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Anger boils over against Iraq war(Portland,Or.)
The Oregonian ^ | August 15, 2007 | JEFF MAPES

Posted on 08/15/2007 2:55:13 PM PDT by crazyhorse691

Town hall meeting - Sen. Ron Wyden takes heat for Congress not bringing the troops home

Although few senators can match U.S. Sen. Ron Wyden's long record opposing the war in Iraq, it didn't protect him from being thoroughly roasted Tuesday by angry anti-war activists at a town hall meeting in Portland.

The noontime event at Portland State University attracted more than 300 people, many of whom charged that the Oregon Democrat hasn't done enough to end the war. The senator was also repeatedly verbally flayed for not supporting the impeachment of President Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney.

"Do you have any idea how angry we are at the Democrats?" Joe Walsh, a Vietnam War veteran from Portland, asked Wyden as many in the crowd loudly cheered and applauded. Walsh noted that the death toll continues to rise while the Democratic majority in Congress fails to cut off money for the war. "How do you sleep at night?" he asked.

Wyden repeatedly cited his own record of opposition to the war, starting in 2002 when he was one of 23 senators to vote against authorizing the president to use force against Iraq. And he noted he was one of just 14 senators who voted against a bill to finance the troops this May after Bush vetoed an earlier funding measure that called for a troop withdrawal.

"Every single day I try to find additional ways to generate support for our cause of a timely, safe withdrawal" of the troops, said Wyden. "I try every single day to find another way to push that rock up the hill."

The meeting was dominated by a wide variety of anti-war groups -- from Military Families Speak Out to the Peace Action Committee of the First Unitarian Church -- that have begun to turn on the new Democratic leadership of Congress as being insufficiently tough enough in taking on the Bush administration. While polls show most Americans oppose the war, many Democratic lawmakers have worried that abruptly cutting off military funding would expose them to charges that they are endangering the safety of the troops in a war zone.

When Wyden talked about how the Bush administration had gone "way over the line" in taking the country into the war, several interrupted him by shouting, "Criminals!"

The senator also received a skeptical reaction when he argued that trying to impeach the president and vice president would only divert Congress from other work and fail to gain enough votes anyway. And when Wyden insisted that Iran was responsible for supplying some of the roadside bombs that have killed many U.S. troops, several people booed.

"You've been listening to Cheney too much," one woman shouted.

No one spoke up in favor of the administration's policy in Iraq.

Some speakers did praise Wyden for being a consistent critic of the war and asked what they could do to build support in Congress for cutting off money. Wyden said he thought pressure would build to withdraw the troops after Gen. David Petraeus, the top U.S. commander in Iraq, delivers his report on the war in mid-September.

Wyden said he doubts Petraeus will be able to show much progress toward a stable government that is unifying the country, and he said there should be a "national mobilization" of anti-war critics to put pressure on Congress.

After his town hall, Wyden met privately with 10 of the anti-war activists and they talked more about how to bring pressure on Congress, according to Wyden's chief of staff, Josh Kardon.

Kardon said he thought many activists were so angered by the war that they were failing to realize how few members of Congress are willing to simply cut off military funding.

Wyden "gets up every day trying to end the war," Kardon said. "But he can't change the law of physics."

Still, several activists said they thought Wyden should do more to pressure Congress and the administration to end the war, including raising the threat of impeachment.

"What Bush and Cheney have done is criminal, and they should be prosecuted," said Marlene Schaffer, who has a son, daughter and husband serving in Iraq. When asked after the meeting if she was satisfied with Wyden's explanations, she said: "I think it's more lip service."

