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N.J. Illegal Immigrant Sanctuary Protects Murderer
Corruption Chronicles ^ | August 15, 2007

Posted on 08/15/2007 10:08:47 AM PDT by Delacon

Dozens of cities across the nation have proudly become illegal immigrant sanctuaries, but officials in one municipality are pondering the status after a Peruvian man with a felony record massacred three college-bound students.

Had authorities in Newark New Jersey contacted federal immigration officials after illegal alien Jose Carranza’s first felony indictment last year he would have been deported and therefore prevented from murdering three innocent youngsters in a schoolyard this month.

Instead Carranza was released on bail, despite being charged with raping a 5-year-old girl and aggravated assault and weapons violations. This week he was charged with the gruesome execution-style murders of three college-bound students, ages 18 to 20.

The shootings evidently pushed Newark authorities to violate their sanctuary policy and contact federal immigration officials who had not been previously informed about Carranza’s crime spree. If they had, Carranza would have placed in removal proceedings after his first felony arrest in October 2006.

But like a growing number of municipalities across the nation, Newark is an official illegal immigrant “Sanctuary City” in which police cannot ask a suspect about immigration status. Other sanctuary havens include Detroit, San Francisco, Seattle, Houston and New Haven.

Some states--such as Alaska, Oregon and New Jersey--actually have blanket sanctuary laws. In fact, New Jersey passed legislation in 2006 that bars law enforcement agencies throughout the Garden State from asking about immigration status.

After the measure blew up in their collective faces with this horrific case, lawmakers are reconsidering the consequences. Now a Newark city councilman wants to sponsor legislation urging local police to call immigration authorities upon arresting undocumented aliens because it “helps law enforcement go after bad people in our community.”

One newspaper editorial suggests that illegal immigrants charged with serious crimes such as rape and murder should not ever be release on bail. It also urges county prosecutors to notify federal immigration officials of adjudicated illegal aliens whether or not they get convicted.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: aliens; illegal; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration; newark
Part of immigration reform should include a ban on sanctuary cities.
1 posted on 08/15/2007 10:08:54 AM PDT by Delacon
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To: Delacon

The Drive-By media are burying this story. The issue would KILL the democretins in 2008.


2 posted on 08/15/2007 10:11:08 AM PDT by rfp1234 (Nothing is better than eternal happiness. A ham sandwich is better than nothing. Therefore...)
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To: Delacon

bttt


3 posted on 08/15/2007 10:12:06 AM PDT by ELS (Vivat Benedictus XVI!)
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To: Delacon
Had authorities in Newark New Jersey contacted federal immigration officials after illegal alien Jose Carranza’s first felony indictment last year he would have been deported and therefore prevented from murdering three innocent youngsters in a schoolyard this month.

Someone in city government should be prsoecuted for turning this animal loose to prey on the citizenry.

And in all the coverage I have seen no mention of motive. Was it a robbery or is he just that depraved?

4 posted on 08/15/2007 10:14:57 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: Delacon
It also urges county prosecutors to notify federal immigration officials of adjudicated illegal aliens whether or not they get convicted.

This is a key point. In many states the County/District/States Attorney is elected and is largely independent of state control. Prosecutors should always report criminal aliens to ICE. In my opinion, not to report them would be a violation of their oath of office. Having said that, it is virtually impossible to get ICE to do anything about illegal criminals who are reported to them

5 posted on 08/15/2007 10:18:07 AM PDT by Prokopton
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To: Delacon
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6 posted on 08/15/2007 10:20:12 AM PDT by rbosque ("To educate a person in mind and not in morals is to educate a menace to society." - Teddy Roosevelt)
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To: rfp1234

>> The Drive-By media are burying this story. The issue would KILL the democretins in 2008.

Absolutely, the media remembers Willie Horton even if most Americans have forgotten.


7 posted on 08/15/2007 10:22:09 AM PDT by vikingd00d
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To: rfp1234
All statements from Newark and Newark police seem to keep repeating “Immigration Status Irrelevant”
8 posted on 08/15/2007 10:22:37 AM PDT by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (RIP Eric Medlen. You will be missed.)
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To: Delacon
I would love to see the survivor sue the city, and anyone else she can that might get their attention.

