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'Lunar Ark' Proposed In Case Of Deadly Impact On Earth
National Geographic ^ | 8-14-2007 | Kevin Holden Platt

Posted on 08/16/2007 2:57:05 PM PDT by blam

'Lunar Ark' Proposed in Case of Deadly Impact on Earth

Kevin Holden Platt
for National Geographic News

August 14, 2007

The moon should be developed as a sanctuary for civilization in case of a cataclysmic cosmic impact, according to an international team of experts.

NASA already has blueprints to create a permanent lunar outpost by the 2020s. (Read: "Moon Base Announced by NASA" [December 4, 2006].)

But that plan should be expanded to include a way to preserve humanity's learning, culture, and technology if Earth is hit by a doomsday asteroid or comet, said Jim Burke of International Space University (ISU) in France.

Burke, once a project manager on some of the earliest American lunar landings, now heads an ISU study on surviving a collision with a near-Earth object.

An impact of the size that wiped out the dinosaurs hasn't happened since long before the rise of humans, he pointed out.

Yet scientists' expanding knowledge of asteroids and craters left throughout the solar system has created a consensus that Earth remains vulnerable to a civilization-crushing collision.

This calls for the creation of a space age Noah's ark, Burke said.

Lunar Ark

Humans are just beginning to send trinkets of technology and culture into space. NASA's recently launched Phoenix Mars Lander, for example, carries a mini-disc inscribed with stories, art, and music about Mars.

The Phoenix lander is a "precursor mission" in a decades-long project to transplant the essentials of humanity onto the moon and eventually Mars. (See a photo gallery about the Phoenix mission.)

The International Space University team is now on a more ambitious mission: to start building a "lunar biological and historical archive," initially through robotic landings on the moon.

Laying the foundation for "rebuilding the terrestrial Internet, plus an Earth-moon extension of it, should be a priority," Burke said. The founders of the group Alliance to Rescue Civilization (ARC) agreed that extending the Internet from the Earth to the moon could help avert a technological dark age following "nuclear war, acts of terrorism, plague, or asteroid collisions." (Read: "Killer Asteroids: A Real But Remote Risk?" [June 19, 2003].)

But the group also advocates creating a moon-based repository of Earth's life, complete with human-staffed facilities to "preserve backups of scientific and cultural achievements and of the species important to our civilization," said ARC's Robert Shapiro, a biochemist at New York University.

"In the event of a global catastrophe, the ARC facilities will be prepared to reintroduce lost technology, art, history, crops, livestock, and, if necessary, even human beings to the Earth," Shapiro said.

ARC hopes to finance the planned moon outpost into a lunar ark of recovery in part through donations from billionaire philanthropists.

"The establishment of an ARC sanctuary would for the first time provide a compelling purpose for the colonization of space."

If the international lunar outpost of the 2020s expands into a colony and then a city, "it is possible that a whole new phase in civilization may develop—the branching of history into one stream on Earth and another on the moon," ISU's Burke added. (Read: "NASA Aims to Open Moon for Business" [July 25, 2006].)

This "dual-world expansion" could be within reach by the end of this century, he said.

"Look at the last century, when we went from the Wright brothers to the Apollo missions—along with man's great expansion of his understanding of the cosmos."

Plan B?

Kilian Engel, an instructor at the International Space University who is involved in post-doomsday research, said the lunar archive is actually Plan B.

"Plan A involves creating an international network of astronomers to scan space for asteroids and comets that might threaten Earth, a global task force to formulate a strategy to prevent impacts with the planet, and a new generation of spacecraft to carry out these missions," Engel said.

More awareness of the danger posed by asteroids and comets is now spreading across the United States and the world.

In 2005 Congress directed NASA to figure out how to survey space for threatening near-Earth objects, as well as how to develop spacecraft to deflect or shoot them out of space.

Yet NASA receives less than five million U.S. dollars per year to conduct this "Spaceguard Survey," which is aimed at finding near-Earth objects greater than 0.62 mile (a kilometer) in diameter.

NASA has reviewed options that range from building titanic space tugboats to nudge asteroids off a collision course with Earth to crashing "kinectic impactors" into an oncoming comet. (Related: "'Killer Asteroid' Debate Pits Gravity Tractors Against Bombs, Projectiles" [March 8, 2007].)

Nuke Option

In March 2007 researchers at NASA's Near-Earth Object Program released a report that said nuclear explosions are ten to a hundred times more effective in diverting killer asteroids than non-nuclear alternatives.

