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What can happen if the Senate passes S.1105, the so-called "Hate Crimes" legislation
American Family Association ^

Posted on 08/18/2007 11:10:35 AM PDT by Arcy

There are people in your community that so hate what you have to say, they are willing to put a gun to your head to stop you from speaking; even if they have to do so vicariously using the police powers of government.

They hate it when you talk about God. They hate it when you pray. They hate to see you reading your bible. And they absolutely hate it when you share these in a public forum. Their hatred of God and His word has so filled their hearts, they want you silenced.

Senate Bill S.1105 is the so-called "Hate Crimes" bill. This video is about a real life example of what can happen if it passes. The ACLJ is fighting this on behalf of all freedom loving American's. Support them in their efforts if you can.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: 110th; aclj; christian; hatecrimes; homosexualagenda; religion; s1105; thoughtpolice

1 posted on 08/18/2007 11:10:39 AM PDT by Arcy
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To: Arcy
Does that mean I can no longer have any bad thoughts?
2 posted on 08/18/2007 11:12:39 AM PDT by Andy from Beaverton (I'm so anti-pc, I use a Mac)
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To: Arcy

It sounds like the “government” is attempting to take away our First Amendment rights. Those rights belong to us and they are not granted by the so-called “govenment.” IT’S OUR JOB TO TELL THEM NO! This must be “the right direction” the Commie ‘RATS are always talking about.


3 posted on 08/18/2007 11:14:20 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (When you start seeing FR as a "hate site," it's time for you to go to rehab.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

In the video (link above) police actually came to the door of a couple who simply voiced concern over homosexual books.


4 posted on 08/18/2007 11:17:08 AM PDT by Arcy
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To: Andy from Beaverton; Arcy

Does SB1105 have anything to do with HR1592?

protected by The Hate Crimes bill, H.R. 1592 !!!!!
Besides protecting Homosexuality, These sexual orientations would ALSO be

Coprophilia - sexual arousal associated with feces.

Exhibitionism - the act of exposing one’s genitalia to an unwilling observer to obtain sexual graitfication.

Fetishism/Sexual Fetishism - obtaining sexual excitement primarily or exclusively from an inaminate object or a particular part of the body.

Gay/Homosexual - people who form sexual relationships primarily or exclusively with members of their own gender.

Gerontosexuality - distinct preference for sexual relationships primarilly or exclusively with an elderly partner.

Incest - sex with a sibling or parent.

Kleptophilia - obtaining sexual excitement from stealing.

Klishmaphilia - erotic pleasure derived from enemas

Lesbian - a homosexual female.

Lewdness - sexually unchaste; inciting to lust or debauchery.

Masturbation - erotic stimulation of one’s own genitals.

Necrophilia - sexual arousal and/or activity with a corpse.

Paraphilia – a condition in which a person’s sexual arousal and gratifications depend on fantasizoing about and engaging in sexual behavior that is atypical and extreme.

Partialism – a fetish in which a person is sexually attracted to a specific body part exclusive of the person.

Pederasty – Sex between an adult and a child, usually an adult male and a male child.

Pedophilia – sexual contact between an adult and a child.

Bisexual Pedophilia – term used for an adult who derives sexual gratification from sexual contact with a child without regard to the sex of the child.

Heterosexual Pedophilia – term used for an adult who derives sexual gratification from sexual contact with a child of the opposite sex.

Gay Pedophilia - term used for a male adult who derives sexual gratification from sexual contact with a child of the same sex.

Lesbian Pedophilia – term used for a female adult who derives sexual gratification from sexual contact with a child of the same sex.

Prostitution – the act or practice of offering sexual stimulation or intercourse for money.

Sexual Masochism – obtaining sexual gratification by being subjected to pain or humiliation.

Sexual sadism – the intentional infliction of pain or humiliation on another person in order to achieve sexual excitement.

Telephone scatalogia – sexual arousal associatd with making or receiving obscene phone calls.

Toucherism – characterized by a strong desire to touch the breast or genitals of an unknown woman without her consent, often occurs in conjunction with other paraphilia.

Transexual - a person whose gender identity is different from his or hier anatomical gender.

Transvestite – a person who is swually stimulated or gratified by wearing the clothing of the other gender.

Urphilia – sexual arousal associated with urine.

