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Prisoners sent to Mississippi
Sacramento Bee ^ | August 18, 2007 | Andy Furillo

Posted on 08/18/2007 10:45:05 AM PDT by NerdDad

California corrections officials have begun sending hundreds of foreign national inmates against their will to a private prison in Mississippi as part of a stepped-up, out-of-state transfer plan. The first two flights of prisoners to the Tallahatchie County Detention Facility in Tutwiler, Miss., have taken place without incident, officials said, in spite of fears expressed by the California correctional officers union that the forced transfers would be met with inmate violence.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Mississippi
KEYWORDS: aliens; foreignnationals; illegals; immigrantlist; jerryclower; mississippi; prisoner; sendthemback
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California dumping their illegals into Mississippi to "save money".
1 posted on 08/18/2007 10:45:07 AM PDT by NerdDad
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California corrections officials have begun sending hundreds of foreign national inmates against their will to a private prison in Mississippi......

Against their will. That's stupid.
2 posted on 08/18/2007 10:47:06 AM PDT by Jaysun (It's outlandishly inappropriate to suggest that I'm wrong.)
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To: WKB; wardaddy; WileyPink; jmax; Islander7; 2ndDivisionVet; somniferum; flying Elvis; MagnoliaMS; ...

Missippy Ping yall.

California is sending “hundreds” of their foreign national prisoners (mostly Mexican) to private prison in Tutwiler MS.

Oh joy!!


3 posted on 08/18/2007 10:47:59 AM PDT by NerdDad (Aug 7, 1981, I married my soulmate, CDBEAR. 26 years and I'm still teenager-crazy in love with her.)
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To: NerdDad

Send the bill to Mexico?


4 posted on 08/18/2007 10:49:06 AM PDT by Spruce
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To: NerdDad
They invite and even finance their invasion, with sanctuary city’s then make a poor state like this support them .
5 posted on 08/18/2007 10:51:05 AM PDT by noamnasty
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To: NerdDad

A link to their facilities.

http://www.correctionscorp.com/facilitylist.cfm


6 posted on 08/18/2007 10:52:26 AM PDT by Hurricane
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To: Jaysun

Stupid is just the tip of it. Nothing like importing unhappy prisoners into the state. Can’t imagine that this is going to be a good thing for the environment inside the walls at Tutwiler especially with it being hotter than the hinges to the gates of hell here.

Hope the company is running a tight ship there. And I hope the citizens in the surrounding area are well armed to handle the eventual prison break.


7 posted on 08/18/2007 10:54:52 AM PDT by NerdDad (Aug 7, 1981, I married my soulmate, CDBEAR. 26 years and I'm still teenager-crazy in love with her.)
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To: Hurricane

This is in Tallahatchie County MS

Info from the site you linked:

Facility Type: male Maximum-security CCA owned facility since Mar-00
Total Beds: 1,104
Customer Base: Tallahatchie County (County Jail) and the states of Mississippi and Hawaii (and now California).
About Tutwiler: Tallahatchie County Correctional Center is located one and a half miles north of the city of Tutwiler on U.S. Highway 49 and occupies approximately 27 acres of the 149-acre site.
Tutwiler, MS is a rural farming community with a population of about 1,800. It is noted to be where “Blues Begin.” The current Mayor is Robert Grayson.


8 posted on 08/18/2007 11:06:07 AM PDT by NerdDad (Aug 7, 1981, I married my soulmate, CDBEAR. 26 years and I'm still teenager-crazy in love with her.)
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To: Jaysun
Against their will. That's stupid.

I would have assumed that the whole incarceration thing was not according to the prisoners' will to begin with.

9 posted on 08/18/2007 11:07:40 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: rogue yam
I would have assumed that the whole incarceration thing was not according to the prisoners' will to begin with.

Exactly. You don't have people banging on the doors of prisons asking to get in.
10 posted on 08/18/2007 11:12:52 AM PDT by Jaysun (It's outlandishly inappropriate to suggest that I'm wrong.)
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To: NerdDad

That’s just lovely. they won’t pass laws to control illegal immigration and citizen rights in their own state, then they ship the worst of the illegals to us. I wonder what genius in Mississippi agreed to this, though?