Even so, "30 to 80 percent of potentially hazardous near-Earth objects are in orbits that are beyond the capability of current or planned launch systems," the report said.

And even if NASA eventually develops a nuclear-tipped, anti-asteroid launch vehicle, rocketing hydrogen bombs into space "is prohibited by the Outer Space Treaty of 1967," ISU's Burke said.

That UN-brokered treaty prohibits the deployment of nuclear weapons in Earth orbit, in outer space, or on any other celestial body.

Yet as astronomers across the globe piece together predictions on potential asteroids of mass destruction, UN members could vote to amend the space treaty to prepare a nuclear response to such threats.


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How many have wondered if maybe we haven't already done this once in the ancient past?
1 posted on 08/16/2007 2:57:08 PM PDT by blam
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2 posted on 08/16/2007 2:58:28 PM PDT by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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This calls for the creation of a space age Noah's ark, Burke said.

The difference, of course, is that this federally-funded project will place two gay men on the ark to meet its diversity quota.

3 posted on 08/16/2007 3:00:20 PM PDT by NittanyLion
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4 posted on 08/16/2007 3:02:01 PM PDT by rfp1234 (Nothing is better than eternal happiness. A ham sandwich is better than nothing. Therefore...)
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To: NittanyLion

LOL!


5 posted on 08/16/2007 3:02:02 PM PDT by saganite (Billions and billions and billions----and that's just the NASA budget!)
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6 posted on 08/16/2007 3:03:14 PM PDT by Red Badger (All I know about Minnesota, I learned from Garrison Keilor..................)
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To: Red Badger

Eagle One to Alpha...


7 posted on 08/16/2007 3:04:40 PM PDT by mgstarr
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To: blam

8 posted on 08/16/2007 3:05:22 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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NASA has reviewed options that range from building titanic space tugboats to nudge asteroids off a collision course with Earth to crashing “kinectic impactors” into an oncoming comet.
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may not work as most asteroids are apparently flying rock piles held together by gravity and/or ice.


9 posted on 08/16/2007 3:05:39 PM PDT by ari-freedom (I am for traditional moral values, a strong national defense, and free markets.)
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To: mgstarr

Come in Eagle one......

10 posted on 08/16/2007 3:06:29 PM PDT by Red Badger (All I know about Minnesota, I learned from Garrison Keilor..................)
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"preserve backups of scientific and cultural achievements and of the species important to our civilization,"Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket
11 posted on 08/16/2007 3:06:38 PM PDT by rfp1234 (Nothing is better than eternal happiness. A ham sandwich is better than nothing. Therefore...)
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To: blam
"It vould not be difficult, mein Fuehrer! ... Heh, heh ... I mean, Mr. President."
12 posted on 08/16/2007 3:08:16 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: blam

I certainly believe we have done this several times over.


13 posted on 08/16/2007 3:09:06 PM PDT by Siobhan (An official opponent of the Union of North America)
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To: blam

I think the Bhagavata Purana and some of the other Sanskrit scriptures make this likely, blam. In the Hebrew Scriptures it is written in Qoheleth (Ecclesiastes 1:9) “That which has been is that which will be, And that which has been done is that which will be done. So there is nothing new under the sun.” I have taken that particular Hebrew writing as a touchstone for interpreting the world and the myth of progress as currently embraced.


14 posted on 08/16/2007 3:13:31 PM PDT by Siobhan (An official opponent of the Union of North America)
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To: blam
In March 2007 researchers at NASA's Near-Earth Object Program released a report that said nuclear explosions are ten to a hundred times more effective in diverting killer asteroids than non-nuclear alternatives.

Even so, "30 to 80 percent of potentially hazardous near-Earth objects are in orbits that are beyond the capability of current or planned launch systems," the report said.

And even if NASA eventually develops a nuclear-tipped, anti-asteroid launch vehicle, rocketing hydrogen bombs into space "is prohibited by the Outer Space Treaty of 1967," ISU's Burke said.

That UN-brokered treaty prohibits the deployment of nuclear weapons in Earth orbit, in outer space, or on any other celestial body.


Quite frankly, the threat of annihilation by a meteor or comet strike is more real than the threat of our civilization crumbling under global warming - we know that such strikes have caused mass extinctions on the earth before. The US should be developing the monitoring, missile and nuclear weapons technology needed to prevent this threat. And screw the UN.
15 posted on 08/16/2007 3:14:59 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: blam
An arc ~ a repository, maybe even a self-repairing mass data storage device ~ Has this been done before?

