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Russia’s G5 System of Air Defense Able to Counter Space Attack
Kommersant ^ | August 8, 2007 | not divulged [no author given]

Posted on 08/15/2007 10:03:29 PM PDT by Bald Eagle777

Russia’s G5 system of missile defense leaves far behind the S-400 systems that are coming into operation today. It is able to counter space attacks, said Russia’s Air Force Commander-in-Chief Col.-Gen. Alexander Zelin.

(Excerpt) Read more at kommersant.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia; Unclassified
KEYWORDS: almazanteidesign; countermeasures; dictator; evilempire; putin; russia; russiang5; sovietunion; threats; zapperzeez
Just maybe Zelin, or someone in his organization, might just make a mistake.
1 posted on 08/15/2007 10:03:36 PM PDT by Bald Eagle777
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To: Bald Eagle777

Yea, and that T-80 tank was such a success.


2 posted on 08/15/2007 10:06:37 PM PDT by occamrzr06
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To: Bald Eagle777
Interesting.

Hopefully it won’t get into the wrong hands before Israel and the U.S. clean house in the Middle East.

3 posted on 08/15/2007 10:07:58 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: Bald Eagle777

They sound much like the Iranian leadership in exaggerations about their weapons.


4 posted on 08/15/2007 10:11:42 PM PDT by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt.)--has-been, will write Duncan Hunter in)
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To: Bald Eagle777

Great, now the aliens will know. Thanks, MSM.


5 posted on 08/15/2007 10:13:20 PM PDT by neodad (USS Vincennes (CG-49) Freedom's Fortress)
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To: Bald Eagle777

More bs from Putin and his commie buddies.


6 posted on 08/15/2007 10:16:52 PM PDT by End Times Crusader (Ron Paul : No Constitutionalist No conservative No Republican - Kick him out of the GOP)
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To: occamrzr06

Exactly. I saw on TV that during the height of the cold war that the USSR only had 6 icbm capable of hitting the US. I do not believe a word they say about Ruuuuusky weaponry.


7 posted on 08/15/2007 10:30:04 PM PDT by biff
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To: Bald Eagle777
It's thoroughly tested too, no doubt.

When all you have to fight with is bilge water, might as well toss it and see what happens.

8 posted on 08/15/2007 10:32:16 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Elections have consequences.)
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To: biff

An M-48 most likely could have torn a T-80 up, an M-60 definitely, M-1 no contest.

I don’t believe any of it either.

Scuds, Katusha’s, Quassams....how about MLRS and ATACMS.

We just need the balls to use them!


9 posted on 08/15/2007 10:38:04 PM PDT by occamrzr06
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To: occamrzr06

LOL

With a terminal velocity in excess 4,000 MPH, I doubt the -400 will take anything out

For fun, this is what they would see just before the flashbulb goes off

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Peacekeeper-missile-testing.jpg


10 posted on 08/15/2007 10:46:09 PM PDT by ASOC (Yeah, well, maybe - but can you *prove* it?)
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To: nw_arizona_granny

Ping


11 posted on 08/15/2007 10:46:19 PM PDT by DAVEY CROCKETT (The Pigs are about to take over the barnyard!)
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To: neodad
Great, now the aliens will know. Thanks, MSM.

lol!

12 posted on 08/15/2007 10:47:20 PM PDT by pax_et_bonum (I will always love you, Flyer.... one year ago yesterday we lost you....)
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To: Bald Eagle777

Well they’ve had such good luck with their subs and torpedos. Boom!


13 posted on 08/15/2007 10:52:07 PM PDT by garyhope (It's World War IV, right here, right now, courtesy of Islam.)
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To: biff

If true it would be because we didn’t gift Russia with our space tech like we did China. We’ve learned so much over the years...


14 posted on 08/15/2007 11:14:17 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: occamrzr06

“An M-48 most likely could have torn a T-80 up”

Sure, and a F-4 would tear a Su-30 apart (pilots being equal) too, right? (sarc)


15 posted on 08/16/2007 12:02:22 AM PDT by Constantine XI Palaeologus ("Vicisti, Galilaee")
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To: Bald Eagle777
And of course we stupid Americans believe every words they utter. sarcasm
16 posted on 08/16/2007 12:04:21 AM PDT by fish hawk (The religion of Darwinism = Monkey Intellect)
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To: DAVEY CROCKETT

Bump.


17 posted on 08/16/2007 12:28:32 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( Today is a good day for working on some heavy praying. The world needs God to hear them.)
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To: Bald Eagle777

Check out the super advanced white duct tape holding these babies together at the bottom of the photo!

18 posted on 08/16/2007 2:47:17 AM PDT by Jeff F
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To: occamrzr06
An M-48 most likely could have torn a T-80 up, an M-60 definitely, M-1 no contest.