Jeff Mapes: 503-221-8209; jeffmapes@news.oregonian.com


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; US: Oregon; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: antiamericanmovement; cutandruncrowd; defeatocrats; democraticparty; fifthcolumnists; iraqwar; lefties; liberalism; moonbats; neocoms; oregon; portland; ronwyden; treasonchic
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They descended on Wyden like a flock of starving magpies. Still can't get over the ladys "support" of her family fighting in Iraq(I have my doubts about her claims of 3 family members being in Iraq). Too many Rabid Moonbats in an enclosed space has to be bad for the health.
1 posted on 08/15/2007 2:55:20 PM PDT by crazyhorse691
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To: crazyhorse691

This may help put into perspective how angry people should really be and for what.
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http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d07342t.pdf
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Try not to have too many nightmares while your sleeping tonight......:)


2 posted on 08/15/2007 2:59:45 PM PDT by PEACE ENFORCER (One needs to have the capability of using Deadly Force at ANY moment.......:))
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To: crazyhorse691

couldn’t happen to a nicer party :)


3 posted on 08/15/2007 3:00:11 PM PDT by BerniesFriend
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To: crazyhorse691

Uh oh, the pacifists are on the warpath!


4 posted on 08/15/2007 3:00:48 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: crazyhorse691
The anti-war maggots will always have the advantage in situations like this. Since most of them are shiftless bums who don’t have jobs (or lives), they can pack meetings with throngs of smelly hippies at a moment’s notice.

It's hard to compete with that when you have a job and a life.
5 posted on 08/15/2007 3:00:48 PM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Ron Paul put the cuckoo in my Cocoa Puffs)
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To: crazyhorse691

If you think the moonbats are nuts now wait until after Petraeus’ report.


6 posted on 08/15/2007 3:00:50 PM PDT by mainepatsfan
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To: crazyhorse691

I have my doubts about her claims of 3 family members being in Iraq


I was incorrect...she actually does.
http://www.mfso.org/article.php?id=1038


7 posted on 08/15/2007 3:01:33 PM PDT by crazyhorse691 (The faithful will keep their heads down, their powder dry and hammer at the enemies flanks.)
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To: crazyhorse691

Big let down coming for the Anti American Left coming up.

Does not matter if you elect Hillary in 2008. The second it no longer becomes an issue to beat President Bush over the head with, these same Democrats are magically going to discover why we need to stay in Iraq. It is shaping up to be the big Clinton betrayal for 2008. The same way Bill Clinton did not intend to pursue a “Middle Class Tax cut” in 1992, Hillary knows she will not be able to cut and run from Iraq.

One can argue that we should not be so dependent on ME oil, what cannot be argued is we are depended on it. Like it or not, the free flow of oil from that part of the world is a vital US National Security Interest. Our economic well-being, and thus our national security, depends on it.

Iraq sits on anywhere (depending on whose figures you use) from the second largest, to the fifth largest, oil reserves in the world. No US Administration is going to be able to walk away from Iraq. That is just reality.


8 posted on 08/15/2007 3:02:51 PM PDT by MNJohnnie ("Todays (military's) task is three dimensional chess in the dark". General Rick Lynch in Baghdad)
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To: crazyhorse691
I LOVE it when Democrats get roasted by the moonbats.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

9 posted on 08/15/2007 3:02:58 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: crazyhorse691
"...thoroughly roasted Tuesday by angry anti-war activists..."

If only it were not figuratively...

10 posted on 08/15/2007 3:03:02 PM PDT by verity (Muhammed and Harry Reid are Dirt Bags)
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To: crazyhorse691
"I try every single day to find another way to push that rock up the hill."

It must be getting pretty heavy these days.

11 posted on 08/15/2007 3:03:02 PM PDT by mainepatsfan
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To: verity

Sadly Al Qaeda does it literally.


12 posted on 08/15/2007 3:04:01 PM PDT by mainepatsfan
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To: MNJohnnie

If only a moonbat third party candidate would emerge.


13 posted on 08/15/2007 3:05:04 PM PDT by mainepatsfan
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To: crazyhorse691
But I notice all of them, her family, volunteered and continue to do so.

That should tell her something. STFU.

Or does she like the perks & pay but not the work.

The lady needs to move on and let her family get on with the heavy lifting.

