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Rove Incident Causes Editor to Declare: Keep Political Views to Yourself
Editor & Publisher ^ | August 15, 2007 | Staff

Posted on 08/15/2007 12:09:43 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

No matter what you think of Karl Rove -- or anyone else in politics -- please keep it to yourself, or at least falrly quiet. That was the message in a note sent to staffers at the Seattle Times by Executive Editor Dave Boardman after what he called "an awkward moment at yesterday's news meeting."

What happened? According to Boardman in the latest email installment of what he calls "Dave's Raves" it was this: "When word came in of Karl Rove's resignation, several people in the meeting started cheering. That sort of expression is simply not appropriate for a newsroom....As we head into a major political year, now's a good time to remember: Please keep your personal politics to yourself."

The incident was described in a blog by chief political reporter David Postman. He comments: "I wasn't there, but I've talked to several people who were. It was only a couple of people who cheered and they, thankfully, are not among the people who get a say in news play. But obviously news staff shouldn't be cheering or jeering the day's news, particularly as Boardman points out, 'when we have an outside guest in the room.'

"Jokes get made in newsrooms, of course — even what you would call gallows humor. And Boardman wrote that he was 'all for equal-opportunity joking at both parties' expense.' But he was clearly ticked off by yesterday's display."


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Washington
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No, there's no left-wing media bias, no Siree!
1 posted on 08/15/2007 12:09:45 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Many reporters are angry, ugly children.

I used to be one - but I wasn’t ugly. :)


2 posted on 08/15/2007 12:12:25 PM PDT by RexBeach ("Americans never quit." Douglas MacArthur)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
But obviously news staff shouldn't be cheering or jeering the day's news, particularly as Boardman points out, 'when we have an outside guest in the room.'

Does that mean the big-three networks and CNN will leave their DNC cheerleader skirts and pom-poms home on election night in 2008? That would be a refreshing change.

3 posted on 08/15/2007 12:14:07 PM PDT by VRWCmember (Fred Thompson 2008! Taking America Back for Conservatives!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Please keep your personal politics to yourself.

ROFLOL!

Oh the hypocrisy of the Legacy Media truly knows no bounds.

4 posted on 08/15/2007 12:14:23 PM PDT by TChris (The Republican Party is merely the Democrat Party's "away" jersey - Vox Day)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well, they’re claiming that the cheering did not involve anyone involved in news decisions (so what were they doing in a meeting of newsroom staff?), but yesterday’s Seattle Times op-ed page contained no less than three anti-Rove pieces - an editorial by the Times and columns by E.J. Dionne and Eugene Robinson. So the cheerers must have thought they could get away with it, given the atmosphere in the newsroom.


5 posted on 08/15/2007 12:16:16 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle ("Above all, shake your bum at Burton.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"Please keep your personal politics to yourself."

Needs a rewrite:

"Please keep your personal politics subtly buried in the articles you write."

6 posted on 08/15/2007 12:16:52 PM PDT by dirtboy (Impeach Chertoff and Gonzales. We can't wait until 2009 for them to be gone.)
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To: VRWCmember

I remember on election night 2000 when they mistakenly declared Gore the winner, the cameras caught Paula Zahn, then with Fox News, in a big cheer.


7 posted on 08/15/2007 12:17:58 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle ("Above all, shake your bum at Burton.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The insane left truly view Rove as the anti-christ, though when pushed on why they can never give you a solid reason.... Newspapers are by and large leftist bastions so nothing overly suprising to hear this happened.


8 posted on 08/15/2007 12:18:30 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There are socially inept people in every group. One of the long term mover/shakers with a lot of personal staff(brought in about 30-40% of the biz) in my company was canned by the President. There was a very somber staff meeting right after it happened about how to re-group from this. At the end of the meeting one of the competing mover/shakers, said “great, let’s have a party”.


9 posted on 08/15/2007 12:19:48 PM PDT by Rb ver. 2.0 (Reunite Gondwanaland!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

How tolerant, diverse and inclusive of the unbiased press.