Sanctuary cities make me as mad as the government who won't do their job and everyone who supports, hires or defends illegal aliens

9 posted on 08/15/2007 10:23:06 AM PDT by YellowRoseofTx
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Irrelevant comment thread
10 posted on 08/15/2007 10:26:22 AM PDT by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (RIP Eric Medlen. You will be missed.)
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To: Delacon

These sanctuary laws are long overdue for a heavy duty challenge all the way to the Supreme Court. They should all be invalidated as unconstitutional. No way is it within the scope of the states’ powers to require their paid employees to aid and abet people in their ongoing violations of federal law.


11 posted on 08/15/2007 10:33:31 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick

McCarthy better watch his back. There are some pretty tough people with little to lose, who don’t find the deaths of these young people to be “irrelevant” at all.


12 posted on 08/15/2007 10:38:52 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Delacon
"Screech! Racism!"
13 posted on 08/15/2007 10:39:11 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: GovernmentShrinker
For starters, Gary McCarthy needs to be replaced.

I recall riots in some of hour cities when police treated criminals none too gently. But no rioting here where four good kids were tortured and murdered. Did I miss the outrage from Rev. JJ?

14 posted on 08/15/2007 10:42:38 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: GovernmentShrinker
I agree. I think this is opening up a lot of eyes in Newark. People who did not care about Illegal Immigration before are now paying attention.

I hope the libs will finally see...

15 posted on 08/15/2007 10:42:44 AM PDT by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (RIP Eric Medlen. You will be missed.)
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To: Delacon
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16 posted on 08/15/2007 10:47:26 AM PDT by rfp1234 (Nothing is better than eternal happiness. A ham sandwich is better than nothing. Therefore...)
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To: Rummyfan
Someone in city government should be prsoecuted for turning this animal loose to prey on the citizenry.

AFAIK, the judges who let him out on bail (darn cheap) have complete immunity for their actions.

17 posted on 08/15/2007 11:03:39 AM PDT by freespirited
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To: rfp1234

which is why the Rs should make it their primary campaign issue.


18 posted on 08/15/2007 11:10:57 AM PDT by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: freespirited
AFAIK, the judges who let him out on bail (darn cheap) have complete immunity for their actions.

I have ask this question before: If a doctor can be sued for a bad decision/ bad outcome why are judges immune from the same rules?

19 posted on 08/15/2007 11:12:58 AM PDT by dearolddad
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To: Delacon

Alaska is a sanctuary state? I wouldn’t expect that from a blood red state all the way up north.


20 posted on 08/15/2007 11:16:46 AM PDT by shekkian
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To: dearolddad

Yes that is right...judges have immunity from prosecution. That needs to change.

If cops can be prosecuted and jailed for their actions, then judges should be subject to the same rules and laws.


21 posted on 08/15/2007 11:26:43 AM PDT by UCFRoadWarrior (FantasyCollegeBlitz.com)
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To: Delacon
They are NOT immigrants. Immigrants come in the front door and are here legallY. This article is about illegal ALIENS

N.J. Illegal Immigrant Alien Sanctuary Protects Murderer Corruption Chronicles ^ | August 15, 2007 Posted on 08/15/2007 1:08:47 PM EDT by Delacon Dozens of cities across the nation have proudly become illegal immigrant alien sanctuaries, but officials in one municipality are pondering the status after a Peruvian man with a felony record massacred three college-bound students. Had authorities in Newark New Jersey contacted federal immigration officials after illegal alien Jose Carranza’s first felony indictment last year he would have been deported and therefore prevented from murdering three innocent youngsters in a schoolyard this month. Instead Carranza was released on bail, despite being charged with raping a 5-year-old girl and aggravated assault and weapons violations. This week he was charged with the gruesome execution-style murders of three college-bound students, ages 18 to 20. The shootings evidently pushed Newark authorities to violate their sanctuary policy and contact federal immigration officials who had not been previously informed about Carranza’s crime spree. If they had, Carranza would have placed in removal proceedings after his first felony arrest in October 2006. But like a growing number of municipalities across the nation, Newark is an official illegal immigrant alien “Sanctuary City” in which police cannot ask a suspect about immigration alien status. Other sanctuary havens include Detroit, San Francisco, Seattle, Houston and New Haven. Some states--such as Alaska, Oregon and New Jersey--actually have blanket sanctuary laws. In fact, New Jersey passed legislation in 2006 that bars law enforcement agencies throughout the Garden State from asking about immigration alien status. After the measure blew up in their collective faces with this horrific case, lawmakers are reconsidering the consequences. Now a Newark city councilman wants to sponsor legislation urging local police to call immigration authorities upon arresting undocumented aliens (in this case, "aliens" is redundant) because it “helps law enforcement go after bad people in our community.” One newspaper editorial suggests that illegal immigrants aliens charged with serious crimes such as rape and murder should not ever be release on bail. It also urges county prosecutors to notify federal immigration officials of adjudicated illegal aliens whether or not they get convicted.