Hexgon on Saturn: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1807602/posts

Saturn Rings Have Atmosphere: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1869570/posts

DNA Shaped Dust In Saturn's Rings?: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1879563/posts

16 posted on 08/16/2007 3:22:48 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: AnotherUnixGeek
Late Pleostocene Human Population Bottlenecks. . . (Toba)

"The six year long volcanic winter and 1000-year-long instant Ice Age that followed Mount Toba's eruption may have decimated Modern Man's entire population. Genetic evidence suggests that Human population size fell to about 10,000 adults between 50 and 100 thousand years ago. The survivors from this global catastrophy would have found refuge in isolated tropical pockets, mainly in Equatorial Africa. Populations living in Europe and northern China would have been completely eliminated by the reduction of the summer temperatures by as much as 12 degrees centigrade.

17 posted on 08/16/2007 3:24:52 PM PDT by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: blam
But that plan should be expanded to include a way to preserve humanity's learning, culture, and technology if Earth is hit by a doomsday asteroid or comet, said Jim Burke of International Space University (ISU) in France.

About the only technology we will need for a while is how to make more humans to replace those left behind. We've pretty much perfected that process and it does NOT include two astronauts named Adam & Steve!

18 posted on 08/16/2007 3:28:31 PM PDT by Knute (Tell me again ONE good reason I'm living here in Wisconsin??)
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To: Red Badger

I remembered watching that as a kid, cool at the time. Watch it today, it is a peek into the culture of the 1970’s even the 1960’s with the psychedelic planets with references to drugs, hair styles and clothes.


19 posted on 08/16/2007 3:32:42 PM PDT by CORedneck
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To: CORedneck

I watched it as a college age guy and I thought it was cool.......at the time............


20 posted on 08/16/2007 3:35:51 PM PDT by Red Badger (All I know about Minnesota, I learned from Garrison Keilor..................)
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To: blam
What always gets me is that the U.S. has secret bunkers to protect our politicians in case of a nuke attack. So that our government can go on while we're smoking rubble. I find that funny. Like I really want to go out of my way to see to it that Ted Kennedy is whisked away in a limo to his waiting food-filled bunker. Let's make sure all these freaks like Edwards and the Clintons make it. Be a real shame if they were hurt.
21 posted on 08/16/2007 3:36:12 PM PDT by 14themunny
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To: Red Badger

I loved that show!


22 posted on 08/16/2007 3:42:20 PM PDT by WakeUpAndVote (Got Towel?)
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To: blam
"In the event of a global catastrophe, the ARC facilities will be prepared to reintroduce lost technology, art, history, crops, livestock, and, if necessary, even human beings to the Earth,"

Just as likely they'll wait however many years or decades it takes until the smoke clears (literally) and then come back to conquer the few humans remaining on the planet.

23 posted on 08/16/2007 3:43:21 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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on the other hand humans have pretty much perfected the process to destroy civilization without asteroids. It’s called liberalism and Islam.


24 posted on 08/16/2007 3:43:28 PM PDT by ari-freedom (I am for traditional moral values, a strong national defense, and free markets.)
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Actually, we need three arks.

On the first ark (the ‘A’ ark), we can put all the adventurers, heroes, and builders of society.

The second ark (the ‘B’ ark) can contain the various middle men; the telephone sanitizers, salesmen, fashion consultants, etc.

On the third ark (the ‘C’ ark), we can put all the scientists, engineers, and thinkers that make society go.

Then we just need to make certain the ‘B’ ark is sent first so that everything will be ready when the other two arks arrive.


25 posted on 08/16/2007 3:44:35 PM PDT by Vroomfondel
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To: blam
As long as we get to wear cool clothes like these, I'm all for it!!

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26 posted on 08/16/2007 3:45:16 PM PDT by Jackknife ( "The Bureau of Alcohol,Tobacco, and Firearms should be a department store, not a gov't agency.")
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Teds bunker will have copious amounts of Scotch -- or Gin!

If it comes to having to protect our congresional leaders, I say let them all jump into their cars and head out of DC ... the ones with the biggest and best will make it!

27 posted on 08/16/2007 3:46:34 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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I built a model of the Eagle in the 70’s, but I don’t think it was that company.


28 posted on 08/16/2007 3:46:51 PM PDT by Jackknife ( "The Bureau of Alcohol,Tobacco, and Firearms should be a department store, not a gov't agency.")
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HEY! If the moon was made of spare ribs, would'ja eat it?
29 posted on 08/16/2007 3:49:23 PM PDT by SquirrelKing ("Ocean in view! O! The joy!" - William Clark, December 3rd, 1805)
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To: SunkenCiv

Catastrophism Ping.