10 posted on 08/15/2007 12:20:05 PM PDT by sappy
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To: Steve_Seattle
I remember on election night 2000 when they mistakenly declared Gore the winner,

That BS call before the polls were closed in the Florida panhandle cost W at least 5000 votes from people who heard the news and got out of line without bothering to vote or turned their cars around and chose not to go to the polls. If not for that BS, Florida would not have been close enough to even talk about a recount.

11 posted on 08/15/2007 12:20:10 PM PDT by VRWCmember (Fred Thompson 2008! Taking America Back for Conservatives!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“In the meeting room, with an “outsider” present, keep you politics to yourself. When you are writing your lies, er, articles, let it fly!!”


12 posted on 08/15/2007 12:20:25 PM PDT by subterfuge (Today, Tolerance =greatest virtue;Hypocrisy=worst character defect; Discrimination =worst atrocity)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
That’s alright, go ahead and cheer, I think most of us understand, after all it’s Seattle. There was also cheering when O. J. Simpson got acquitted. We understand.
13 posted on 08/15/2007 12:20:34 PM PDT by CarryingOn (Spread the message every day, like your life depended on it.)
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To: Steve_Seattle
One of the reasons why I will never pay for the Seattle Times again. The rural outlying papers not quite so bad. Like the Everett Herald or the Tacoma News Tribune.
Nothing but a moonbat rag...
14 posted on 08/15/2007 12:20:38 PM PDT by Chronic (Freedom isn't Free \m/ 0(-_-)0 \m/)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“In the meeting room, with an “outsider” present, keep your politics to yourself. When you are writing your lies, er, articles, let it fly!!”


15 posted on 08/15/2007 12:20:47 PM PDT by subterfuge (Today, Tolerance =greatest virtue;Hypocrisy=worst character defect; Discrimination =worst atrocity)
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To: All

This POS “newspaper” cannot go out of business fast enough...right up there with NYT and LAT....liberal garbage can


16 posted on 08/15/2007 12:20:47 PM PDT by Alright_on_the_LeftCoast
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To: RexBeach

And Homo’s.


17 posted on 08/15/2007 12:20:57 PM PDT by boomop1 (there you go again)
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To: Steve_Seattle

And Dan Rather looked like he was going to have a breakdown every time he had to announce another state had gone for W. When they got around to announcing that W had won both Tennessee and Arkansas, Rather was visibly pissed off and defiantly bitter about it.


18 posted on 08/15/2007 12:21:58 PM PDT by VRWCmember (Fred Thompson 2008! Taking America Back for Conservatives!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
thankfully, are not among the people who get a say in news play.

No, they are just the reporters and they have no say where their biased articles get placed.

19 posted on 08/15/2007 12:23:07 PM PDT by Raycpa
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To: HamiltonJay
The insane left truly view Rove as the anti-christ, though when pushed on why they can never give you a solid reason

I always get a one word "explanation."

"HALIBURTON!!!"

20 posted on 08/15/2007 12:23:29 PM PDT by subterfuge (Today, Tolerance =greatest virtue;Hypocrisy=worst character defect; Discrimination =worst atrocity)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
When word came in of Karl Rove's resignation, several (news)people in the meeting started cheering.

They should be crying. Rove is on the loose to help other Republican Candidates.

Rove you Magnificent B*STARD

21 posted on 08/15/2007 12:24:17 PM PDT by sr4402
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To: HamiltonJay

Not too long ago I was given some sage advice for leading a more peaceful life.”Lose the news”.


22 posted on 08/15/2007 12:24:58 PM PDT by ardara
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Oh yes, one question. For those who did not cheer, were they put on a special watch list?


23 posted on 08/15/2007 12:25:05 PM PDT by Raycpa
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To: subterfuge

One thing that makes me happy in looking back at the 2000 election is that in those BIG 3 networks: RATHER, BROKAW, and JENNINGS are NO LONGER there (Jennings has passed away in fact).


24 posted on 08/15/2007 12:27:38 PM PDT by princess leah
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Bastards, liars, posers.

These Dim hacks should be fired.


25 posted on 08/15/2007 12:29:59 PM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
And Boardman wrote that he was 'all for equal-opportunity joking at both parties' expense.'

Oh, but not most newsrooms, which display overt DNC partisanship like this one in Seattle.

