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Depression is over-diagnosed, psychiatrist claims
Guardian ^ | August 17, 2007 | David Batty and agencies

Posted on 08/17/2007 12:11:03 PM PDT by Kaslin

Too many people are being diagnosed with depression when they are merely unhappy, a senior psychiatrist said today.

Normal emotions are sometimes being treated as mental illness because the threshold for clinical depression is too low, according to Professor Gordon Parker.

Prof Parker said depression had become a "catch-all" diagnosis, driven by clever marketing from pharmaceutical companies and leading to the burgeoning prescription of antidepressant drugs.

Writing in the British Medical Journal (BMJ), he said the drugs were being marketed beyond their "true utility" in cases in which people were unhappy rather than clinically depressed.

(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: chaching; depression; followthemoney; mentalhealth; psychiatry
I think the professor hit the nail square on the head
1 posted on 08/17/2007 12:11:04 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

2 posted on 08/17/2007 12:13:41 PM PDT by eyedigress
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To: Kaslin

The author may be Batty, but he’s right.


3 posted on 08/17/2007 12:14:20 PM PDT by Piranha
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To: Kaslin
Depression is over-diagnosed, psychiatrist claims

Well now, that's just depressing....

4 posted on 08/17/2007 12:14:22 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Kaslin

“Under the current diagnosis guidelines, around one in five adults is thought to suffer depression during their lifetime,” he said hopelessly.


5 posted on 08/17/2007 12:17:05 PM PDT by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: Piranha

It may just be that people want to be diagnosed as suffering from depression, rather than fight the root of their unhappiness. Much like how many tend to blame their obesity on “glandular disorders” or “slow metabolism”.


6 posted on 08/17/2007 12:18:06 PM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: Kaslin
The point is - there is a difference between "being depressed" and "clinical depression".

But people demand a quick fix for all that afflicts them. Feeling a bit blue? Pop a pill and feel great.

Reminds me of Soma from a Aldous Huxley's Brave New World

with some overtones of 1984...

7 posted on 08/17/2007 12:23:47 PM PDT by TheBattman (I've got TWO QUESTIONS for you....)
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To: TheBattman
The point is - there is a difference between "being depressed" and "clinical depression".

That's a good distinction and one that, as the author notes, is not always respected in practice. As with numerous other diagnoses, major depression requires significant impairment of functioning, not just feeling unhappy.

8 posted on 08/17/2007 12:31:27 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: TheBattman
In order to know what you’ve got these days, you have to watch the TV commercials. Then go to your doctor and get the pill that’s right for whatever you have diagnosed yourself as having. So, to expand upon the doctor’s point, what if you are just unhappy at the moment, and put yourself on mind altering drugs that turn you into someone completely different (I’ve seen this happen) and that other self is just as unhappy? Do you then take pills for split personality, one for your former unhappy self and one for your present unhappy self?

Most times, it only takes a little bit to make people snap out of unhappiness, I have found. Take a walk through a zoo or volunteer with children. Pills are not the answer, most of the time.

9 posted on 08/17/2007 12:34:49 PM PDT by ishabibble (ALL-AMERICAN INFIDEL)
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To: Kaslin
He has a valid point. I have heard people describe those who are grieving as being depressed as well as people who are just unhappy over a situation for a week or two as being depressed. Neither situation qualifies as clinical depression.
10 posted on 08/17/2007 12:37:41 PM PDT by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghan Honor Roll students.)
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To: Kaslin

He’s right. The 1930’s have been gone a long time.


11 posted on 08/17/2007 12:38:56 PM PDT by Mumbles (Because we disagree doesn't make you or me right. Treat each other with respect.)
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To: Kaslin
I'm not depressed but I do have hypertension.

I understand that I could claim disability, go home and relax - watch a ballgame and drink a beer - while my neighbors, friends and other unknown taxpayers support me and my family.

Well not me really, some consumer-nonproducer I saw on Judge Judy.

12 posted on 08/17/2007 12:41:32 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Kaslin

Little Tommy is deeply saddened

am I the first?

13 posted on 08/17/2007 12:43:25 PM PDT by TC Rider (The United States Constitution ? 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: eyedigress

A little scotch on the rocks with some nice female company does it for me.