30 posted on 08/16/2007 3:50:53 PM PDT by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: Vroomfondel

DON’T PANIC!


31 posted on 08/16/2007 3:52:43 PM PDT by Siobhan (An official opponent of the Union of North America)
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To: blam

In a matter of weeks, sufficient improvements
for a dwelling space could be provided.

PRESIDENT MUFFLEY
But they couldn’t come out for a hundred
years!

VON KLUTZ
(smiling wisely)
Mister President, man is an amazingly adaptable
creature. After all, the conditions would be
far superior to those, say, of the Nazi concentration
camps, where there is ample evidence most of the
wretched creatures clung desperately to life.

Although the PRESIDENT seems unconvinced, looking around the
room, it is apparent VON KLUTZ’s proposal has not fallen upon
deaf ears.

VON KLUTZ
(smiling modestly)
It would not be difficult. Nuclear reactors
could provide power almost indefinitely.
Greenhouses could maintain plant life.
Animals could be bred and slaughtered.
A quick survey would have to be made of all
the suitable minesites in the country, but
I shouldn’t be surprised if several hundred
thousand of our people could be accomodatedd.
Every nation would undoubtedly follow suit.

PRESIDENT MUFFLEY
But who would be chosen?

VON KLUTZ
A special committee would have to be appointed
to study and recommend the criteria to be
employed, but off-hand, I should say that in
addition to the factors of youth, health, sexual
fertility, intelligence, and a cross-section of
necessary skills, it would be absolutely vital
that our top government and military men be
included, to impart the required principles of
leadership and tradition.

The arrow has not missed its mark, and there is an outbreak of
sober, nodding heads.

VON KLUTZ
(laughs, distastefully)
Naturally, they would breed prodigiously, eh?
There would be much time and little to do.
With the proper breeding techniques, and starting
with a ratio of, say, ten women to each man,
I should estimate the progeny of the original
group of 200,000 would emerge a hundred years
later as well over a hundred million. Naturally
the group would have to continually engage in
enlarging the original living space.

Much serious judgment is brought to bear around the table. Pencils
are brought into action.

VON KLUTZ
When they emerge, a good deal of present real
estate and machine tools will still be recoverable,
if they are moth-balled in advance. I would guess
they could then work their way back to our present
gross national product within twenty years.

PRESIDENT MUFFLEY
But, look here, Von Klutz. Won’t this nucleus
of survivors be so shocked, grief-stricken, and
anguished that they will envy the dead, and indeed,
not wish to go on living?

VON KLUTZ
Certainly not, sir. When they go down into the
mine, everyone else will still be alive. They will
have no shocking memories, and the prevailing
emotion should be one of a nostalgia for those

VON KLUTZ (Cont)
left behind, combined with a spirit of bold
curiousity for the adventure ahead.

GENERAL SCHMUCK
(judiciously)
You mentioned the ratio of ten women to each
man. Wouldn’t that necessitate abandoning the
so-called monogamous form of sexual relation-
ship?

VON KLUTZ
Regrettably, yes. But it is a sacrifice required
for the future of the human race. I hasten to
add that since each man will be required to
perform prodigious service along these lines,
the women will have to be selected for their
sexual characteristics, which will have to be
of a highly stimulating order.

AMBASSADOR DE SADE
(enthusiastically)
Von Klutz, I must confess you have an astonish-
ingly good idea there.


32 posted on 08/16/2007 3:54:32 PM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestu s globus, inflammare animos)
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To: blam

No “Space 1999” references?


33 posted on 08/16/2007 3:57:42 PM PDT by Does so
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To: blam
Not to hijack this thread, but this is what really annoys me about the Jihadists. We crush the Nazis, defeat communism, become the sole superpower, and it looked like clear sailing. We could be doing really interesting and cool things like this, not to mention health sciences, etc...when WHAM some stone age ^%&*$#s murder 3,000 of our citizens and we have to get involved in a swamp draining exercise that will take several generations.

Imagine what we could have done if it wasn't for these murdering scum.

34 posted on 08/16/2007 4:01:54 PM PDT by MattinNJ (I'm pulling for Fred Thompson and Duncan Hunter-...but I'd vote for Rudy against Hillary)
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No hijacking here. Recall the old joke: “Why are there no Muslims on ‘Star Trek’? “Because it’s set in the future...”


35 posted on 08/16/2007 4:09:21 PM PDT by Old Sarge (This tagline in memory of FReeper 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub)
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To: blam

Anything that is going to impact the earth to that degree has a pretty good chance of causing serious collateral damage to the Moon as well.