Voyeurism – obtaining sexual arousal by observing people without their consent when they are undressed or engaged in sexual activitiy.

Zoophilia/Bestiality – engaging in sexual activity with animals.

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5 posted on 08/18/2007 11:18:42 AM PDT by Paperdoll ( Vote for Duncan Hunter in the Primaries for America's sake!)
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To: Paperdoll

Im not familiar with the legislation that your referring to.


6 posted on 08/18/2007 11:21:24 AM PDT by Arcy
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To: Arcy
In the video (link above) police actually came to the door of a couple who simply voiced concern over homosexual books.

The former United States of America is rapidly becoming a police state. Law enforcement would much rather go after law-abiding citizens for petty crap than go after real criminals. Less of a hassle and not as dangerous. The "right direction?"

7 posted on 08/18/2007 11:25:18 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (When you start seeing FR as a "hate site," it's time for you to go to rehab.)
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To: Arcy

I think ole Ted Kennedy snuck this into the defense authorization bill.


8 posted on 08/18/2007 11:26:45 AM PDT by vietvet67
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To: Arcy

This is the list of aberrations in the House Resolution which would be protected under the Hate Crimes Bill, as passed by the House and sent to the Senate.


9 posted on 08/18/2007 11:27:10 AM PDT by Paperdoll ( Vote for Duncan Hunter in the Primaries for America's sake!)
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To: Arcy

I will “hate” it and probably get arrested.


10 posted on 08/18/2007 11:30:22 AM PDT by eyedigress
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To: eyedigress

My bad. More fodder for BOR and his minions.


11 posted on 08/18/2007 11:32:14 AM PDT by eyedigress
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To: Andy from Beaverton
“Does that mean I can no longer have any bad thoughts?”

Actually, yes. If the left can prove by your words or actions that you have any thoughts not consistent with their “religious” liberal dogma, they want you jailed.

And, anyone that doesn’t think that this is exactly where the leftists want to take us, should get a new dealer.

12 posted on 08/18/2007 11:33:45 AM PDT by vetsvette (Bring Him Back)
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To: Arcy

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13 posted on 08/18/2007 11:34:08 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (just b/c your paranoid, doesn't mean they're NOT out to get you....run, Fred, run. :^)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
The former United States of America is rapidly becoming a police state.

If you read these bills, you'll find that Congress claims the authority to pass such legislation under the New Deal "substantial effects" doctrine.

"I write separately only to express my view that the very notion of a ‘substantial effects’ test under the Commerce Clause is inconsistent with the original understanding of Congress’ powers and with this Court’s early Commerce Clause cases. By continuing to apply this rootless and malleable standard, however circumscribed, the Court has encouraged the Federal Government to persist in its view that the Commerce Clause has virtually no limits. Until this Court replaces its existing Commerce Clause jurisprudence with a standard more consistent with the original understanding, we will continue to see Congress appropriating state police powers under the guise of regulating commerce."

-Justice Clarence Thomas

14 posted on 08/18/2007 11:37:07 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Arcy

I intensely dislike the words “hate crime” because that’s the same as “irregardless”, i.e., no such thing.


15 posted on 08/18/2007 11:38:07 AM PDT by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: Andy from Beaverton

If you read the bill, you see how the Marxist use the “interstate commerce clause” to give them the legal right to enact this bill. If it were not for the extreme liberal interpretation of the “interstate commerce clause” Congress could not pass 90% of its bills.

In other word this bill in un-Continual and they are getting around it by claming it has to do with interstate commerce.


16 posted on 08/18/2007 11:38:26 AM PDT by Exton1
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To: tacticalogic

It seems everyting would fall under the commerce clause. Starting with the Post Office and “ending” with the Internet.


17 posted on 08/18/2007 11:40:47 AM PDT by eyedigress
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To: eyedigress
It seems everyting would fall under the commerce clause. Starting with the Post Office and “ending” with the Internet.

If you buy that New Deal "living document" crap, it does.

18 posted on 08/18/2007 11:42:16 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic

You could purchase a copier from Texas, have it shipped to your office in Illinois and print flyers on it about your aversion to homosexuality. Off to jail you go, (So it seems). Is this an obscure possibility?


19 posted on 08/18/2007 11:46:09 AM PDT by eyedigress
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To: Arcy

HATE CRIMES = THOUGHT CONTROL

It really is that simple


20 posted on 08/18/2007 12:02:43 PM PDT by Teacher317
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To: Arcy
This means we'll all have to take dramatic action in order to preserve our freedom if we perceive someone is "offended" by our free speech.

