Skip to comments.Rookie cop who killed himself removed clip, left bullet in chamber
Posted on 08/15/2007 6:19:19 PM PDT by walkerk
The San Francisco rookie police officer who accidentally shot himself to death fired his weapon while displaying for a female friend how officers are taught to avoid having their guns used against them, law enforcement authorities said Tuesday.
The incident happened at 1:40 a.m. Saturday during a gathering of as many as 15 people at the San Mateo apartment of the 23-year-old officer, James Gustafson Jr.
According to those familiar with the incident, Gustafson was showing his Police Department-issued semiautomatic pistol after removing the clip that stores the rounds. He explained that there are ways an officer can disable a weapon in close proximity to keep it from being fired.
It apparently was part of a demonstration of the department's "weapons retention" procedures. However, there was still a bullet in the chamber.
Gustafson pointed the weapon at his neck and pulled the trigger, shooting himself, according to authorities.
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Sounds like he was playing with his gun at a party.
How about the "gun is always to be considered loaded, never point your weapon at something you aren't willing to destroy, fire only when you can identify your target and what lies behind it...
SF Police..... sad. If this was at a party, do you think that alcohol might have been involved?
I think he probably left a bit more of an impression on her than he intended.
All right class... How many of the 4 cardinal rules of safe firearms handling were violated in this incident?
Typical broke-diche press. A ‘clip’ is used in a rifle such as the M-1 Garand. And the poor officer that killed himself is another casualty of departments that do not stress realistic training in the handling of firearms.
It did happen in the emerald city...
On semi-autos you have to remove the magazine, then cycle the action to clear the chamber.
Oh Good Lord. Young guy impressing a girl. Probably alcohol, forgot to check the chamber. What a waste. Prayers for his loved ones.
It’s scary how little firearms training some LEOs receive. He should not have been graduated without knowing better than to pull a stunt like that. He probably thought he was well trained.
Well, at least they said “rounds” instead of bullets.
I for one would feel much safer if our noble legislators would condescend to provide the public with more restrictive gun control laws! /s
I would guess that the guy was never around guns before he became a cop. Having grown up in a house full of guns and been taught the basics from the time I could walk, I can’t even imagine doing this. I could take the magazine out, check the chamber 10 times, and I would still probably be mentally unable to force myself to point a gun at my neck and pull the trigger
Of course, they used “bullet” in the headline.
Oh my Barney, had a jailhouse
Had a key but couldn’t lock it
Had a bullet for his pistol
Had to keep it in his pocket!
Yep, good thing it didn’t have a case, primer, and powder. It could have been thrown at a house in Irag.
Yes, but you know only police should be allowed to have guns.
A friend of mine who lives in the city called the police one morning because a deer wandering through was hit by a car.
The cop put the gun against the deer’s skull at about 4 inches from the concrete. My friend pointed out that he may want to try shooting it at a bit of an angle so when the projectile rebounded off the pavement he wouldn’t catch it in the face or something. The cop ended up calling animal control to finish it off.
Remember kids: he was a professional - don’t try this at home.
My dad used to say nothing good ever happens after midnight.
One time I was clearing my pistol and dropped the mag and then pulled the slide back. I then reholstered and it occured to me the round never came out of the chamber. I looked and it was still in there. The extractor had failed and I still had a loaded gun which I thought was empty.
I’m a range safety officer for the IDPA and the other safety officers are the only ones who give me trouble when it comes time to clear weapons. The other competitors and especially the new members never give me half the trouble like the ones who should know better.
Was alcohol involved?
Prayers for the officers family. But you simply dont point a gun at anybody unless you plan to use it. And all guns are to be considered loaded even if you think they are not...is that not correct gun theory?
I saw a fellow get shot right in the center of the back of his neck by a .38. Not pretty, not pretty at all. Quarts of blood on the ground in seconds.