26 posted on 08/15/2007 12:29:59 PM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Rush asked Karl about this today:

Rush Interviews Karl Rove
27 posted on 08/15/2007 12:30:14 PM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: Chronic

I have to control my opinions about the Times because my sister works there and so did her husband before he retired. They’re good people but blissfully unaware of their political bias. For the sake of family unity, I never broach the subject at family gatherings.


28 posted on 08/15/2007 12:30:22 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle ("Above all, shake your bum at Burton.")
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To: ardara

I dumped cable a long time ago.... news is primary through places like this and I do subscribe to the local newspaper, and read it.... (I know I’m one of the few under 50 who still does this)....

But, I know the local paper is liberal in its bent, hugely. So I still read it, and do keep up on a lot of stuff, but I also recognized editorialization vs reporting.


29 posted on 08/15/2007 12:30:35 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He is leaving the Whitehouse and is really getting in Hillary’s cage. This election is getting to be “SO” fun!!!!!!........


30 posted on 08/15/2007 12:33:14 PM PDT by GitmoSailor (AZ Cold War Vet===Fairness Doctrine for TV First!!!!!.....I'Am With Fred)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
That sort of expression is simply not appropriate for a newsroom...

But only hiring deranged leftists is.

31 posted on 08/15/2007 12:35:47 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Jokes not only get made in newsrooms, but also in ERs and clinics, out of patient ear-shot, of course!

Guess this is how you handle things when you’re a denizen of the unbalanced MSM and you’ve had little to cheer about since the 2006 elections.


32 posted on 08/15/2007 12:36:02 PM PDT by Theresawithanh (FRED!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
No matter what you think of Karl Rove -- or anyone else in politics -- please keep it to yourself, or at least falrly quiet.

"Editor and Publisher" is missing its editor.

33 posted on 08/15/2007 12:36:18 PM PDT by xjcsa (Hillary Clinton is nothing more than Karl Marx with huge calves.)
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To: HamiltonJay
"The insane left truly view Rove as the anti-christ, though when pushed on why they can never give you a solid reason...."

I noticed that when reading the Times anti-Rove editorial yesterday. They said he played a role in the Plame affair, but he was never charged with a crime, much less convicted of one. And they think he might have had something to do with the U.S. attorney firings, but there's no evidence he did. And Bush failed to pass social security reform, and that's somehow Rove's fault. And the Iraq war is somehow Rove's fault, although everything I've ever read from a White House insider said it was Bush's decision. And they said his "fingerprints" were all over the Bush administration, without ever saying anything specific about what those finger prints had touched.

So that's basically the case against Rove - he worked for Bush, he wasn't convicted of a crime, and he might have had to do something with the U.S. attorney firings. What an indictment! lol
34 posted on 08/15/2007 12:38:24 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle ("Above all, shake your bum at Burton.")
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To: Steve_Seattle

They thought he was the anti-christ before any of the current “scandals” were even launched.... I can remember dealing with psycho leftist bashing him like he was hitler in 03.... They just despise him frankly because he’s a damned effective strategist who’s beaten them time and again, best I can tell.


35 posted on 08/15/2007 12:42:14 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
“But obviously news staff shouldn’t be cheering or jeering the day’s news, particularly as Boardman points out, ‘when we have an outside guest in the room.”

Boardman doesn’t think that the obvious bias is the problem — the only problem is that an outsider was allowed to witness it.

36 posted on 08/15/2007 12:50:46 PM PDT by vetsvette (Bring Him Back)
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To: HamiltonJay

You are right - they hated Rove before any of the stuff happened that they’re now trotting out as reasons to criticize him. The E.J. Dionne piece blamed Rove for the spirit of “divisiveness” in the country. What BS. Remember how during the 2000 campaign - before Bush was even elected - the Dems were blaming Bush for the economic downturn, saying he was “talking down the economy”? And I clearly recall - about two weeks after Bush took office - the Dems were already running anti-Bush television ads, accusing him of poisoning the water. This is a fact. Yet Dionne blames Bush and Rove for the divisiveness and partisanship.


37 posted on 08/15/2007 12:52:01 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle ("Above all, shake your bum at Burton.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"When word came in of Karl Rove's resignation, several people in the meeting started cheering. That sort of expression is simply not appropriate for a newsroom....

