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Castro: Cuba not cashing U.S. Guantanamo rent checks
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Posted on 08/17/2007 3:40:28 PM PDT by Hi Heels

Castro: Cuba not cashing U.S. Guantanamo rent checks By Anthony Boadle 2 hours, 23 minutes ago

HAVANA (Reuters) - The United States pays Cuba $4,085 a month in rent for the controversial Guantanamo naval base, but Cuba has only once cashed a check in almost half a century and then only by mistake, Fidel Castro wrote in an essay published on Friday.

The ailing Cuban leader, who has not appeared in public for more than a year, said he had refused to cash the checks to protest the "illegal" U.S. occupation of the land which he said was now used for "dirty work."

"The base is needed to humiliate and to do the dirty work that occurs there," he said of the detention camp where some 355 terrorism suspects are still being held with no legal rights despite international criticism.

Castro, who turned 81 on Monday out of public sight, said the U.S. checks are made out to the "Treasurer General of the Republic," a position that ceased to exist after Cuba's 1959 revolution.

He said only one U.S. check was ever cashed -- in 1959 due to "confusion" in the heady early days of the leftist revolution.

Castro's refusal to cash the checks to protest the "illegal" occupation has been long known. In a television interview years ago, he showed the checks stuffed into a desk drawer in his office.

The final installment of Castro's long historical essay on Cuba's hostile relations with the United States -- written for future generations -- was published by the ruling Communist Party newspaper Granma.

The essay entitled "The Empire and the Independent Island" recounted Castro's view of U.S. efforts to control Cuba since U.S. troops landed on the island in the Spanish-American War that secured Cuban independence from Spain in 1898.

The United States retained 46.8 square miles (121 square kilometers) at the entrance to Guantanamo Bay in eastern Cuba for a naval base, which has been used as a prison camp for Taliban and al Qaeda terrorism suspects since the Afghanistan war following the September 11 attacks in 2001.

The base was initially a coaling station for the U.S. Navy to protect the approaches to the Panama Canal.

Castro said the enclave was "illegally usurped" by the United States, adding that the base no longer had any strategic military purpose in the age of nuclear-powered aircraft carriers packed with fast fighter-bombers.

"If we have to wait for the collapse of the (capitalist) system, we will wait," Castro wrote. He said Cuba was always on alert to the threat of a U.S. invasion.

Castro handed over power to his brother Raul on July 26 last year after undergoing emergency intestinal surgery. His health is a state secret, but few Cubans expect him to return to office.

The Cuban leader, the last of the major Cold War figures still alive, is seen as a Stalinist tyrant by his enemies but is widely admired in the Third World for standing up to the United States, a David-versus-Goliath role he has relished.


TOPICS: Cuba; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: castro; checks; cuba; gitmo
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1 posted on 08/17/2007 3:40:40 PM PDT by Hi Heels
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To: Hi Heels

Wll, then the new democratic Cuban government can take them to Check-N-Go after Castro dies.


2 posted on 08/17/2007 3:42:38 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Cuius testiculos habeas, habeas cardia et cerebellum)
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To: Hi Heels
"If we have to wait for the collapse of the (capitalist) system, we will wait," Castro wrote.

Hell will never freeze over, Fidel...as I'm pretty sure you'll be able to report first-hand any day now...

3 posted on 08/17/2007 3:43:29 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (States' rights can never trump God-given, unalienable rights...)
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To: Hi Heels
Cuba not cashing U.S. Guantanamo rent checks

Maybe they didn't have the proper ID.

4 posted on 08/17/2007 3:43:47 PM PDT by capt. norm (Be thankful we're not getting all the government we're paying for.)
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To: Hi Heels

Oh, and Fidel? Say hello to Marx and Lenin, will ya?


5 posted on 08/17/2007 3:44:10 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (States' rights can never trump God-given, unalienable rights...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

60 to 90 days those checks are worthless anyway.


