Posted on 08/16/2007 6:15:53 AM PDT by JKrive
The Republican Party's national chairman scolded his party's two top presidential candidates this week for their tough stance on illegal immigration, even as both men moved to try to one-up each other in calling for stricter enforcement.
Sen. Mel Martinez of Florida, President Bush's handpicked choice for party chairman, chided former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney and former New York Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani for opposing and mischaracterizing the Senate immigration bill Mr. Martinez helped craft.
"It's about leading on the tough issues," Mr. Martinez told the St. Petersburg Area Chamber of Commerce in comments first reported in yesterday's St. Petersburg Times. "It was easy to say, 'This wasn't good enough, this isn't right, I don't agree with Martinez.' ... But at the end of the day, what is your answer? How would you solve this?"
His criticism comes as illegal immigration has become for Republican candidates what the Iraq war is for Democrats: a chance to compete to take the hardest line. And just as with the Democrats on Iraq, the immigration debate includes veteran lawmakers, such as Arizona Sen. John McCain, whose earlier positions are coming back to haunt him among the party's base.
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It’s about leading on the tough issues,” Mr. Martinez
Hey Mel: I don’t have any problem with someone leading on tough issues. But not if they’re leading us in a direction that diametrically opposed by the vast majority of your base. Its a sure sign that where your “leading” people is bad for the country.
I think he’d also have more credibility if he returned donations from all big employers who want more illegals.
They will never get it. To them, its their stupid base that doesn’t get it. The only cure is to start voting these clowns out of office starting in 2008. Lindsay Graham should be the poster child for this campaign.
Mel needs to find a new Job.
So does most of the rest of the GOP in DC.
LOL ... "tough stance" = pandering. Don't worry Mel, they don't mean a bit of it.
We must remain on the ball and firm on this issue.
It is beyond me that Mel would go after GOP candidates for holding a position on illegal immigration that is in line w/ the majority of the country.
Man, is Mel a loser! Any candidate that subscribes to tough enforcement and NO amnesty for illegal aliens will most likely be a winner.
At least one can hope.....................
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Look for the RNC to start [if they haven't already] threatening candidates with a loss of funding, if those candidates don't accept the lock-step party line of 'comprehensive immigration reform' [a.k.a., amnesty for illegals].
In my opionion, the ones who do not “get it” are conservatives who still think George Bush is a “compassionate conservative”.
Border barrier, employer sanctions, end welfare, and deportation.
Are you taking notes, Mel?
Mel Martinez is a worthless pile of steaming sh**!!
I stopped giving to the RNC and give to individual candidates.....even if not in my state.
Too bad Mr. Martinez doesn’t understand ‘ILLEGAL’ means against the law.....
Maybe next time Mel and his family goes on vacation, they’ll let people here ILLEGALLY move into their home.
I just got a RNC “census” and donation request. I guess it’s time to print some “nada peso” bills and send them in.
bttt
I let my RNC membership expire. They still have me on the mailing list. They even just mailed out their super secret label decoder pin.
I bet they waste more money with mass mailings then marketing companies.
Keep takling, Mel. If you do, you might be able to drive RNC contributions down by 80%, a stellar accomplishment.
“Border barrier, employer sanctions, end welfare, and deportation.”
Gosh, that’s not hard at all. Given the first three, the fourth would pretty much take care of itself, except for the criminal element.
Actually, I think such a campaign should have "poster twins", the other being Mel Martinez himself.
I got a call the other day of
“Would you agree that having Clinton or Obama as president would be disastrous for the country?”
I knew the next question would be a beg for money.
I said, “Oh, this is a push-poll, isn’t it?” - they hung up on me.
“Sen. Mel Martinez of Florida, President Bush’s handpicked choice for party chairman,...”
The Republican Party is controlled by Proponants of Shamnesty.
I’ve posted in the past, if anybody cares that we need to change the leadership of the Republican Party. The Party under President Bush and Mel Martinez is problematic as it moves the Party into Moderate territory, which is RINO territory, which is Liberal. This dilutes the system with Liberalism as lesser Political Parties haven’t the ability to compete in the near term, thus respond sufficiently to counter a Leftward/Socialist movement driven by two Leftist leaning Political entities.
By the time a third Party can be fit for the Political High Seas, the Leftists will have ruined this Nation even more than they have.
There has to be dissenting leadership within the Republican Party towards changing the Leadership, thus the direction of the Party.
>>>Maybe it’s time for a third party.
The Conservatives have to rally and take back the RNC. Why run from it? Conservatives have to hold their ground. Not vote with their feet and surrender to liberals.
It is truely disgusting when fear tactics have to be used to sell a point because there is nothing positive to advertise.
www.recallmel.com
“Keep telling them no donations to shamnesty proponents.”
You are 100% correct.
No BS’ing...speak through your wallets. Just tell the RNC you’re sending your donations to the candidates who will back strong border enforcement. Not a penny will go to the RNC or those who will cave in to “comprehensive immigration reform”.
Enforcement first.
Build the wall.
Then we can start talks on TEMPORARY “guest worker program”...although by the time the Pubs get around to all of this most of the illegals will have self deported due to the tanking economy and loss of jobs.
The ONLY way to get the point across is money.
Clowns out, illegals out!
You, Jorge and McLame are yesterday's news.
Get out of the way.
Which explains why their literature is in my wastebasket and my wallet is not open.
