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Martinez chides GOP candidates
St. Petersburg Times ^ | August 15, 2007 | ADAM C. SMITH

Posted on 08/16/2007 8:14:28 AM PDT by 3AngelaD

ST. PETERSBURG - Sen. Mel Martinez, the head of the Republican National Committee, took a swipe Tuesday at the leading Republican presidential candidates for not offering solid solutions to America's immigration crisis.

In his remarks, Martinez did not directly refer to former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney or former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani, but he later suggested both candidates, who were critics of the controversial Senate immigration proposal, had mischaracterized the plan. He also urged audience members to pin down the Republican candidates on immigration when they come to St. Petersburg for the YouTube/CNN Republican presidential debate Nov. 28...

Martinez's remarks underscored both the difficulty Republicans are having with the volatile issue of immigration and the delicate position Martinez holds as both a senator and general chairman of the Republican National Committee amid a heated presidential primary.

"It can be a little awkward," acknowledged Martinez, a Cuban-immigrant who is neutral in the presidential race but has called Republican presidential candidate John McCain "courageous" for being a champion of the immigration plan that was so unpopular with much of the Republican base....

"I don't want to in any way intervene in the primary process," Martinez said. "But at the same time, I have an obligation as a senator to speak about the issues..."

(Excerpt) Read more at sptimes.com ...


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KEYWORDS: amnesty; elections; illegalimmigration; martinez; melmartinez; rinos; sellouts; shamnesty
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1 posted on 08/16/2007 8:14:29 AM PDT by 3AngelaD
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To: 3AngelaD

Shut up, Mel.


2 posted on 08/16/2007 8:16:12 AM PDT by Right Cal Gal (Remember Billy Dale!!!)
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To: 3AngelaD

WTF? Im looking for a candidate who is against any form of amnesty, and who will enforce existing rules!


3 posted on 08/16/2007 8:16:20 AM PDT by cardinal4
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To: 3AngelaD

I thought we were going to recall mel.

I didn’t know debate was going to be here, in St. Pete. Does anyone have details and is it open to “we the people?” I’d like to go.


4 posted on 08/16/2007 8:16:59 AM PDT by TaxxMann (THE CONSTITUTION DOES NOT GUARANTEE FAIR SPEECH, IT GUARANTEES FREE SPEECH)
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To: 3AngelaD

Mel Martinez' leadership at the GOP:

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5 posted on 08/16/2007 8:17:24 AM PDT by TommyDale (Never forget the Republicans who voted for illegal immigrant amnesty in 2007!)
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To: Right Cal Gal

Right On, Right Cal Gal - Martinez, STFU ....


6 posted on 08/16/2007 8:17:36 AM PDT by Ken522
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To: 3AngelaD

BUMP to expose GOP leadership stupidity.


7 posted on 08/16/2007 8:17:48 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Crom! Non-Sequitur = Pee Wee Herman.)
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To: 3AngelaD

Martinez needs to go we won’t win with this moron.


8 posted on 08/16/2007 8:18:18 AM PDT by boomop1 (there you go again)
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To: 3AngelaD

Hey Mel, what are you polling at in Florida? About 33%

You are a one termer. It’s not totally your fault, your patron promoted you way over your head. He does that with people he likes.


9 posted on 08/16/2007 8:18:54 AM PDT by NeoCaveman ("I mean, he's gone from Jane Fonda to Dr. Strangelove in one week." - Romney on B. Hussein Obama)
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To: 3AngelaD

“Sen. Mel Martinez, the head of the Republican National Committee”

A major problem for the Pubbies.....with a JERK like that in charge of the RNC. Bush appointed this guy without any thought of what it would do to the Pubbies.


10 posted on 08/16/2007 8:20:24 AM PDT by kenmcg
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To: 3AngelaD

Sounds to me like the GOP wants to lose.


11 posted on 08/16/2007 8:21:42 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Greed is NOT a conservative ideal.)
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To: 3AngelaD
"I don't want to in any way intervene in the primary process," Martinez said.

Then don't, fool! Simply keep your mouth shut.

12 posted on 08/16/2007 8:21:50 AM PDT by mort56
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To: 3AngelaD
"I don't want to in any way intervene in the primary process," Martinez said. "But at the same time, I have an obligation as a senator to speak about the issues..."

Okay then, Mr. Martinez, it's time to decide which position you want and to give up the other one.