6 posted on 08/17/2007 3:44:53 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: Hi Heels

So let’s stop sending them checks.


7 posted on 08/17/2007 3:45:48 PM PDT by wastedyears (Alright, hold tight, I'm a highway staaaaaaaaaaaaarrr)
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To: Hi Heels
"is seen as a Stalinist tyrant by his enemies but is widely admired in the Third World for standing up to the United States, a David-versus-Goliath role he has relished."

Wonder which the reporter admires more: Stalinist tyrant or standing up to the United States?

BTW Castro is not "seen as" a tyrant. I think we can safely place the 50 year rule of a dictator for life in the column under "tyrant".

8 posted on 08/17/2007 3:45:59 PM PDT by Williams
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To: Hi Heels

castro now has fatal septicemia and only has days to live.


9 posted on 08/17/2007 3:46:19 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: shield

Source?


10 posted on 08/17/2007 3:46:56 PM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Nah, they use CashCall... "Need Cash? Call CashCall!"


11 posted on 08/17/2007 3:47:33 PM PDT by Philistone (Your existence as a non-believer offends the Prophet(MPBUH).)
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To: Hi Heels

I was stationed there in 1961 for 6 weeks!!!!!!.....


12 posted on 08/17/2007 3:50:16 PM PDT by GitmoSailor (AZ Cold War Vet===Fairness Doctrine for TV First!!!!!.....I'Am With Fred)
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To: Hi Heels
"If we have to wait for the collapse of the (capitalist) system, we will wait," Castro wrote. Sounds good.
13 posted on 08/17/2007 3:50:39 PM PDT by Blackyce (President Jacques Chirac: "As far as I'm concerned, war always means failure.")
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To: wastedyears

If we stopped sending them checks, the lease would be null & void and Castro could take the territory back. Besides, $50K a year rent for a naval base is chicken feed.


14 posted on 08/17/2007 3:50:44 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Cuius testiculos habeas, habeas cardia et cerebellum)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Leaqve me out of this!


15 posted on 08/17/2007 3:51:57 PM PDT by null and void (I hate to suggest something this radical, but why not let the policy follow the facts? ~ReignOfError)
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To: null and void

Damm fat fingers.

LEAVE me out of this.


16 posted on 08/17/2007 3:52:32 PM PDT by null and void (I hate to suggest something this radical, but why not let the policy follow the facts? ~ReignOfError)
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To: Hi Heels

Dear Senor Castro,

I will be most happy to take those checks off your hands. Just sign the back and send them to me soon.

Most obliged,

madison10


17 posted on 08/17/2007 3:55:47 PM PDT by madison10
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To: Hi Heels

I need to sneak in and get those checks,
Could use the money.
Lots of banks right here would take em.


18 posted on 08/17/2007 3:56:26 PM PDT by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: dfwgator
No-Show Castro

".. In the past few weeks he (Castro) has been operated on more than once to stop what appeared likely to progress to fatal septicemia. These same sources say the leader has lost much weight, that he does not want to walk or receive visitors.".."

19 posted on 08/17/2007 3:58:37 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Well lets see.....If he thinks that Gitmo is illegally “occupied” then why doesn't he take it back by force ???..

Oh yeah ... I know , cause he’d get his cancerous puss filled a$$ kicked.. That’s why

20 posted on 08/17/2007 4:00:46 PM PDT by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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To: Hi Heels
The base was initially a coaling station for the U.S. Navy to protect the approaches to the Panama Canal.


21 posted on 08/17/2007 4:01:28 PM PDT by paltz
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To: Anti-Bubba182
Also of interest: On his recent tour of Latin America, Hugo Chavez--after insulting The U.S. as "Count Dracula!" and "a "genocidal killer!"--mentioned that Fidel Castro had advised against such insults.

That raises an interesting point. Chavez is chomping at the bit to take over as the lefties' standard-bearer.