11 posted on 08/18/2007 11:23:40 AM PDT by mrsmel
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To: NerdDad

Tennessee has been housing California inmates for some time. I don’t know their legal status though. Maybe their trying to break up the prison gangs out there.


12 posted on 08/18/2007 11:26:31 AM PDT by eyedigress
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To: NerdDad

Yeah,just wait till their families relocate there to be close to their convict relatives.Mississippi had better have the funds to support them,I.E.,food stamps,hospital care,and any and all welfare available.Say what you want but they opened three prisons here in West Texas within ten miles from where i reside.Californicate is smart.They know many families will move to be with their loved ones.They have to be near their loved ones as they know they were wrongly convicted./sc


13 posted on 08/18/2007 11:31:27 AM PDT by xarmydog
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To: mrsmel

“I wonder what genius in Mississippi agreed to this, though?”

Since the prison is a private corporation, I wonder if there is any state oversight of those decisions? I know they have to comply with Department of Corrections requirements but I don’t know if that includes anything about where the prisoners come from.


14 posted on 08/18/2007 11:33:06 AM PDT by NerdDad (Aug 7, 1981, I married my soulmate, CDBEAR. 26 years and I'm still teenager-crazy in love with her.)
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To: eyedigress

“Maybe their trying to break up the prison gangs out there.”

Break up the gangs would be great. However ... Export them to other states is a more likely outcome of this policy.


15 posted on 08/18/2007 11:36:25 AM PDT by NerdDad (Aug 7, 1981, I married my soulmate, CDBEAR. 26 years and I'm still teenager-crazy in love with her.)
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To: xarmydog
Oh,and when may are released,they have a tendency to stay there.Watch the crime escalate.The monies made to house these fine individuals will in no way offset the added expense of policing them after their release.If I lived there,I would sell as fast as possible and get out of Denver while the gettins’ good.I have seen it firsthand.
16 posted on 08/18/2007 11:38:28 AM PDT by xarmydog
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To: NerdDad
“officials have begun sending hundreds of foreign national inmates against their will to a private prison in Mississippi”

Criminals not given their choice of correctional facilities??

Horrors!! What about the Constitution?? I know that there’s a prohibition against this in there somewhere among the emanations and penumbras.

17 posted on 08/18/2007 11:40:05 AM PDT by vetsvette (Bring Him Back)
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To: mrsmel

“what genius in Mississippi agreed to this, though?”

Are there any geniuses in Mississippi?

(just kidding)


18 posted on 08/18/2007 11:41:29 AM PDT by vetsvette (Bring Him Back)
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To: xarmydog

“Californicate is smart.They know many families will move to be with their loved ones.They have to be near their loved ones as they know they were wrongly convicted.”

Your theory sounds frighteningly plausible. Unfortunately. And you are dead right about the economic impact on the area.

West Texas? Where? I grew up in Kermit and worked all over that area in the oil fields before going to the AF from 77-84. Managed the Monahans DQ in the late 80s before returning to my wife’s home state of MS.


19 posted on 08/18/2007 11:41:38 AM PDT by NerdDad (Aug 7, 1981, I married my soulmate, CDBEAR. 26 years and I'm still teenager-crazy in love with her.)
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To: NerdDad

What we have here is a faiure to communicate.[Cool Hand Luke}


20 posted on 08/18/2007 11:43:07 AM PDT by wildbill
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To: noamnasty

NO, California pays upkeep for the prisoners at a private prison in MS. Apparently real estate and labor costs are lower in “AM I, ESS ESS I, double ESS, I peepee, I”.


21 posted on 08/18/2007 11:43:58 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (NYT Headline: Protocols of the Learned Elders of CBS: Fake but Accurate, Experts Say)
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To: vetsvette

“Are there any geniuses in Mississippi?(just kidding)”

I know you are just kidding, but... There can’t be too many in the Dept of Corrections if they are letting this happen.


22 posted on 08/18/2007 11:44:17 AM PDT by NerdDad (Aug 7, 1981, I married my soulmate, CDBEAR. 26 years and I'm still teenager-crazy in love with her.)
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To: NerdDad
I’ve always thought they should be sent to Russia. After all, the Russians have great experience handling prisoners. They have the remnants of the Gulag that could be rehabed to accomodate new arrivals. Given the vastness of Russia, who would try to escape, and as it gets very cold in Siberia, who would want to escape.
23 posted on 08/18/2007 11:48:01 AM PDT by quadrant
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Thanks for the info. Guess under these circumstances they both win, Missi gets more jobs and Cali saves some money. But when it’s all said and done, we are the losers.