14 posted on 08/17/2007 12:45:27 PM PDT by Lee Heggy123
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To: Kaslin

I think you are so right.

But there’s nothing to be gained by this admission.

Nowadays, there’s all sorts of pills to treat depression. Has anybody seen that commercial for depression medicine?

It shows a woman standing by a sink. She gazes sadly out a window over that sink then puts her weary head in her hands. Flash to another scene. A dog looks sadly at its owner. The dog’s leash hangs unused from the dog’s mouth; the owner evidently too depressed to take the dog for a walk.

This sort of advertising should be a damn sin.

Everyone feels SAD, unhappy, disappointed...yea all the bad emotions...from time to time.

Those in our world who stand to benefit from a populace convinced that they suffer from depression, which would include shrinks of any kind, the drug companies, government bureaucrats who refer “depressed” people without health insurance to government programs and people who look to the above to cope with ordinary life problems-WANT depression to grow and flourish.

Happiness and contentment are the enemy.


15 posted on 08/17/2007 12:48:58 PM PDT by Fishtalk (http://patfish.blogspot.com)
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To: ishabibble
Pills (Parody of "Smiles" from the Broadway musical "The Passing Show Of 1918") by Allen Sherman
16 posted on 08/17/2007 12:48:59 PM PDT by C210N
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To: ishabibble

“Most times, it only takes a little bit to make people snap out of unhappiness, I have found. Take a walk through a zoo or volunteer with children. Pills are not the answer, most of the time.”

Great answers. I also love to walk alongside or just look at the ocean or even a Great Lake - it calms me down for some reason.

And on a really strange note - I love air travel!...I like going to the airport...checking your bags..even going through the metal detector and TSA check...getting to your destination in one piece is good too! But going back on the airplane to go home I get a little sad for some reason - return to normal routine I guess.


17 posted on 08/17/2007 1:02:37 PM PDT by bunches (Irish people enjoy whimsical humor)
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To: Kaslin

I’ve had depression off and on all my life. I did the drug routine for a time and had some therapy till the insurance ran out. The drugs made me woozy and incoherent. I can be woozy and incoherent without drugs. Got rid of them.

Best treatment is exercise. Even a brief walk around the block does it for me.


18 posted on 08/17/2007 1:19:46 PM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: Fishtalk

“Those in our world who stand to benefit from a populace convinced that they suffer from depression, which would include shrinks of any kind, the drug companies, government bureaucrats who refer “depressed” people without health insurance to government programs and people who look to the above to cope with ordinary life problems-WANT depression to grow and flourish.”

A good shrink, of which I believe I am one, doesnt automatically encourage anti-depressants. As a psycholgist I cannot. Only med drs and psychiatrists can do that.

I do exactly what some folks here suggest...”prescribe” exercise, positive activities esp re; their families, calling/visiting friends, etc.

Another part of my “job”, should the client agree, is to teach them the signs of their depression and how to “prevent” it from returning. These may include any of the symptoms used in the diagnosis. For example...many folk with depression withdraw into themselves and become stuck in their own misery. The prescription, force yourself to go out with friends, call friends, and go exercise.

IMHO some people tend to “use” mental illness as a way to get attention, get needs met, etc. I teach them how to do this w/o meds. I teach them how to “fish” vs giving them a fish (meds).


19 posted on 08/17/2007 1:49:38 PM PDT by crazyshrink
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To: crazyshrink

Therapy can help to some extent...I did however have one who, no matter what my problem of the week was, blamed my parents. My folks had their “issues” but they did the best they could, as did most parents. There comes a time when you have to stop blaming the parents and take the responsibility for your own situation. That was the kind of therapist I was looking for and the ones I had after this “blame the parents” therapist were much better at getting me to take care of myself.


20 posted on 08/17/2007 1:56:50 PM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: Kaslin
Depression is over-diagnosed, psychiatrist claims

I suspect that those who are mis-diagnosed shouldn't be told.
Because once they realize they've just had a cash-ectomy for
a non-existent malady...
that should be enough to really depress them!
21 posted on 08/17/2007 2:19:00 PM PDT by VOA
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To: Kaslin

I totally agree.