22 posted on 08/17/2007 4:01:31 PM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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To: Hi Heels
Your Problem, Not ours. JO
23 posted on 08/17/2007 4:01:58 PM PDT by fedupjohn (If we try to fight the war on terror with eyes shut + ears packed with wax, innocent people will die)
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To: shield; Eaker; hiredhand; Joe Brower; ExSoldier

I don’t see a problem Castro ya cuban killing piece of trash ....three party , out of state check with no ID ????

Surely there is some liberal bankin POS in Canookistan that will try and get yer money !

Dare ya to try and evict them Marines........:o)


24 posted on 08/17/2007 4:03:02 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. )
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Well, if we stop paying rent, they will have to try to evict us, right?

Then we can settle this hash once and for all.

25 posted on 08/17/2007 4:04:29 PM PDT by Pistolshot (Every woman, who can, should learn to shoot, and carry a gun.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Cool, it appears we have saved $2,348,940! Unfortunately, our dirt bag congressmen have spent that plus some on other useless items!


26 posted on 08/17/2007 4:08:17 PM PDT by martinidon
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To: dfwgator
"That raises an interesting point. Chavez is chomping at the bit to take over as the lefties' standard-bearer."

I am sure he does and with the oil money behind him he is a lock to be the standard-bearer, unless he dies or is overthrown.

27 posted on 08/17/2007 4:08:24 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Hi Heels

Good. A penny saved is a penny earned.


28 posted on 08/17/2007 4:10:19 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: Hi Heels

Question - how exactly did we end up with a base on Cuba, particularly considering the Cold War troubles (Cuban Missile Crisis, Bay of Pigs, etc...)?

That part of the story was left out of my Public School education (a couple of decades back).


29 posted on 08/17/2007 4:13:37 PM PDT by TheBattman (I've got TWO QUESTIONS for you....)
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To: dfwgator
http://www.diariolaestrella.com/144/story/25198.html
30 posted on 08/17/2007 4:14:29 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I hope they’re marked “Void after 90 days”. If they aren’t, they should be.


31 posted on 08/17/2007 4:14:44 PM PDT by Slump Tester ( What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

On the other hand, the Republic of Cuba, as Castro explains, is not his government. So it would be dishonest for him to cash the checks.

(I’m one of those who thinks that any treaty the USSR signed with the USA became void once the USSR ceased to exist.)

But I agree — we should continue to send the checks.


32 posted on 08/17/2007 4:17:02 PM PDT by scrabblehack
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To: Hi Heels

IIRC, we have a 99 year lease or something?

When that expires, we should turn the land over - to the anti-Castro Cubans! :)


33 posted on 08/17/2007 4:27:34 PM PDT by Dragonspirit (We fight it out as good friends now, but in 2008 we UNITE against our enemy!)
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To: TheBattman

It was our price from liberating Cuba from Spain, a century ago during the Spanish American War.


34 posted on 08/17/2007 4:34:13 PM PDT by NathanR
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To: Hi Heels

I hope that they’re all stamped “this check void after 90 days”. :-)


35 posted on 08/17/2007 4:36:10 PM PDT by meyer (It's the entitlements, stupid!)
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To: Dragonspirit

By sending checks we acknowledge the landlord.


36 posted on 08/17/2007 4:37:29 PM PDT by Orange1998
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To: EternalVigilance
"If we have to wait for the collapse of the (capitalist) system, we will wait," Castro wrote.

Idiot! Then the checks will be worthless.

37 posted on 08/17/2007 4:39:05 PM PDT by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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To: NathanR
It was our price from liberating Cuba from Spain, a century ago during the Spanish American War.

Oh, I thought it was in exchange for us giving Cuba a good sized piece of Miami..

38 posted on 08/17/2007 4:39:10 PM PDT by Riodacat (Ignorance is bliss. Knowledge, truth and reality sucks....)
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To: Hi Heels
Possible, Castro estan muerto.

5.56mm

39 posted on 08/17/2007 4:44:48 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: Hi Heels
"The Cuban leader, the last of the major Cold War figures still alive..."