24 posted on 08/18/2007 11:51:30 AM PDT by noamnasty
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To: NerdDad

I would think it an honor to serve one’s sentence in the county made famous by “Ode to Billy Joe”.


25 posted on 08/18/2007 11:57:44 AM PDT by jwparkerjr (Sigh . . .)
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To: NerdDad
There can’t be too many in the Dept of Corrections if they are letting this happen.

I've known of several small towns/counties that had excess jail capacity. They took prisoners from DC and California and made a profit on it.

26 posted on 08/18/2007 11:58:48 AM PDT by DeFault User
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To: quadrant

“I’ve always thought they should be sent to Russia.”

That’s a stellar idea.

I just wish they would send these guys back where they came from. Airdrops would be fine since they are flying them out of CA anyways. PYOP.
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27 posted on 08/18/2007 11:59:48 AM PDT by NerdDad (Aug 7, 1981, I married my soulmate, CDBEAR. 26 years and I'm still teenager-crazy in love with her.)
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To: vetsvette

Haley Barbour would be a candidate, he didn’t seem to lose too many brain cells during his brush with DC :D Next to Blanco, he looks like a positive Einstein (not to faintly praise with damnation :) )


28 posted on 08/18/2007 12:26:29 PM PDT by mrsmel
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To: NerdDad
Good place to send them, bet they are shocked.

At least we have prisons other than Parchman now, I can remember that some of us in law enforcement in the 60’s, 70’s were nearly run out of the state for asking for more prisons.

29 posted on 08/18/2007 12:28:33 PM PDT by gulfcoast6 (Tis a day the Lord hath made!)
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To: NerdDad

Gee between the unemployables/thugs already well established in Jackson and the delta towns, and now the illegals, Mississippi is certainly going to rise above being 50th in everything, isn’t it? ;-)


30 posted on 08/18/2007 12:30:49 PM PDT by Clemenza (Rudy Giuliani, like Pesto and Seattle, belongs in the scrap heap of '90s Culture)
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To: mrsmel

Tutwiler and its surroundings are some of the most impoverished areas in the country. The locals need any industry they can get.


31 posted on 08/18/2007 12:30:49 PM PDT by somniferum (Annoy a liberal.. Work hard and be happy.)
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To: xarmydog
Oh boy, I can see it now, a Mexican neighborhood in Titwiler.
32 posted on 08/18/2007 12:30:55 PM PDT by gulfcoast6 (Tis a day the Lord hath made!)
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To: NerdDad
The same thing happened in Indiana, the state built a "medical " facility, in NewCastle.

They claimed it was never used for Indiana general population prisoners because of a lack of guards and staff...but suddenly Arizona wanted to dump a load of prisoners here and amazingly the "staffing" appeared.

The result a failed program that ended in a RIOT.

Prisons are no longer treated as a necessary evil, they are warehouses for the highest bidder.

33 posted on 08/18/2007 12:32:59 PM PDT by Kakaze (Exterminate Islamofacism and apologize for nothing.....except not doing it sooner!)
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To: gulfcoast6

Guess you noticed I mispelled Tutwiller. Excuse me....


34 posted on 08/18/2007 12:34:37 PM PDT by gulfcoast6 (Tis a day the Lord hath made!)
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To: gulfcoast6

You will when your Police speak spanish on the scanner.Oh,and Hispanics are classified as white males due to PC.And make sure your insurance covers uninsured motorist.Yes your Ins.will go up,but it beats walking to work.I have tried as hard as I can to get along,but that does not work.You will notice a major change within one year to your present existence.I bet a six pack of your choice on that.Good luck.And while you are at it,vote the assholes out of office who passed that smart plan.It is NOT for the children!


35 posted on 08/18/2007 12:54:43 PM PDT by xarmydog
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To: Jaysun

What’s a “private prison”?


36 posted on 08/18/2007 12:56:45 PM PDT by gitmo (From now on, ending a sentence with a preposition is something up with which I will not put.)
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What’s a “private prison”?