14 posted on 08/15/2007 3:07:27 PM PDT by PeteB570 (Guns, what real men want for Christmas)
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To: mainepatsfan
It is hard to admit that such traitors really exist in this great country.
They have no problems using the freedoms that our military has earned them over the last 200+ years. Hypocrisy abounds as they constantly display that they don't care if the rest of the world enjoys any of the freedoms that they so easily exploit.
15 posted on 08/15/2007 3:11:13 PM PDT by oldenuff2no (My dad ldft for Europe in)
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To: crazyhorse691
The good Americans of Portland

Warning -- graphic photo
16 posted on 08/15/2007 3:12:26 PM PDT by Beckwith (dhimmicrats and the liberal media have .chosen sides -- Islamofascism)
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To: crazyhorse691
Just about every single US Senator can draw a crowd far larger than 300 people if he's going to stand up, talk legislative initiatives, and answer questions.

This guy got 300.

The Democrats on the moonbat left are definitely doomed.

17 posted on 08/15/2007 3:12:45 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: oldenuff2no

They define peace as the absence of conflict. I thank God these nuts weren’t around during WWII.


18 posted on 08/15/2007 3:15:22 PM PDT by mainepatsfan
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To: crazyhorse691

all of the burned out hippies

in california have moved to

oregon.


19 posted on 08/15/2007 3:16:50 PM PDT by ken21 (28 yrs + 2 families = banana republic junta. si.)
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To: crazyhorse691

—The Oregonian ^ | August 15, 2007 | JEFF MAPES—

Related to Mary Mapes of RaTHergate infamy?


20 posted on 08/15/2007 3:19:03 PM PDT by rfp1234 (Nothing is better than eternal happiness. A ham sandwich is better than nothing. Therefore...)
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To: crazyhorse691
“What Bush and Cheney have done is criminal, and they should be prosecuted,” said Marlene Schaffer, who has a son, daughter and husband serving in Iraq.


Good grief. In a family full of hero’s, I guess someone had to be a complete zero. Way to go mom.

21 posted on 08/15/2007 3:19:04 PM PDT by mad puppy (I'd rather live a day on my feet than a year on my knees)
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To: crazyhorse691

You know what makes me laugh, is the FReepers who complained about the “cut-and-run” conservatives (which is a lie, because many still voted for Republicans) supposedly staying home and giving Congress to the Dems. “Now the Rats will cut off funding and pull the troops out,” they whined.


22 posted on 08/15/2007 3:22:21 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: mad puppy
from Military Families Speak Out to the Peace Action Committee of the First Unitarian Church

MFSO and PACFUC ???????!!!!!!!!

Do these guys think 1-second before naming their groups?

23 posted on 08/15/2007 3:23:34 PM PDT by RedQuill
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To: crazyhorse691

No oil for pacifists!


24 posted on 08/15/2007 3:27:18 PM PDT by squidly
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To: mad puppy
Good grief. In a family full of hero’s, I guess someone had to be a complete zero. Way to go mom.

So she shouldn't be upset whatsoever a good part of her immediate family is over there. Rather she should just be proud and be at the front of the flag wavers line. Gotcha. (Note I don't agree with the lady, I don't disagree with the lady. Her opinion probably has a lot of feeling behind it. And BTW it's a family full of heroes, not family full of hero's)

It doesn't really matter how long US Armed Forces are over there anyway. The end result will still be the same as it was everytime in history before.

25 posted on 08/15/2007 3:27:31 PM PDT by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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To: mainepatsfan

I agree. It is time for a “Conservatives for Nader” campaign.


26 posted on 08/15/2007 3:28:09 PM PDT by Jacquerie (The New Republic - Every bit as reputable as CBS News.)
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To: crazyhorse691

Democrats: Fighting against America at home so the enemy does not have to.


27 posted on 08/15/2007 3:29:56 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Jacquerie

I imagine that the Clinton crime family has already let it be known what will happen to anyone who even thinks about running as a third party candidate for the Kooks.