22 posted on 08/15/2007 11:40:33 AM PDT by Frwy (Proud member of the vast right wing conspiracy.)
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To: Delacon
Depite the fact that the suspect was in the country illegally, and could have been deported before committing these murders after being suspected of raping a 5-year old, Jon Corzine, in all of his infinite gubernatorial wisdom has decided that the tool used to commit the crime is the real problem http://wcbstv.com/topstories/local_story_227134244.html
23 posted on 08/15/2007 11:46:56 AM PDT by American Infidel (It's pronounced 'ASK' not 'AXE'. It's a 3 letter word. How difficult can it be?)
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To: rfp1234

“The issue would KILL the democretins in 2008.”

And any R’s planning to compromise by giving amnesty to ‘good’ illegal aliens.


24 posted on 08/15/2007 11:53:58 AM PDT by Kimberly GG (NO MORE CFRers - DUNCAN HUNTER '08)
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To: Delacon

Illegals are just murdering the people American criminals won’t murder.


25 posted on 08/15/2007 11:54:41 AM PDT by John Semmens
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick

Geraldo was saying the same thing on O’Reilly last night. The guy’s a lawyer and their illegal status doesn’t seem to bother him. Incredible!


26 posted on 08/15/2007 12:43:40 PM PDT by Marathoner 244
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To: YellowRoseofTx; GovernmentShrinker
Sanctuary laws are long overdue for a heavy duty challenge all the way to the Supreme Court. They should be invalidated as unconstitutional............... No way is it within the scope of the states’ powers to require paid government employees to aid and abet people in their ongoing violations of federal law.

The survivor and the bereaved families must demand prosecution for every public official who failed them. Public employees on the government payroll failure to perform is a felony. As follows:

Public employees on the government payroll, and their co-conspirators, may have committed actionable offenses under Penal Law .135.60 COERCION IN THE SECOND DEGREE (a Class A misdemeanor).

PENAL LAW 135.60 (Committed on or after September 1, 1967) is Coercion in the Second Degree.

When an individual uses or abuses his/her position as a public servant by performing some act within or related to his or her official duties, or by failing or refusing to perform an official duty, in such manner as to affect some person adversely.

Perform any (other) act which would not in itself materially benefit the actor but which is calculated to harm another person materially with respect to his or her health, safety, business, calling, career, financial condition, reputation or personal relationships.

================================

The term(s), ("crime"), ("public servant") used in this definition has its own special meaning in our law.

PUBLIC SERVANT means any public officer or employee of the state or of any political subdivision thereof or of any governmental instrumentality within the state, or any person exercising the functions of any such public officer or employee.

The term public servant includes a person who has been elected or designated to become a public servant.

27 posted on 08/15/2007 1:53:29 PM PDT by Liz (It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong. Voltaire)
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To: Delacon
Part of immigration reform should include a ban on sanctuary cities.

Along with felony criminal penalties for officials that violate that ban.

28 posted on 08/15/2007 2:42:18 PM PDT by untrained skeptic
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To: Delacon

I live in South Jersey. The police refuse to prosecute illegals for minor offenses that they prosecute citizens for. In the middle of filling out paperwork for a report, if they discover the suspect is hispanic, they pack up and leave.


29 posted on 08/15/2007 2:51:05 PM PDT by LilAngel (No blood for quislings)
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30 posted on 08/15/2007 3:20:18 PM PDT by gubamyster
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To: untrained skeptic; Delacon

Actually, in the defeated Bush immigration bill, there was a provision (I don’t recall who added it) to prohibit regional authorities from passing laws conflicting with Federal law in this area and to remove Federal benefits from cities or other jurisdictions that refused to enforce Federal immigration laws.