13 posted on 08/16/2007 8:22:44 AM PDT by Bahbah
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To: TaxxMann

This is the You Tube debate here in St Pete. I haven’t heard about attendance but it will probably be college kids picked by the MSM so they will boo on cue.


14 posted on 08/16/2007 8:24:40 AM PDT by Hazcat (We won an immigration BATTLE, the WAR is not over. Be ever vigilant.)
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To: 3AngelaD
As soon as I saw the vague headline, I knew what he was "chiding" the candidates about.

What does that say about Martinez' priorities?

It would seem he's more interested in rewarding illegal behavior than in the success of the party or the nation.

15 posted on 08/16/2007 8:26:18 AM PDT by B Knotts (Anybody but Giuliani!)
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To: 3AngelaD

Mel Martinez was “handpicked” by Presidente Bush to be the General Chairman of the Republican National Committee.

Mike Duncan is the RNC Chairman.


16 posted on 08/16/2007 8:26:19 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch (US Constitution Article 4 Section 4..shall protect each of them against Invasion...domestic Violence)
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To: Right Cal Gal

I wonder if Senior M is going to be in trouble next time he runs?


17 posted on 08/16/2007 8:26:22 AM PDT by GeorgefromGeorgia
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To: cripplecreek

Since the Dummies have Dean leading the DNC, I guess the RNC thought to level the playing field.

Martinez should resign. But he should shut up first.


18 posted on 08/16/2007 8:26:52 AM PDT by Right Cal Gal (Remember Billy Dale!!!)
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To: boomop1

boomopi says, “Martinez needs to go we won’t win with this moron.”

I agree....goodby Martinez, and not a minute too soon.


19 posted on 08/16/2007 8:27:38 AM PDT by Auntie Toots (The GOP is still the best we've got.....AND THAT USED TO BE THE TRUTH)
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To: Right Cal Gal

Folks like Mel are why I no longer give to the party and have soured on them considerably.


20 posted on 08/16/2007 8:29:48 AM PDT by SmoothTalker
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To: 3AngelaD

THis is just a liberal rag trying to get Republicans fighting each other.

Sure, Mel is a dork and is out of touch with his own constiuency, but he doesn’t “chide” or “take a swipe at” as the article claims. THE PAPER claims he said Roody and Mitt “mischaracterized” the immigrant bill but what were their actual words? Don’t trust this rag.

We’re going to be seeing more and more of these types of articles trying to fracture Republican and independent support for those on the right.


21 posted on 08/16/2007 8:29:51 AM PDT by subterfuge (Today, Tolerance =greatest virtue;Hypocrisy=worst character defect; Discrimination =worst atrocity)
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To: 3AngelaD

Hey Mel.....BUILD THE WALL. That;s the answer to ILLEGAL immigration!


22 posted on 08/16/2007 8:30:06 AM PDT by Suzy Quzy
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To: 3AngelaD
Cierre su boca Mel. Y, basa me coolo tambien...por favor.

5.56mm

23 posted on 08/16/2007 8:31:01 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: subterfuge

“THis is just a liberal rag trying to get Republicans fighting each other.”

Maybe so but Mel has been pushing against the base on this issue for a long time. No liberal rag has made him do that.


24 posted on 08/16/2007 8:31:22 AM PDT by SmoothTalker
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To: GeorgefromGeorgia

No, he won’t, because Florida is a Third World hell hole and Latin American political customs and rules now apply. Think banana republic, and I don’t mean that cheap clothing store. I would bet that there are now as many illegals in Miami-Dade County than legals, not to mention the jihad contingent.


25 posted on 08/16/2007 8:31:44 AM PDT by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: 3AngelaD; Joe Brower
“He also urged audience members to pin down the Republican candidates on immigration when they come to St. Petersburg for the YouTube/CNN Republican presidential debate Nov. 28... “

This is the only remark on the subject of immigration that Mel has made that I agree with.

26 posted on 08/16/2007 8:31:49 AM PDT by shove_it (nonilligitimus carborundum)
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To: 3AngelaD

The RNC passed a resolution calling on Republican candidates to embrace enforcement of our Immigration laws. The Republicans blocked the Amnesty plan and I had written them a $1000.00 check to mail off today... then I read this story this morning and tore the check up. I also wrote Mike Duncan a letter explaining this and suggested that perhaps they could get illegal invaders to donate funds to them... and I also told him that they must get rid of Mel if they want any $$$$$$$$$ from me again... EVER!