22 posted on 08/17/2007 2:25:26 PM PDT by ContraryMary (New Jersey -- Superfund cleanup capital of the U.S.A.)
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To: fatnotlazy

You’re probably right!

The best cure for depression (unhappiness), is doing something.


23 posted on 08/17/2007 2:30:50 PM PDT by MikeHu
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To: ishabibble

“In order to know what you’ve got these days, you have to watch the TV commercials.”

You might appreciate this hilarious offering from YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZPZG92iYE4


24 posted on 08/17/2007 2:32:54 PM PDT by Califreak (Go Hunter!)
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To: Kaslin
I have had some depression recently, based on 1) my husband's health problems (kidney failure/dialysis) 2) my health problems (growing older) 3) my job falling apart and my company sending good jobs to India and Brazil. My medical doctor asked if I would like an anti-depressant, based on the fact that none of the conditions I listed above are going to change any time soon, and I 'need something to take the edge off' and help me deal with situations I can't change.

This is a classic case, I think, of over-prescribing anti-depressants. At any rate, I refused, as I don't want to be a drugged-up zombie. I'd rather be depressed and teary and bitchy than an unresponsive lump.

Anyway, long story made short, and the point of the story, I went to my ladies' doctor who prescribed an increased dose of my hormone replacement drug. Within 3 days I was better on all fronts.

Moral? Maybe if you're a 50ish woman think about hormone replacement (if possible) first before accepting psychoactive drugs.

25 posted on 08/17/2007 2:33:54 PM PDT by WarEagle (Can America survive a President named Hussein?)
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To: Kaslin

Not everyone can be happy all the time. A lot of people just need to get over it!


26 posted on 08/17/2007 2:48:38 PM PDT by LooneyTick69
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To: Kaslin

gee, ya don’t say...:
http://www.ajc.com/health/content/shared-auto/healthnews/emot/607359.html


27 posted on 08/17/2007 3:07:11 PM PDT by PissAndVinegar
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To: Kaslin
Depression is over-diagnosed

This is because doctors have a drug that can be prescribed for unhappiness. By simply diagnosing depression and prescribing some random anti-depressant, the doctor can spend even less time listening to the patient.

And unlike pain killers, the feds don't care if anti-depressants are over-prescribed.

The best thing is to never get sick so you never have to see the doctor. And if someone say, "Oh you're looking peaked today, are you feeling okay?" just deck them and ask them "how peaked am I looking now?" Especially if you're feeling fine because it's better to go to jail on an assault beef then to have someone tamper with your health by putting suggestions of ill health in your mind.

/sarcasm /satire /flamebait /nested sarcasm /goto 10

28 posted on 08/17/2007 4:06:54 PM PDT by Duke Nukum (...no more I follow, no more obedience pay.)
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To: Kaslin

Oh, no, but depression like gambling and alcoholism is a “DISEASE” that you can catch from a dirty toilet seat. Remember children to wash your hands often!


29 posted on 08/17/2007 4:10:10 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (We all need someone we can bleed on...)
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To: Duke Nukum

On a kinder note, I guess it is better to over-prescribe anti-depressants then those other modern day blunder drugs, the, um...antibiotics for things like the common cold.

I saw the Tic fight the common cold once and he never used an antibiotic to do it.


30 posted on 08/17/2007 4:11:46 PM PDT by Duke Nukum (...no more I follow, no more obedience pay.)
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To: HamiltonJay
Well now, that's just depressing....

Especially if you own stock in pharmacutical companies.

31 posted on 08/17/2007 4:12:22 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: Kaslin

I got flamed here a couple of days ago after suggesting that depression caused by life’s circumstances cannot be cured with talk therapy or pills, citing an example of a man on a desert island, whom you cannot advise to “volunteer with children”, “go out with friends”, etc. If you don’t have friends, who are you going to go out with?

We’re living in a lonely modern society and these pharmaceutical slash therapy cures will not change that one bit. What to do?


32 posted on 08/17/2007 4:17:58 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (We all need someone we can bleed on...)
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To: Kaslin

Depression overdiagnosed ?

I find that very depressing.


33 posted on 08/17/2007 6:28:20 PM PDT by festus (I'm a fRedneck and proud of it.)
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