I say further - like Alpha Centauri.


36 posted on 08/16/2007 4:09:51 PM PDT by alloysteel (Never attribute to ignorance that which is adequately explained by stupidity.)
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To: Old Sarge
No hijacking here. Recall the old joke: “Why are there no Muslims on ‘Star Trek’? “Because it’s set in the future...”

That is a horrible, un-PC joke. Which is why it's so funny.

37 posted on 08/16/2007 4:13:43 PM PDT by Disambiguator (What's the temperature, Albert?)
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To: blam
the ARC facilities will be prepared to reintroduce lost technology, art, history, crops, livestock, and, if necessary, even human beings to the Earth

Tradition says this has been done before in some form. Although the records seem to have ended up in religious text, the story of Superman is exactly this story. Now that the do-nothing generation is beginning to retire, perhaps the next generations can see the way clear to develop outer space, which is the way this should be done rather than creating some ludicrously inadequate preservation colony on the moon. The best way to develop outer space is to repeal the Treaty and free up investment capital.

38 posted on 08/16/2007 4:16:51 PM PDT by RightWhale (It's Brecht's donkey, not mine)
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To: blam
the ARC facilities will be prepared to reintroduce lost technology, art, history, crops, livestock, and, if necessary, even human beings to the Earth

Tradition says this has been done before in some form. Although the records seem to have ended up in religious text, the story of Superman is exactly this story. Now that the do-nothing generation is beginning to retire, perhaps the next generations can see the way clear to develop outer space, which is the way this should be done rather than creating some ludicrously inadequate preservation colony on the moon. The best way to develop outer space is to repeal the Treaty and free up investment capital.

39 posted on 08/16/2007 4:28:59 PM PDT by RightWhale (It's Brecht's donkey, not mine)
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Your post crashed the server.


40 posted on 08/16/2007 4:31:04 PM PDT by HAL9000 (http://LinksToNewsSources.GooglePages.com)
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To: blam; Millee; carlr; Maximus of Texas; EX52D; StephenTX; wallcrawlr; Auntbee; Shimmer128; ...
It ain't if, campers... It is when!

And the sooner we realize that, the sooner we get this done.

41 posted on 08/16/2007 4:35:59 PM PDT by Bender2 (I'd feel a helluva lot better if just one of them had ever run for Country Sheriff.)
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To: blam

And what happens when our own sun eventually vaporizes the entire solar system?


42 posted on 08/16/2007 4:38:15 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: finnman69

I assume your post is Kubricks original script, where Strangelove was called Von Klutz?


43 posted on 08/16/2007 4:49:40 PM PDT by SolidWood
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To: blam
"How many have wondered if maybe we haven't already done this once in the ancient past?" Well, Master Chief believes.
44 posted on 08/16/2007 5:18:11 PM PDT by BigBlueJon (Superman wears Jack Bauer pajamas to bed.......Jack Bauer wears George W pajamas.)
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To: ari-freedom
Humans have pretty much perfected the process to destroy civilization without asteroids. It’s called liberalism and Islam.

Those and moral relativism, fairness, the entitlement mentality, "political correctness", whatever THAT oxymoron is supposed to mean... and other nuggets of supposed wisdom that are now accepted by large numbers in our culture!

45 posted on 08/16/2007 5:26:43 PM PDT by Knute (Tell me again ONE good reason I'm living here in Wisconsin??)
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To: blam
Have they wondered what would happen if the moon were hit by a killer asteroid instead?
46 posted on 08/16/2007 5:44:37 PM PDT by vigilante2 (Thank You Troops)
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To: blam

I thought Stargate Command had already set-up the Alpha Site.


47 posted on 08/16/2007 5:46:51 PM PDT by toddlintown (Six bullets and Lennon goes down. Yet not one hit Yoko. Discuss.)
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To: vigilante2

48 posted on 08/16/2007 5:48:42 PM PDT by ari-freedom (I am for traditional moral values, a strong national defense, and free markets.)
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To: Old Sarge

I’ll have to steal this one.


49 posted on 08/16/2007 5:49:10 PM PDT by toddlintown (Six bullets and Lennon goes down. Yet not one hit Yoko. Discuss.)
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To: Knute

yes we have to actually have a culture before it can be destroyed. The culture of paris hilton and britney isn’t really worth saving. Along with perhaps 90% of the internet.


50 posted on 08/16/2007 5:51:27 PM PDT by ari-freedom (I am for traditional moral values, a strong national defense, and free markets.)
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