LLS


27 posted on 08/16/2007 8:34:11 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims!)
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To: 3AngelaD
Related thread:

GOP hits 2008 candidates on illegal aliens
  Posted by JKrive
On 08/16/2007 8:15:53 AM CDT · 63 replies · 761+ views


The Washington Times ^ | 8-16-07 | Stephan Dinan
The Republican Party's national chairman scolded his party's two top presidential candidates this week for their tough stance on illegal immigration, even as both men moved to try to one-up each other in calling for stricter enforcement. Sen. Mel Martinez of Florida, President Bush's handpicked choice for party chairman, chided former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney and former New York Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani for opposing and mischaracterizing the Senate immigration bill Mr. Martinez helped craft. "It's about leading on the tough issues," Mr. Martinez told the St. Petersburg Area Chamber of Commerce in comments first reported in yesterday's St. Petersburg...

28 posted on 08/16/2007 8:34:25 AM PDT by TomGuy
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the GOP starts threatening candidats they are finished for a generation. F.Thompson better take heed.

It is not a question of a malcontents, it is a question of why bother if republicans are going to do amnesty identical to democrats.

Mel Martinez MUST GO!!!!

Perhaps it is time for a FReep but who do we email? Does the GOP have a governing board?


29 posted on 08/16/2007 8:34:36 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: 3AngelaD

The amnesty expert Mel Martinez reading the riot act to anyone on the proper role for government on immigration policy for illegals is a sick joke. Rooty Toot is a two face liar and has always supported comprehensive liberal immigration reform. Romney seems to be on the right track on this issue.


30 posted on 08/16/2007 8:35:45 AM PDT by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: Right Cal Gal

I give the GOP a fair sized portion of the blame for the behavior of the democrats. The GOP used to act as an anchor on the right that prevented the democrats from getting too far out there on the left.

These days the GOP acts more like a stray dog picking up scraps as they follow the democrats ever leftward.


31 posted on 08/16/2007 8:36:01 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Greed is NOT a conservative ideal.)
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To: Nightshift; Joe Brower

ppping....

maybe the top GOP candidates dont’ agree with Mel on immigration....


32 posted on 08/16/2007 8:36:10 AM PDT by tutstar (Baptist Ping list - freepmail me to get on or off.)
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To: 3AngelaD

This is a fake argument.

Guilaini (who just said he supports path to citizenship amnesty) and Romney have tip toed around this issue.

Martinez is trying to give cover to the top two because they are the weakest on immigration. (McCain is DOA)


33 posted on 08/16/2007 8:36:26 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: 3AngelaD

Think banana republic, and I don’t mean that cheap clothing store

...I WISH it were still a cheap clothing store. At least then I KNEW where to get a pithe helmet in downtown S.F

Now it seems to be nothing but high-end “professional” clothes for the terminally skinny.


34 posted on 08/16/2007 8:37:08 AM PDT by Right Cal Gal (Remember Billy Dale!!!)
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To: NeoCaveman

“You are a one termer. It’s not totally your fault, your patron promoted you way over your head. He does that with people he likes.”

So true. I just want Bush and Mel to GO AWAY!

Bring on the FRED!


35 posted on 08/16/2007 8:39:37 AM PDT by RedOhioan
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To: 3AngelaD
"I don't want to in any way intervene in the primary process," Martinez said. "But at the same time, I have an obligation as a senator to speak about the issues..."

One more reason why it was a mistake to name this guy as the head of the RNC. Why is he leading the RNC exactly?
36 posted on 08/16/2007 8:40:02 AM PDT by Kerretarded (It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it- Aristotle)
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To: cripplecreek

Someone put it beautifully to me the other day — “it used to be about serving the public. Then it became a career. Now it’s about nothing but power - it must seem an incredible inconvenience to them to have to deign to deal with the masses to solicit votes from us every two or six years.”

It was nice when we fought back last month and reminded these jerks who was both - on BOTH sides of the aisle.


37 posted on 08/16/2007 8:40:05 AM PDT by Right Cal Gal (Remember Billy Dale!!!)
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I think Mel Martinez was appointed head of the RNC to outreach to Hispanic voters.

After this immigration bill mess, we may need Mel Martinez’s help more than ever.

40% of the hispanics voted GOP in 2004 in 2006 the number had dropped to 10%.

Folks we need to get those votes back to win the White House and Congress again.