31 posted on 08/15/2007 3:23:03 PM PDT by livius
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To: livius

Having a law is one thing. Enforcing it is quite another.


32 posted on 08/15/2007 3:28:57 PM PDT by Fresh Wind
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To: Delacon

If only one child is saved, stopping illegals would be worth it.


33 posted on 08/15/2007 3:29:02 PM PDT by School of Rational Thought (Your home for pithy disquistion)
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To: Delacon
My question is "Why isn't the blood of those murdered students on the hands of the NEW JERSEY LEGISLATURE???"
34 posted on 08/15/2007 3:34:28 PM PDT by djf (America welcomes immigrants! Sadly, America welcomes crimmigrants even more...)
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To: Fresh Wind

Nobody can enforce any law unless the very first people who come into contact with a criminal take him into custody and then follow the legal procedures after that. The problem is that the police are usually (certainly, in the case of NJ) prevented from either enquiring about immigration status or notifying the federal authorities of it, so therefore this stuff never even gets to the enforcement phase.

The bill before Congress actually did include a provision to punish states and localities that forbade their employees - law enforcement, medical, welfare, driver’s license, etc. - to cooperate with Federal law. The bill (which I thought was lousy on other grounds) didn’t get passed, but this is something that should be part of any other federal efforts.

I love the Mayor of Newark going around emoting when his very own system forbade this guy’s being reported in the first place - and a local judge knowingly gave the killer bail.


35 posted on 08/15/2007 3:34:36 PM PDT by livius
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To: dearolddad
I have ask this question before: If a doctor can be sued for a bad decision/ bad outcome why are judges immune from the same rules?

Probably for the same reason that you can't sue members of Congress for anything they say on the House or Senate Floor.

Most legislators are lawyers by training. Passing laws that immunize their own kind (such as judges and members of Congress) just comes naturally. If most doctors also had law degrees, they could probably get in on the deal too.

Of course if you ask a law professor, you will probably get a philosophical/theoretical argument for the immunity. But as you point out, the explanations don't make much sense. If doctors are liable for their mistakes, it sure seems odd that ordinary people have to pay handily for the appeals process when a trial court judge has erred.

36 posted on 08/15/2007 4:17:55 PM PDT by freespirited
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To: Rummyfan

The victim who survived, it was supposedly a rape attempt. I have not seen this mentioned in the MSM, and she is under police protection. The girl has a gunshot wound to the head.


37 posted on 08/15/2007 5:20:27 PM PDT by Andy'smom
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To: rfp1234
I agree.

They (the MSM) are purposely ignoring this, because it subverts their whole strategy of turning our nation into an anything goes Third World cesspool with no more borders and no more laws.

As I have said, the GOP candidates should start using this issue like Willie Horton and get those TV and radio spots up and running.

38 posted on 08/15/2007 5:34:51 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Visit this thread 1-hour from now. In that time, an average of 416.6 more ILLEGALS will be in the US)
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To: Delacon
Part of immigration reform should include a ban on sanctuary cities.

If the two-bit mayors of these sanctuary cities found out they wouldn't get any more federal funding for their illegal alien-infested havens, they would change their tunes in a heartbeat.

39 posted on 08/15/2007 6:38:07 PM PDT by janetgreen
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To: Delacon; gubamyster

They should at least hold the illegals to the same standards that Americans are punished for....they don’t even do that!


40 posted on 08/15/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by TheLion (How about "Comprehensive Immigration Enforcement," for a change)
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To: janetgreen

Bush could do that in a heart beat....but will he?


41 posted on 08/15/2007 6:43:15 PM PDT by TheLion (How about "Comprehensive Immigration Enforcement," for a change)
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To: Delacon

42 posted on 08/16/2007 6:13:58 AM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

“As I have said, the GOP candidates should start using this issue like Willie Horton and get those TV and radio spots up and running.”

Funny you should mention that...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1882529/posts


43 posted on 08/17/2007 6:38:45 AM PDT by Delacon
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

And if NJ’s officials can’t be sued, how about a US taxpayer lawsuit to deprive them of federal funds for violating the 1996 Illegal Immigration Responsibility Act of 1996.


44 posted on 08/17/2007 6:41:17 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: mewzilla

That’s the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigration Responsibilty Act of 1996. IIRIRA.


45 posted on 08/17/2007 6:42:31 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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