Quite the contrary, sir. It is MOST appropriate for the newsroom to openly demonstrate its biased, one sided point of view, thus revealing the reporters' status as mere cheerleaders for liberal democrats...........Oh, now I see why the editor thought the outburst was inappropriate. Nevermind.

38 posted on 08/15/2007 12:52:24 PM PDT by San Jacinto
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To: VRWCmember
True, and to top it off, the left wing true-believers are still complaining about the call FoxNews made for Bush hours after the polls closed; ostensibly because it biased the recount process.

Hypocrisy on steroids.

39 posted on 08/15/2007 1:02:20 PM PDT by AndyTheBear (Disastrous social experimentation is the opiate of elitist snobs.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Nothing surprises me coming out of Seattle, the 2nd most leftist liberal city in the US.


40 posted on 08/15/2007 1:03:40 PM PDT by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Liberals catching liberals acting like liberals. Amazin’.


41 posted on 08/15/2007 1:05:35 PM PDT by gipper81
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
A couple of things on the Times - when I lived in Seattle I met a couple of their employees now and then at lunch. Both stoutly denied an institutional bias, but one qualified that as "I'm a political independent but the Republicans are just so stupid..." Hmm...little NPR overdose there, I'm thinking.

Cartoonist David Horsey has been on the editorial board for some time now. He draws an occasionally amusing 'toon but I have never really forgiven him for making a stirring defense of why the Times chose to censor the Danish Mohammed cartoons - "sensitivity" dontcha know - and in the middle of the controversy launched a lengthy written diatribe concerning the abuse of women. No, not by the guys who wrap them in burkas, cut off their genitalia, deny them schooling and other basic human rights, and were threatening to murder anyone who opposed their will in the matter of the cartoons, oh, my no - his target was the stereotypical t-shirt clad white male. Dave, if you're reading this, you're a coward and a hypocrite. IMHO.

That said, I must be fair enough to point out that the Seattle Times endorsed Bush in 2000. Even they couldn't stand the idea of four or even eight years of Algore.

42 posted on 08/15/2007 1:14:09 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: HamiltonJay

The insane left wanted Rove frog marched out of the White house.


43 posted on 08/15/2007 1:19:49 PM PDT by BARLF
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To: Steve_Seattle
" the cameras caught Paula Zahn, then with Fox News, in a big cheer."

I remember Brit Hume announcing Gore was leading in some state and you could hear Paula say "yessss" off camera. So I guess she was doing this sort of thing the whole night. I was so appalled by her behavior that I left FOX and surfed around not watching any particular channel. Paula Zahn, professional journalist? Yea, sure.

44 posted on 08/15/2007 1:24:55 PM PDT by CremeSaver
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To: BARLF

The first thing Rove did——Guest on Rush”s!!!!!!....


45 posted on 08/15/2007 1:26:34 PM PDT by GitmoSailor (AZ Cold War Vet===Fairness Doctrine for TV First!!!!!.....I'Am With Fred)
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To: dirtboy

>>>”Please keep your personal politics subtly buried in the articles you write.” <<<<

If only they would go back to subtly burying their biases. The press now overtly displays their biases. As Rush says, the MSM has chosen sides. There is no attempt to cover it up even though they still have the audacity to deny their prejudices.


46 posted on 08/15/2007 1:30:12 PM PDT by upsdriver (DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRESIDENT!!!!)
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To: GitmoSailor

Good for Rush and Rove. Is there a transcript somewhere?


47 posted on 08/15/2007 1:32:20 PM PDT by BARLF
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To: Steve_Seattle

“I never broach the subject at family gatherings.”
Ha! You’re lucky! My brother-in-law is a muslim!


48 posted on 08/15/2007 1:39:48 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: BARLF

It is on his Website!!!!......I think we will be hearing more from Rove next month!!!!!.....You can take that to the bank, the big one!!!!!!.....


49 posted on 08/15/2007 1:44:56 PM PDT by GitmoSailor (AZ Cold War Vet===Fairness Doctrine for TV First!!!!!.....I'Am With Fred)
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To: Steve_Seattle

It was Bernard Shaw and Judy or Paula crying on CNN when Clinton was impeached by the house.


50 posted on 08/15/2007 1:48:08 PM PDT by pierstroll
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