38 posted on 08/16/2007 8:40:36 AM PDT by ClarenceThomasfan (I want President Bush to run for a third term!)
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I think Mel Martinez was appointed head of the RNC to outreach to Hispanic voters.

After this immigration bill mess, we may need Mel Martinez’s help more than ever.

40% of the hispanics voted GOP in 2004 in 2006 the number had dropped to 10%.

Folks we need to get those votes back to win the White House and Congress again.


39 posted on 08/16/2007 8:40:50 AM PDT by ClarenceThomasfan (I want President Bush to run for a third term!)
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To: Right Cal Gal

ahem....that should have been “who was BOSS”


40 posted on 08/16/2007 8:42:23 AM PDT by Right Cal Gal (Remember Billy Dale!!!)
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To: Right Cal Gal

The clothing is cheap, in both senses of the word. It is badly made. It fits me fine and looks good the first time I wear it, but does not stand up to laundering or dry cleaning. Substandard fabric, zippers die an early death, buttons pop off, seams not properly finished. Back to Nordstrom and Bloomingdale’s. Sorry about your dwindling pithe helmet supplies. That must ruin your safaris!


41 posted on 08/16/2007 8:43:45 AM PDT by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: 3AngelaD

I’m sick of open-borders traitors in my own party.


42 posted on 08/16/2007 8:45:52 AM PDT by DesScorp
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To: ClarenceThomasfan
...... we may need Mel Martinez’s help more than ever.

Let'em find someone who can appeal to Hispanic's without supporting amnesty and continued invasion over our wide open borders. Martinez has a pretty solid conservative record on many isues, just on the immigration reform issue. Kick the bum out!

43 posted on 08/16/2007 8:47:51 AM PDT by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: subterfuge
Didn't The Washington Times also have something like this?

Mel is a dishonest loser, somebody who lied big time to the voters.

44 posted on 08/16/2007 8:48:18 AM PDT by apocalypto
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To: longtermmemmory

We can only do so much , short of violence! Sugestion, I return all envelopes that are addressed back to any Repub. Org. that sends me a dunning letter. I shred what they send(requests for money/or questionaire)and retun it in their envelopes, that have prepaid postage. Also you can e-mail short and contrite messages to all of their offices. Let THEM know you are aware of their POSITIONS when they are not yours!!!SENOR MEL, VAMOOSE!!!!!


45 posted on 08/16/2007 8:49:35 AM PDT by GOYAKLA
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To: Right Cal Gal
In his first speech after being elected to the chairmanship, Martinez said, “What I am going to do over the next two years is assist our Party in a renewal of the principles that have made us great: lower taxes, limited government, individual responsibility, freedom here and abroad, and the power of faith. I am going to carry those principles to the American people, explaining why the Republican way of doing things is the best way to solve America’s problems …. I am going to concentrate on talking about a Republican Party that is the party of optimism, the party of the future, the party that stands for solutions to the American people’s problems. I want to describe my passion for a Party that speaks to America’s hopes, aspirations, and dreams. I want to lead the Party of a bright future.”

Then he slammed the American public for not liking the immigration bill.
46 posted on 08/16/2007 8:50:05 AM PDT by Kerretarded (It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it- Aristotle)
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To: GOYAKLA

The return postage paid thing is old hat.

We need to be louder with regards to Mel.

He may be outreach to hispanics but his is burning the core.


47 posted on 08/16/2007 8:54:37 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Right Cal Gal

I’m not as charged up about immigration issues as most here are, but I think Mel should resign from position of RNC chairman. We don’t need him attacking our candidates.


48 posted on 08/16/2007 8:59:35 AM PDT by mimaw
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To: ClarenceThomasfan

“After this immigration bill mess, we may need Mel Martinez’s help more than ever.

40% of the hispanics voted GOP in 2004 in 2006 the number had dropped to 10%.

Folks we need to get those votes back to win the White House and Congress again.”

That’s the kind of thinking that lost the Republicans the House and Senate.

The “do anything for votes” crowd is the one that has the party where it’s at today and it’s gonna take a purge of these types before we will ever get back the confidence of conservatives. Getting rid of the open border RHINOS will be a good start.


49 posted on 08/16/2007 9:03:26 AM PDT by RedOhioan
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To: kenmcg

Bush appointed this guy without any thought of what it would do to the Pubbies.

Correction.........Bush appointed this guy to help push BUSH’S open border/amnesty proposal through.


50 posted on 08/16/2007 9:09:07 AM PDT by sheana
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