Posted on 08/15/2007 8:34:55 AM PDT by vadum
A strange-bedfellows alliance of liberal advocacy groups, labor unions and Big Business is trying to resurrect “HillaryCare.” Major corporations, which will benefit if government picks up the tab for their employees’ health care, are joining with the liberal group Families USA to press for more government health care spending. The Service Employees International Union (SEIU) is in on the deal too. Its partner? Wal-Mart!......
For conservatives, it must seem like HillaryCare Redux. This time, however, the reform effort is different in one important respect. In 1993-1994 many industry groups opposed Hillary Clinton's attempt to nationalize America’s health care system. Now industry groups are tripping over each other in their rush to endorse plans for more government involvement in health care......
The Service Employees International Union (SEIU) has long championed “universal” health care. Recently SEIU launched “Wal-Mart Watch,” an effort to unionize Wal-Mart workers through a nationwide public relations campaign “to reveal the harmful impact of Wal-Mart on American families and demand reform of their business practices.” Alleging that Wal-Mart is exploiting its 1.3 million workers by not giving them adequate health care is a key part of its public relations offensive.
Imagine then the disbelief on all sides when on February 7 SEIU and Wal-Mart appeared together at a Washington, D.C., press conference to announce a new partnership to fix the national health care system. John Podesta, chairman of the liberal Center for American Progress and former White House chief of staff during the Clinton administration, introduced the speakers to the assembled news media. They were SEIU president Andrew Stern and a group of business leaders that included Wal-Mart CEO Lee Scott...
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Great. So, we the taxpayers will foot the health care bills that rightfully should be negotiated between employer and employee? This is nuts.
And the quality of health care for the majority of Americans will decline.
And the hammer-and-sickle rise above the American health care industry.....they do not care that socialism does not work. They only care ABOUT POWER AND MONEY. Thier power, and YOUR money.
Hillary is a socialist..........what do they expect. She just wants all your money so she can take care of you....yeah right. Watch your taxes go through the roof if she gets elected.
There fixed it.
This is how it used to be. Health care is a commodity like anything else.
This is bad news; we should have seen it coming, but it is bad news.
Socialize the costs, privatize the profits.
Did anyone else hear about Hillary getting testy with a question at a health-care meeting she was at recently?
I didn’t hear about it on the MSM, I heard it on Hugh Hewitt’s show. Anyway, the questioner asked her about her wanting “socialized medicine”. And Hillary got very testy and agitated with him and said that it was a “right wing lie” for “15 years” that she wanted socialized medicine. And she said all of the news media there should make a note of that.
And she went on to ask the questioner if he thought that Medicare was socialized medicine. And he said that in some ways it was. And Hillary scolded him that Medicare had saved peoples lives and delivered healthcare very well (which wasn’t the point but that’s what she said). And she invited the questioner to talk to members of her campaign staff if he wanted to be educated!
This could be Hillary’s achilles heel, if we can talk about her being in favor of socialized medicine. Just as she doesn’t want to be called “liberal” but prefers “progressive”, she doesn’t want her health care plan called “socialized medicine”. This would be a good line for the Republican nominee to use in the debates next year, and put Hillary on the defensive about “socialized medicine”.
National health care seems very hard to stop now, with mega corporations like Walmart coming on wanting it too.
They should persuade Target too.
These groups are helping this country dig a deeper grave.
HilleryCare was worse than people knew. It would have told those in the industry where they could live. Those who tried to pay fee for service would be suspended from the program. Sounds like a death sentence. And remember that little white card that Bill and Al held up? What do you suppose it would have done at the supermarket when you tried to buy something that the Directorate of Dietary Compliance did not approve for your diet?
That’s what I’ve been saying for years, that socialized medicine will inevitably happen because the corporations will demand it.
When did the cost stop being negotiated between doctor and patient? Serious question
I guess I am having a problem determining the Republican platform. For as long as I can remember I have thought they stood for business, smaller government and less taxes. Since NAFTA, CAFTA and all the world economics it appears to me that the Republican Party stands for the elite. BUT, I also remember that the Republican Party has always been called the party of elites. Are they really any different or has it only become obvious that business wants ONLY what benefits them — screw the working man.
I have seen posts on FR that say the employer should not have to provide health care. I have seen posts that even want employers to be able to back out of the promises they made to employees regarding pensions. It seems the Republican Party crosses the aisle when it comes to protecting their platform base (business). I am sick of the elite which I think most of the Republican Congree is. I also think spinning of these words such as elite vs Conservative are the continued reason Republicans do so poorly. Do the voters really understand the difference?
When you have the employer wanting to eliminate promised pensions and buy cheap labor forcing the worker out of work or into bankruptcy is it any wonder the general public will become more democratic wanting union ‘protection.’
Somehow the general public needs to be educated and spinning words and changing terms is not the answer. The answer lies in the Party Platform itself.
As best I can deduce that it happened during World War 2 when companies were looking to hire workers and they couldn’t give them money (due to wage controls enacted by FDR and the D’rats in congress), they could entice new workers with a non-taxable health care benefit in lieu of cash.
The socialization of capitalism..
California universal health care proposal fails. If you want arguments against universal health care take a quick read of this from this mornings WSJ Opinion Journal. Amen.
Hell it does not matter who is in office any more. America is doomed. Period. Where is the next Reagan? I know he wasn’t perfect but he was close.
Large corporations have become much like the government...big, over-stocked with bureaucrats, inefficient and out of touch with their customers.
You KNOW, liberals like to complain about “corporate socialism” and “corporate welfare” in the form of subsidies, special tax breaks, and other political gifts.
Us conservatives may not like it either, but it has been something flogged more vigorously by liberals than by us. But guess what? They are right and we too should make a huge stink about corporations getting too much government largesse.
WalMart and company backing HillaryCare is just the latest extension of “corporate welfare” run amuk.
So long as we allow this culture of back scratching to flourish between government and corporations, we will get such odd bedfellows and worse.
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