Only later varients of the M-60 had a stabilized gun allowing "shoot on the move", and it was only effective at fairly low speeds. I don't think true night vision sights came out until the M1 Abrams. The M48 would have been meat on the table for a T80 in most tactical situations.

If the M60 were still a viable system, the Marines would probably still be using them -- they aren't. The Marines use their tanks somewhat differently than the Army & the M1 design reflects that. Slowly the M1 is getting things, like a telephone that allows a dismount to converse with the tank commander, a diesel generator that allows the tanks systems to be powered without the gas turbine enging engaged, etc.

19 posted on 08/16/2007 6:16:14 AM PDT by Tallguy (Climate is what you plan for, weather is what you get.)
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To: Bald Eagle777

20 posted on 08/16/2007 9:48:38 AM PDT by klpt
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To: familyop; nw_arizona_granny
Putin, get ready for war with the West.

The Voronezh-type meter-band early warning radar station in the Leningrad Region.

From right to left: Sergey Boyev, director-general of the RTI Systems Concern, Vladimir Putin and Colonel General Vladimir Popovkin, Russian Space Forces commander, visiting the Voronezhanti-missile radar.

Putin increases missile defence rhetoric

Analysis: Train bomb to help Putin?

21 posted on 08/16/2007 3:20:57 PM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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To: M. Espinola
"Putin, get ready for war with the West."

Putin is a very proud man in a very proud nation. Oil was once the determining operations necessity in large conflicts. But he overestimates the significance of oil for the end of a contemporary large conflict.
22 posted on 08/16/2007 7:23:16 PM PDT by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt.)--has-been, will write Duncan Hunter in)
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To: occamrzr06

The Scuds(1950s) & Katyushas(1940s) can’t be compared with those much later American weapons you talk about.

About the T-80,well it’s not seen combat yet & given,favourable air support,which users like South Korea & Russia can afford,take on anything.


23 posted on 08/16/2007 7:54:48 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: Bald Eagle777

More stolen US tech. Reverse engineered and several to many years out of date. Big worries here!!!


24 posted on 08/16/2007 7:59:00 PM PDT by gbs
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To: Tallguy; sukhoi-30mki

OK, maybe not an M-48, but the M-60A3 could. I’m Artillery, not a DAT, or a CDAT.

As Stalin said, quantity has a quality all its own.

Tankers I know wish the M-1 had a trap door in the bottom, like the M-60, to relieve themselves.

sukhoi, the South Koreans don’t have any T model tanks, but I knew what you meant.


25 posted on 08/16/2007 9:07:32 PM PDT by occamrzr06 (Artillery don't kill tanks, tanks Kill tanks!)
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To: M. Espinola

Does Putin really want a cold war, or is he ready for a hot war the next time?


26 posted on 08/17/2007 10:52:35 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( Prayers are needed for the brave rescuers, who gave their life today, in the Utah mine. 7 in hosp.)
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To: occamrzr06

Umm,why don’t you google South Korea & T-80 together.


27 posted on 08/17/2007 11:28:06 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: nw_arizona_granny
"Does Putin really want a cold war, or is he ready for a hot war the next time?"

Good question.

Some of Putin's Stalinist-like, West bashing, strongman posturing is for domestic consumption, due to various domestic issues within the real Russian empire (outside of Moscow).

On the other hand, Putin's Kremlin continues multi-weapons shipments to the most vicious anti-American dictatorships, from Iran to Venezuela, clearly & alarmingly reminiscent of the 'old days' when the Russians used pro-Soviet proxies to fight their wars against America & her allies, as well as Israel's Arab enemies, including KGB 'assistance' to various top level Arab terrorists as in the PLO & other groups of killers.

Dictator Putin's latest duel stunts directed at Washington & NATO are war games with Red Chinese forces plus announcing to the world during the war games that Russian long range bombers topically armed with nuclear weapons will immediately resume around-the-clock international flights. When those bomber missions were stopped some 15 years ago the reason was the Russians ran out of dough to keep their strategic bombers in the air, now since the Putin régime is rolling in wealth due to very profitable oil & natural gas exports, Putin is letting us know Cold War II is on with a vengeance and could escalate to a hot war rapidly if the Russian tyrant is not appeased.

Some leadership from Washington would be nice relating to Putin's collection of mounting threats.

In pictures: Russia-China war games

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Putin denial of atrocities to be expected"

Americans have more than a few blotches of shame in our history. Our treatment of African-American slaves and of native Americans, for example, are episodes that make nearly all of us heartsick, though neither we nor our immediate ancestors had anything to do with them.

But Americans admit the stains on our history. How else, we think, to guard against similar horrors in the future? That cannot be said for those in some other nations — or even for their leaders.

Russian President Vladimir Putin was asked recently to discuss the slaughter of millions of people by the regime of the late Josef Stalin. The occasion was the dedication of a memorial to about 700,000 people executed at one site by Stalin’s secret police.