28 posted on 08/15/2007 3:30:53 PM PDT by mainepatsfan
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To: ken21
all of the burned out hippies in california have moved to oregon.

Great news for California!

29 posted on 08/15/2007 3:31:24 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: RedQuill

Yes they do

(see “log” and “cabin” in the homosexual (aleged) republican group name)


30 posted on 08/15/2007 3:34:22 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: crazyhorse691
"when Wyden insisted that Iran was responsible for supplying some of the roadside bombs that have killed many U.S. troops, several people booed.[THEY ARE NOT BOOING AT IRAN KILLING OUR TROOPS, THEY ARE BOOING THAT ANYONE WOULD DARE TO MENTION IT] "You've been listening to Cheney too much," one woman shouted.

These moonbats are true scumbags -- they don't get irate at Al Qaeda or Iran's Mullahs, they get irate at their own Demagogue Senator Wyden for not being even more of a treasonous weasel than he already is.
31 posted on 08/15/2007 3:34:28 PM PDT by Enchante (Reid and Pelosi Defeatocrats: Surrender Now - Peace for Our Time!!)
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To: crazyhorse691

I hope all the moonbat beholden congressmen and senators are being completely roasted by their constituents. They’ll come back to Washington with a renewed determination to end the war and impeach Bush and Cheney. That’s exactly what they need to be doing——to ensure they lose the next election.


32 posted on 08/15/2007 3:57:25 PM PDT by saganite (Billions and billions and billions----and that's just the NASA budget!)
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To: crazyhorse691

what we are seeing develop in the far west is a tyranny of the majority. We are seeing the marxist roots of liberalism. What you can’t get by reason, take by force. They are not setting a good example if this is what we can expect with a national liberal majority. Of course that’s why people will get mad and vote conservative again at some point. Over time this incessant tide in tide out thing becomes tiresome.


33 posted on 08/15/2007 3:58:32 PM PDT by kinghorse (I didn't question Nancy's patriotism. I questioned her judgment - Dick Cheney 2007)
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To: crazyhorse691
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and the RATS, take another one in the...............HA ha!!!

34 posted on 08/15/2007 4:05:12 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist)
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To: crazyhorse691
These turd constituents are in for a shock in '09 (and beyond) when they find out the war on terrororism will still be in full force in Iraq and in many other Middle Eastern locales.

Of course by then, they'll change their tune to something along the line that it isn't our fault we have to have troops in far off lands... it is all the Republican's fault.

Here's an idea Oregon moonbats... it is the terrorists' fault... they started it and we're (the good guys/gals wearing red white and blue) going to finish it.

35 posted on 08/15/2007 4:06:41 PM PDT by Trajan88 (www.bullittclub.com)
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To: kinghorse

what we are seeing develop in the far west is a tyranny of the majority


And that majority has the emotions of a 2 yr. old.


36 posted on 08/15/2007 4:07:04 PM PDT by crazyhorse691 (The faithful will keep their heads down, their powder dry and hammer at the enemies flanks.)
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To: rfp1234

—The Oregonian ^ | August 15, 2007 | JEFF MAPES—

Related to Mary Mapes of RaTHergate infamy?


Sex change:-)


37 posted on 08/15/2007 4:11:41 PM PDT by crazyhorse691 (The faithful will keep their heads down, their powder dry and hammer at the enemies flanks.)
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To: Enchante
Al Qaeda or Iran's Mullahs

These are their heroes, along with Marxists like Hugo Chavez and Evo Morales. About 60 were split between three intersections here in Roseburg, OR on Saturday with signs demanding immediate with-drawl from Iraq and Afghanistan and the Impeachment of Bush and Cheney. These are the very same individuals responsible for our defeat in Vietnam. They cheered Jane as she posed on the AA guns in Hanoi, laughed as the embassy was evacuated in Saigon and they hope for the extermination of Israel in a one Palestine victory today. I have hated these SOB's for almost 50 years now.

