Posted on 08/17/2007 4:10:03 AM PDT by IrishMike
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A majority of Americans don't trust the upcoming report by the Army's top commander in Iraq on the progress of the war and even if they did, it wouldn't change their mind, according to a new poll.
President Bush frequently has asked Congress -- and the American people -- to withhold judgment on his so-called troop surge in Iraq until Gen. David Petraeus, the commander in Iraq, and Ryan Crocker, U.S. ambassador to Iraq, issue their progress report in September.
But according to a CNN/Opinion Research Corp. poll released Thursday, 53 percent of people polled said they suspect that the military assessment of the situation will try to make it sound better than it actually is. Forty-three percent said they do trust the report.
CNN Polling Director Keating Holland said he doesn't think the mistrust is directed at Petreaus as much as it is what he represents.
Holland said, "I suspect most people are hearing the words 'general' and 'Iraq' and that's what they're basing their opinion on."
He added, "It does seem to indicate that anyone associated with the Bush administration may be a less than credible messenger for the message that there is progress being made in Iraq."
(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...
The people here without credibility are the drive by.
More Pollpaganda.
Here is a breakdown of the CNN slime job -
CNN released a new opinion poll today, and it appears that the slime campaign on General David Petraeus has now officially begun with a month to go before his report to Congress. CNN claimed on their Situation Room that only 28% of responders would be more likely to support the war if Petraeus reports the surge is showing signs of progress, 72% wouldn’t. And worse news, if one were to believe this poll, only 43% of those polled trusted Petraeus to give an accurate report in September, while 53% said they don’t trust the top U.S. military commander in Iraq.
Now let’s dive into the numbers a bit, to see how trusted this poll ought to be. The sample given by CNN is 1,029 Americans, with no political idenfitication given, taken over a three day period from the first part of August. Question 24 is the first question CNN released, which is:
24. Do you favor or oppose the U.S. war in Iraq? 24a. Is your mind made up about the war in Iraq or do you think you could change your mind?
Aug. 6-8
2007
Favor/mind made up 21%
Favor/could change mind 12%
Oppose/could change mind 17%
Oppose/mind made up 47%
No opinion 3%
So a total of 50%, if you include the supporters and those who state they could change their mind on Iraq are reported among the 1,029 sample. This actually might not be a bad number. But look what happens when you get to the stats against Petraeus and his upcoming report that CNN ran with.
32. As you may know, in September the top U.S. commander in Iraq will report to the President and Congress about how the war is going. If he reports that the U.S. is making progress, would that make you more likely to support the war, or would that have no effect on your view of the war? (ASKED OF HALF SAMPLE)
Aug. 6-8
2007
More likely to support the war 28%
No effect on your view of the war 72%
No opinion *
33. As you may know, in September the top U.S. commander in Iraq will report to the President and Congress about how the war is going. Do you trust him to report what’s really going on in Iraq without making the situation sound better than it actually is, or don’t you feel that way? (ASKED OF HALF SAMPLE)
Aug. 6-8
2007
Trust him to report what’s really going on 43%
Do not trust him to report what’s really going on 53%
No opinion 4%
Only half the sample was asked on each question, bringing the sample size of a U.S. population of 300 million people down to a little over 500 people. Which 500 were asked this question? Were only the left-leaning respondents asked the question on Petraeus? Why weren’t all respondents asked all the same questions? Would the results have been different? Why would CNN tout a 1,029 sample size when they really didn’t use a sample size that big to ask the juicy questions, the ones they’re manipulating to try and turn the tide against a positive Petraues report to Congress a month before he gives it?
I don’t trust CNN to not play around with the poll numbers. Until they cough up the rest of the methodology and questions, like which half they popped the full set of questions on, or if the full set were asked of the full sample size, why only half were used in certain questions, it’s a propaganda poll to push CNN’s agenda to declare defeat in Iraq no matter what the cost.
Show us the political ideology of who the half sample is, and the political ideology of the full sample size, and show a little transparency in the polling process if you want it to be believed. It’s hard to take a poll seriously when on the one hand, 50% can support the war or say they’re open minded to change their mind, and then in the next breath say 72% wouldn’t change their mind on Iraq regardles of what General Petraeus might say, because most people don’t trust him anyway. It’s a contradiction that busts this poll. CNN ought to have seen if it they wanted to be fair, but then again, CNN is not in the fair business.
So the drivebuy is saying we don’t trust the troops, since they work for GW
I think flopping ages has a take down on this poll and how it falsified the results....here is a link, in case you are interested:
http://www.floppingaces.net/2007/08/16/cnn-backing-the-democratsshock/
The MSM is afraid we are winning. The stories around a positive report will not be how well we are doing, but can we trust them. When push comes to shove, the MSM can not hide their blatant bias.
When push comes to shove, the MSM can not hide their blatant bias.
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Like booing in the news room during the State of the Union address ?
They have moved beyond bias and now are openly pushing DNC propaganda. It is simply false reporting, no bias, just outright blatant lies.
Opinion Research Corp. is a blatant “Hillary for President” front. Vinod Gupta is Chairman/CEO, or major poo bah of ORC, and a huge friend and ally of the Clinton’s.
I don’t pay attention to polls as it is, but anything out of ORC/CNN definitely not worth the time.
WOW so basically America is saying if the military says they got the job done we won’t believe them because they work for Bush. The Damage that the Democrats have done to this nation appears insurmountable....
Exactly! What's the credibility level that cnn has?
My guess is that it's lower than congress' credibility which is just about as low as whale dung.
Whale dung being almost as low as the NYT.
Thanks for your hard work in exposing this crap poll
This basically the same crap Reid was spouting the other day.
They are laying the ground work to dismiss the report IF it shows any progress.
Disgusting!
This poll only represents the opinions of the 1029 people surveyed but is reported as how the majority of Americans think. Why don’t they survey the rest of the 301+ million of us and then report the results ?
Isn’t their pollster Hillary’s buddy?
I think they only polled CNN employees.
Yep, see post #10.
Let us forget this bias poll for a moment. It does not matter a bit because the President gets his power from the Constitution not from public opinions polls. Thanks the Lord that President Bush understands this and he will do the right thing which to keep fighting the war until we win, and does not give a damn about the opinion polls. He proved time and again that when it comes to the war on terror he is a LEADER not a knee jerk politician and we should thank God for this everyday.
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