I was down in Miami in early July. There’s a lot of money coming into that town. You can see cranes all over the place. Some of the money comes from NYC but a lot of it comes from latin america. And a lot of that appears to be narco money.
The Spanish speakers there make sure you understand that their language and culture is dominant. There’s a grating imperial tone to it.
The people who run Miami have divided loyalties and strange ambitions.
Mel Martinez stays in good odor with these folks.
He wrote..."both parties spend like drunken sailors and both are for amnesty, so what's the difference?"
I also notice Mel and others in the RNC continue to ignore Duncan Hunter, the only bright spot in the Republican Party, IMO.
I think it’s funny that the GOP considers the top candidates stances on immigration to be tough. They all tried to avoid mentioning it till the crap hit the fan then they suddenly became “tough”. LOL
Hunter or Tancredo for me. For now I support Hunter for his work on the armmed services comittee as well as his effectiveness on the border but if he drops out my support will go to Tancredo.
Yup, that about says it all.
Oh this idiot is toast!
Crud.
That’s a good article to have dug up. Huckabee’s clueless, too.
ATTENTION SENATOR MEL “AMNESTY” MARTINEZ
You do not speak for me on this issue.
You do not speak for the vast majority of americans.
In fact, you do not speak for the vast majority of floridians!
You can’t fix stupid and Senator Mel Martinez is stuck on stupid. NOT ONE PENNY to the GOP as long as he is idiotic about immigration.
Mel Martinez better worry about his own position because he current path will attract a viable primary challenge. (and not some 1% kook either)
Can we deport Martinez back to Cuba?
The RNC will never again get a single penny from myself or my extended family. And that is a lot, believe me.
The RNC Chairman is Mike Duncan.
Sen. Martinez is the RNC “General” Chairman. and should resign.
I didn’t know KR threatened Tancredo to stay out of the WH for opposing illegal immigration way back in 2002. No wonder they tried so shamelessly to push this traitorous shamnesty down our throats. It’s been in the works for a long, long time.
“Members of Congress, always anonymously, whispered about Rove’s threats and intimidation when it came to backing Bush’s policies. Rep. Tom Tancredo, one of the few Republicans to publicly complain about Rove, told reporters about a 2002 run-in with Bush’s strategist over immigration reform. Tancredo, who opposes Bush’s plan, told NEWSWEEK Rove warned him “never to darken the doorstep of the White House again” after he went on TV to bash immigration reform.”
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20249940/site/newsweek/page/2/
Something I just don’t get. The amnesty promoting Republicans are carrying water for the Open Border Lobby, which presumably exercises its influence through campaign donations. McCain has done his best for the OBL, but can’t raise any money. You’d think that he would be showered with money. Those Republicans following the OBL line just seem to get politically smote, with out any benefit.
Giving of your time and money to help others is compassion; taking other people's time and money to give to others is just plain stealing.
So far the leading done, has cost many tens of thousands, innocent Americans, their lives. A father, a mother, a sister, or a brother, all grieve for the loss of these lives, but those who are supposed to protect Americans continue to refuse to enforce our laws.
My solution:
1) Abolish Anchor Babies (this is not a right)
2) Abolish federal and state benefits to illegals and their offspring
3) No valid social security number, jail the employer, and the worker for 15 years doing hard labor.
4) Deport anyone in this nation illegally, by whatever means necessary.
5) If a deportee comes back, 20 years hard labor, no compensation.
6) A worker program, tracked and monitored where the people work seasonally and then go home.
7) Abolish santuary cities, or remove all of their federal funding.
Now I realize, I will see none of my solution enacted. I am only a citizen, none in D.C. or the State level will listen to me. And the lives lost will continue.
We have been lied to, sued, called racists and attempts to be silenced. All in the name of the Big Tent. It is time to throw the 3 ring circus out.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1829933/posts?page=27#27
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1829933/posts?page=28#28
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1829933/posts?page=29#29
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1829933/posts?page=30#30
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1829933/posts?page=31#31
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1829933/posts?page=32#32
If the GOP starts threatening candidats they are finished for a generation. F.Thompson better take heed.
It is not a question of a malcontents, it is a question of why bother if republicans are going to do amnesty identical to democrats.
Mel Martinez MUST GO!!!!
Perhaps it is time for a FReep but who do we email? Does the GOP have a governing board?
6 months ago you could have told me Tancredo had a shot at the white house and I would have said “I wish that was true but it won’t happen”. After a strong showing in Iowa I’m not so sure it isn’t possible any more.
There’s a lot of support among 2nd tier candidates that will very likely go to Tancredo as other drop out. Personally I think Tancredo and Hunter are the only ones with a real shot once it comes down to one democrat and one republican. Conservatives are in a foul mood over the RINOs and the leftward swing of the GOP.
Keep telling them no donations to shamnesty proponents. Help Duncan Hunter. Seems to be the only one who opposes this nonsense.
We’re already doing this. RNC will never get another dime from us. We send what little we can to Hunter’s campaign.
“compassionate conservative”.
Double speak-closet liberal
You DO realize the 1996 immigration reform act DID do away with anchor babies?
Custody follows the parents, thuse a us citizen minor born in the USA of illegal alien parents will go with the parents when they are deported. 1996 reforms did away with serial immigration via anchor baby.
This is why Durbin is pushing the Dream Act. It is an AMNESTY scheme which makes ALL minors into anchor babies for seiral immigration. Durbin put an illegal aliens in the military clause to stealth it into a military bill.
In summation 1996 Immigration Reform Act eliminated anchor babies.
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