38 posted on 08/15/2007 4:16:58 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: crazyhorse691

“(I have my doubts about her claims of 3 family members being in Iraq).”

The b!tch is lying!

LLS


39 posted on 08/15/2007 4:41:17 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims!)
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To: crazyhorse691
Sen. Wyden made a career choice many moons ago to lie down with anti-war dogs.

Now the sand fleas and maggots are crawling all over him and biting without mercy. And he thought these blood-suckers would be in his camp forever.

Hah........I love it!

Bon apetit, Ron, baby.

Leni

40 posted on 08/15/2007 4:52:52 PM PDT by MinuteGal (Three Cheers for the FRed, White and Blue !)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; KlueLass; ...

And they continue to turn on their own. Good way for their own to turn our way. :’)


41 posted on 08/15/2007 4:53:50 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Tuesday, August 14, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: ken21

“all of the burned out hippiesin california have moved to
oregon.”

Not exactly accurate. In addition to Oregon, there are a fair number in the state of Washington, Colorado, and their offspring are still in California spouting the views that would convince the rest of America that they are not American. Simple minded rhetoric.


42 posted on 08/15/2007 5:07:29 PM PDT by AlphaOneAlpha
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To: mainepatsfan
I thank God these nuts weren't around during WWII.

 Actually, they were around during WWII.  The difference is that back then they had Uncle Joe Stalin telling them what to do.  Pre Operation Barbarossa, they were against US involvement in WWII.  Post Barbarossa, they were for it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Peace_Mobilization

Today, there is no Stalin to lead them. Instead, they have adopted the de facto position that 'the enemy of my enemy is my friend'

43 posted on 08/15/2007 6:02:15 PM PDT by beef (Who Killed Kennewick Man?)
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To: crazyhorse691
God bless her and her family. May they all make it home safely.
44 posted on 08/15/2007 6:10:17 PM PDT by AnnaZ (I keep 2 magnums in my desk.One's a gun and I keep it loaded.Other's a bottle and it keeps me loaded)
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To: LibLieSlayer

The b!tch is lying!


See post #7...she does have 3 family serving...and don’t insult female dogs by comparing them to her.


45 posted on 08/15/2007 6:17:23 PM PDT by crazyhorse691 (The faithful will keep their heads down, their powder dry and hammer at the enemies flanks.)
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To: crazyhorse691
"How do you sleep at night?" he asked.

On my side. Sometimes on my back.
46 posted on 08/15/2007 6:18:32 PM PDT by Jaysun (It's outlandishly inappropriate to suggest that I'm wrong.)
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To: crazyhorse691

When people get that far out of whack doesn’t the Fed send in the Guard? Oh that’s only for the southern people. I gotcha. They ought to be sending the Guard out to SF to protect the assault on free speech that’s going on there. I mean the locals are attempting to defy the Constitution. Where’s the defense of the Constitution?


47 posted on 08/15/2007 7:35:48 PM PDT by kinghorse (I didn't question Nancy's patriotism. I questioned her judgment - Dick Cheney 2007)
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To: mainepatsfan

Indeed. Could we pull together and help Cindy Sheehan run for President instead of just Pelosi’s senate seat ?

That would split them and be fun to watch the dem nominee try to deal with.


48 posted on 08/15/2007 8:17:03 PM PDT by festus (I'm a fRedneck and proud of it.)
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To: RedQuill

Even funnier is a Unitarian Church being united on a common goal or belief.

(Besides of course their unifying belief of “anything but Christ and the Bible”.)


49 posted on 08/15/2007 8:18:34 PM PDT by festus (I'm a fRedneck and proud of it.)
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To: crazyhorse691
Wyden "gets up every day trying to end the war," Kardon said. "But he can't change the law of physics."

What does THAT mean?

50 posted on 08/15/2007 8:24:30 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch (CLYBURN: Well, that would be a real big problem for us, no question about that.)
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