“I would guess that the guy was never around guns before he became a cop. Having grown up in a house full of guns and been taught the basics from the time I could walk, I cant even imagine doing this. I could take the magazine out, check the chamber 10 times, and I would still probably be mentally unable to force myself to point a gun at my neck and pull the trigger..”
Growing up in the same environment....I know EXACTLY what you mean. Hell.....I get the willies staring down the barrel of a completely unassembled firearm while cleaning it.
P.O.S.T certification malpractice.
Odds on favorite for Darwin Award of the Year.
Sad for him and his family and loved ones but better he not be on the street where he could have hurt a partner or a civilian.
He obviously didn’t spend much personal time handling firearms. When I handle my semi-auto pistols, when I remove the magazine, it’s almost a reflexive action to pull back the slide to verify an empty chamber. This should ALWAYS be done when handing the pistol to another person if they want to look it over.
This guy had no business carrying a gun. Though tragic, at least he killed himself instead of someone else.....
I would guess that the guy was never around guns before he became a cop. Having grown up in a house full of guns and been taught the basics from the time I could walk, I cant even imagine doing this. I could take the magazine out, check the chamber 10 times, and I would still probably be mentally unable to force myself to point a gun at my neck and pull the trigger
Been there - Seen that. My friend’s boyfriend. Guess he thought he would impress us (a gruop of friends) by putting his seemingly unloaded gun to his head and pulling the trigger. One still in the chamber though - not pretty. I’m just thankful no one else was hurt or killed. And of course there was alcohol involved.
Hot lead, cold beer and testosterone are a deadly combination.
How was he supposed to know. He was a rookie. Shouldn't someone have told him that pointing a gun at yourself can be hazardous to your health? Obviously he couldn't reason that pointing a gun at someone else could get them killed therefore pointing a gun at himself could have a similar result. That only comes with years of experience in law enforcement. Or, in this case, a blinding instant of enlightenment.
I remember my first deer hunt with my old man. (I must have been 7 or so and armed with a BB gun!) But alas I swung the barrel around carelessly and had to sit in the car the rest of the day.
And here’s the rest of the story:
A Drug Enforcement Administration agent who stars in a popular online video that shows him shooting himself in the foot during a weapons demonstration for Florida children is suing over the tape’s release, claiming that his career has been crippled and he’s become a laughingstock due to the embarrassing clip’s distribution. Lee Paige, 45, blames the video’s release on DEA officials in an April 7 federal lawsuit filed against the U.S. government. A copy of the pro se complaint by Paige, a DEA agent since 1990, can be found below. According to the lawsuit, Paige was making a “drug education presentation” in April 2004 to a Florida youth group when his firearm (a Glock .40) accidentally discharged. The shooting occurred moments after Paige told the children that he was the only person in the room professional enough to carry the weapon. The accident was filmed by an audience member, and the tape, Paige claims, was turned over to the DEA. The drug agency subsequently “improperly, illegally, willfully and/or intentionally” allowed the tape to be disseminated. As a result, Paige—pictured above in a still from the video—has been the “target of jokes, derision, ridicule, and disparaging comments” directed at him in restaurants, grocery stores, and airports. Paige, who writes that he was “once regarded as one of the best undercover agents, if not the best, in the DEA,” points to the clip’s recent airing on popular television shows and via the Internet as the reason he can no longer work undercover. He also notes that he is no longer “permitted or able to give educational motivational speeches and presentations.”
Always keep the gun pointed in a safe direction
Always keep your finger of the trigger until ready to shoot
Always keep the gun unloaded until ready to use
He shot his load earlier than he intended.
Those rules don’t apply to cops and G-men, dontcha know, because they are so much more per-fessional than the rest of us.
Darwin candidate, possible semiannual winner of the year.
Yeh, they don't use our rules ; they use Jeff's rules
With all due respect, there is no such thing as an unloaded firerm.
I am also unaware of any safe directions in which to point a firearm.
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