ARGH! Lady Thatcher ain't dead, folks!

40 posted on 08/17/2007 4:49:52 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: wastedyears
Years ago in a college history class I remember the prof talking about the Spanish-American War and Guantanamo. IIRC, the treaty signed with the new Cuban government gives the US the naval base in perpetuity as long as we make the payments.

If that is correct, to stop making the payments means we would be giving up the base. I think that some time in the future when Cuba is no longer under a communist dictatorship we will leave Guantanamo.

41 posted on 08/17/2007 5:08:48 PM PDT by ops33 (Retired USAF Senior Master Sergeant)
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To: Hi Heels

Maybe someone who knows a lot about Guantanamo Bay can answer me this... Are we actually leasing this naval base from Cuba? If so, how much longer is the lease?


42 posted on 08/17/2007 5:13:50 PM PDT by John123 ("What good fortune for the governments that the people do not think" -- Adolf Hitler)
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To: Hi Heels
“If we have to wait for the collapse of the (capitalist) system, we will wait,” Castro wrote.

SNORK!!! Bwahahahahaaha!!!!

Whoa * * *

I think I pissed my pants from laughing so hard!

43 posted on 08/17/2007 5:17:57 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: John123

From wikipedia (of course, not always the most reliable internet source):

By the war’s end, the U.S. government had obtained control of all of Cuba from Spain. A perpetual lease for the area around Guantánamo Bay was offered February 23, 1903, from Tomás Estrada Palma, an American citizen, who became the first President of Cuba. The Cuban-American Treaty gave, among other things, the Republic of Cuba ultimate sovereignty over Guantánamo Bay while granting the United States “complete jurisdiction and control” of the area for coaling and naval stations.

A 1934 treaty reaffirming the lease granted Cuba and her trading partners free access through the bay, modified the lease payment from $2,000 in U.S. gold coins per year, to the 1934 equivalent value of $4,085 in U.S. dollars, and made the lease permanent unless both governments agreed to break it or the U.S. abandoned the base property.


44 posted on 08/17/2007 5:25:33 PM PDT by samson1097
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To: samson1097
made the lease permanent unless both governments agreed to break it or the U.S. abandoned the base property.

Thanks man. Castro is screwed... :)

45 posted on 08/17/2007 5:29:46 PM PDT by John123 ("What good fortune for the governments that the people do not think" -- Adolf Hitler)
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To: Squantos; shield; Eaker; hiredhand; Joe Brower; ExSoldier
I fail to understand why the putrid chunk of flesh with the scraggly beard is still breathing perfectly good air down there on that patch of dirt in the ocean. ...and for that matter why the American flag isn't flying over the island as well.

Call me old fashioned, but he's got nothing down there that the 1st Marine Battalion can't take care of. But you know how it goes with us being governed by a bunch of asshat spineless globalist panty-waist cowards and all. They're having enough problems just letting Marines BE Marines in Iraq now!...so I suppose a good ole BFI overthrow is just plain out of the question. I can always hope though. :-)
46 posted on 08/17/2007 5:30:49 PM PDT by hiredhand (My kitty disappeared. NOT the rifle!)
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To: Hi Heels

“The Cuban leader, the last of the major Cold War figures still alive, is seen as a Stalinist tyrant by his enemies but is widely admired in the Third World for standing up to the United States, a David-versus-Goliath role he has relished.”

Margaret Thatcher? Mikhail Gorbachev? LOL.


47 posted on 08/17/2007 5:39:16 PM PDT by Constantine XIII
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To: Constantine XIII

What about Helmut Kohl?


48 posted on 08/17/2007 5:48:49 PM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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To: hiredhand
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1882807/posts?page=66#66
49 posted on 08/17/2007 5:48:52 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: dfwgator

He went into the slaw business. *rimshot*


50 posted on 08/17/2007 5:53:53 PM PDT by Constantine XIII
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