One in which the toilets have curtains in front of them. No, it's a prison that's owned and run by a private company.
37 posted on 08/18/2007 1:02:02 PM PDT by Jaysun (It's outlandishly inappropriate to suggest that I'm wrong.)
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To: NerdDad

Prisoners sent to Mississippi...

wonder if MS would be interested in all the illegals from the peoples’ republic of the sanctuary state of New Jersey?????


38 posted on 08/18/2007 1:17:48 PM PDT by nyyankeefan
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To: NerdDad
The NAACP is crying bloody murder for the prisoners right now here in North Mississippi. There are no air conditioners in the jails here and the temperature is oppressive and the jail cells are intolerable. Prison is what its supposed to be here, not any fun. These Californicate prisoners are going to get a real jolt when they get to Tutweiler...its not nice there right now and many prisoners are doing all they can to keep from being sent to these facilities in this state...
39 posted on 08/18/2007 1:31:45 PM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: vetvetdoug

Couldn’t be very much worse than it is for citizens who work in construction and the like, in the same temperatures, being gainfully and legally employed, right?


40 posted on 08/18/2007 1:40:16 PM PDT by mrsmel
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To: NerdDad

I always thought the Devil’s Island thing was a good idea.


41 posted on 08/18/2007 2:23:47 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Elections have consequences.)
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To: NerdDad

““Californicate is smart.They know many families will move to be with their loved ones.They have to be near their loved ones as they know they were wrongly convicted.”

Your theory sounds frighteningly plausible. Unfortunately. And you are dead right about the economic impact on the area.”

Oh, in order to avoid trampling on prisoners “rights” they are only sending those who committed crimes in California and either volunteered to be transferred out of the state(only about 200 did so) or were illegal immigrants who stated that they had no family ties in California. If they’re boomeranged, er deported, after release, when they come back to the US they’ll most likely go back to the Southwest unless some undisclosed family members move to Mississippi/Arizona.

Meanwhile the MS prisons only cost California ~$60/inmate/day while the CA ones cost ~$90. Some inmates are also being sent to Arizona(I’d love it if they could send them to Sheriff Arpaio). California decided to do this partially because some federal judges have been making noises about a prison population cap and ordering early releases because CA is about 80,000 prisoners over capacity. The biggest complainer in this whole thing is the CA correctional officers union.


42 posted on 08/18/2007 7:16:39 PM PDT by sweetcynic
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To: noamnasty
then make a poor state like this support them .

The story said, "a private prison".

43 posted on 08/18/2007 7:20:24 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

Guess I read about as much of that article as you did this thread. They already cleared it up for me . But thanks anyway now it’s even more clear .


44 posted on 08/18/2007 8:50:43 PM PDT by noamnasty
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To: noamnasty

You’re welcome.


45 posted on 08/18/2007 9:12:29 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: vetsvette
Are there any geniuses in Mississippi?

Unfortunately, Jerry Clower died back in 1998...
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One of Jerry's best lines was
"Ah can see that you are educated far beyond your intelligence!"
46 posted on 08/18/2007 11:59:55 PM PDT by mkjessup (Jan 20, 2009 - "We Don't Know. Where Rudy Went. Just Glad He's Not. The President. Burma Shave.")
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To: Jaysun

Why I thought the prisoners wanted to be in jail. Of course it’s against their will.


47 posted on 08/19/2007 12:15:18 AM PDT by Pencil
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ping


48 posted on 08/19/2007 11:44:39 AM PDT by gubamyster
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To: mkjessup

Huhooooooooweeeeee! That was a good’un.


49 posted on 08/19/2007 1:08:19 PM PDT by NewRomeTacitus (The South will rise agin! Just as soon as we rest up a bit more. Any time now... ya'll see!)
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To: mkjessup

Mr. Clower was THE original Southern comedic genius whom Jeff Foxworthy, Bill Engvall and Larry the Cable Guy must thank for breaking that ground.

“Girls, if you have a problem with beaus pawing on you just place a Bible on the seat between you. You’ll be amazed at how much trouble they’ll have trying to get to you over Matthew, Mark, Luke and John.”


50 posted on 08/19/2007 2:21:57 PM PDT by NewRomeTacitus
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