Russians should not feel guilty about the Stalinist slaughters because, “in other countries, even worse things happened,” Putin said. Among those “even worse things” was the U.S. decision to drop atomic bombs on Japan to end World War II, he suggested.

It was to be expected that Putin, himself a KGB veteran, would defend the Stalinist regime to some extent. But to compare its atrocities to use of atomic bombs to end a war goes too far.

Perhaps critics of Putin, who say that he wishes for a return to a totalitarian regime, are right.

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28 posted on 08/18/2007 12:03:11 AM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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To: Bald Eagle777

Each nation on earth has its way of living or thinking and Russia is by far a nation of paranoids without a doubt.


29 posted on 08/18/2007 12:04:43 AM PDT by Eye of Unk
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To: M. Espinola

On the other hand, Putin’s Kremlin continues multi-weapons shipments to the most vicious anti-American dictatorships, from Iran to Venezuela, clearly & alarmingly reminiscent of the ‘old days’ when the Russians used pro-Soviet proxies to fight their wars against America & her allies, as well as Israel’s Arab enemies, including KGB ‘assistance’ to various top level Arab terrorists as in the PLO & other groups of killers.<<<<

That is what is bothering me.

He has us almost circled with russian weapons, in the hands of insane people.

As my memory goes, Putin is playing the same script, they used before.


30 posted on 08/18/2007 1:20:02 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( Prayers are needed for the brave rescuers, who gave their life today, in the Utah mine. 7 in hosp.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

They only bought 30 of them. They are either using them for target practice, or OPFOR.

30 Tanks isn’t even a Battalion.


31 posted on 08/18/2007 4:44:48 PM PDT by occamrzr06
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To: Tallguy
True enough. The M-60’s thermal sight is actually better than that on the M1/M1IP/M1A1 tank. It is absolutely devastating in a defensive role...as many of us M1A1 crews discovered during force on force exercises against them.

Regards,

32 posted on 08/18/2007 5:12:28 PM PDT by Thunder 6
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To: nw_arizona_granny
"That is what is bothering me. He has us almost circled with russian weapons, in the hands of insane people. As my memory goes, Putin is playing the same script, they used before."

I fully agree. The very enemies we are combating in Iraq and Afghanistan, Putin's Russia is supplying weapons to through Iran and Syria.

Each time the oil market panic due to threats to Middle Eastern supplies, Russia and their OPEC proxies earn billions. Vast amounts of oil profits Iran continues fuelling their version of Shi'ite Jihad through their trained pro-Iranian terrorist in Hezballah, Hamas plus Iraq's Shi'ite terrorists.

Everything Putin is doing in terms of his military clearly indicates a future war is being organized on a global level.

You are correct, KGB Putin is in effect encircling us whether it be enemies on our southern flank, Russian nuclear armed subs and now the round-the-clock resumption of Russian bombers. The Baltic state, Poland and other nations formerly behind the Iron Curtain are nervous about the future and if they are attacked will NATO assist them in combating the Russian invaders.

Putin latest brazen act of typical communist media control is the banning of the BBC.

BBC Removed From FM Radio In Russia

Which 'un-Russian' media will be banned next?

The Russians have also been controlled by one brutal dictator or another, and most love the current tyrant and show it.

We are viewing another Hitler. Do we wait until this beast attacks, or act first, as we should have against Hitler in 1938 and did not?

33 posted on 08/19/2007 3:00:32 AM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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To: M. Espinola

We are viewing another Hitler. Do we wait until this beast attacks, or act first, as we should have against Hitler in 1938 and did not?<<<

I fear that with the likes of Kennedy, Pelosi, Murtha and the the other 50 or so Congress members of the communists, that we will wait for the big attack and they will surrender.

There is no way that you will convince the left to attack the communists.

Our future is in danger.


34 posted on 08/19/2007 3:59:58 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( God loaned us many of the Brave people, those who keep us free and safe and for balance liberals..)
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To: nw_arizona_granny
You are right, communists will not attack communists (unless they are bumping each other off in a coup :).

Watch for Putin to become ever so bold in the coming weeks and months - as the West sleeps. This is so dangerous.

35 posted on 08/19/2007 5:36:23 AM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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To: occamrzr06

Why buy an expensive system which is in service with a handful of countries,none of which are opposed to the South Koreans??The older T-55/72 would have been a better bet if exercises were the only bet.All that being said,the South Koreans brought these as part of Russia’s repayment of loans & there are have been rumours of additional batches.The autoloader tech from the T-80 has reportedly found it’s way into the new South Korean XK-2 tank.


36 posted on 08/19/2007 7:59:22 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: klpt

Inflatables can do the job.


37 posted on 08/19/2007 8:03:44 AM PDT by RightWhale (It's Brecht's donkey, not mine)
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