Lock and load...

21 posted on 08/18/2007 12:16:28 PM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Teacher317
HATE CRIMES = THOUGHT CONTROL

It really is that simple

We got here because of this previous equation that we allowed to happen

POLITICAL CORRECTNESS = THOUGHT CONTROL

22 posted on 08/18/2007 12:23:57 PM PDT by Wil H (Islam translates to "submission", not "peace" - you can figure out the rest.)
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To: Arcy

Notice that it doesn’t protect Mohammedans - and they are not protected. So, we are “free” to hate them as much as we want.


23 posted on 08/18/2007 12:24:16 PM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1 - Take no prisoners))
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To: Arcy

It’s the 1984 Thought Police...I swear, the government gets scarier every day


24 posted on 08/18/2007 12:29:30 PM PDT by G8 Diplomat (From my fist to Harry Reid's face)
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To: eyedigress
You could purchase a copier from Texas, have it shipped to your office in Illinois and print flyers on it about your aversion to homosexuality. Off to jail you go, (So it seems). Is this an obscure possibility?

You don't even have to get that complicated. Congress can "find" that hate crimes "substantially effect interstate commerce" just because it's "victims" are now too traumatized to engage in commerce.

25 posted on 08/18/2007 12:36:19 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Paperdoll
Yuck! That looks like bill clinton's "to do" list.
26 posted on 08/18/2007 12:54:07 PM PDT by kitchen (Hey, Pericles. What are the three things a ruler must know?)
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To: Arcy

the so-called “Hate Crimes” legislation...

everyone can be a victim of hate crimes except white males!!!!


27 posted on 08/18/2007 1:12:35 PM PDT by nyyankeefan
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To: nyyankeefan

A white male, Steve Cohen (D) Memphis was one of the co authors.


28 posted on 08/18/2007 1:41:29 PM PDT by Coldwater Creek
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To: Wil H

POLITICAL CORRECTNESS = McCARTHYISM OF THE LEFT


29 posted on 08/18/2007 1:42:00 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (My number one goal in life is to leave a bigger carbon footprint than Al Gore.)
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To: Teacher317

>HATE CRIMES=THOUGHT CONTROL
It really is that simple<

I don’t get the connection. If the Hate Crimes bill PROTECTS the abuser - oh, do you mean we will be prosecuted for being against anything that is decadent and unnatural? Because that is what passing the Hate Crimes bill will mean. Seems unnaturally convoluted to me!


30 posted on 08/18/2007 2:10:13 PM PDT by Paperdoll ( Vote for Duncan Hunter in the Primaries for America's sake!)
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To: Arcy

The U.S. Senate’s new motto: NEVER UNDERESTIMATE THE POWER OF STUPID PEOPLE IN LARGE GROUPS!


31 posted on 08/18/2007 4:28:32 PM PDT by G8 Diplomat (Yo Congress--don't just talk, SAY SOMETHING!)
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To: G8 Diplomat

Or “Never underestimate the stupidity of government.” That was one of my old taglines.


32 posted on 08/18/2007 4:29:43 PM PDT by darkangel82 (Socialism is NOT an American value.)
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To: darkangel82

LOL well that’s a good one too!


33 posted on 08/18/2007 4:31:44 PM PDT by G8 Diplomat (From my fist to Harry Reid's face)
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To: lilylangtree
I whole heartedly agree with that sentiment. I don’t believe its possible under ANY scenario to commit a “hate crime”. The act is either a crime or it isn’t. PERIOD.
34 posted on 08/18/2007 5:35:31 PM PDT by Arcy
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To: Coldwater Creek

a self-flagilating lib/dem...nuff said!!!


35 posted on 08/18/2007 7:00:18 PM PDT by nyyankeefan
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To: Arcy

This is certainly an Orwellian “thought crimes” bill — but it does not contain ANY of the specific perversions listed in one of the comments. The bill is bad enough, no one needs to lie about what is actually in it — that just gives the other side ammunition against us. Check out S. 1105 for yourself at www.loc.gov, by clicking on the “THOMAS” link and typing in the bill number.


36 posted on 08/18/2007 7:14:52 PM PDT by JTR1888
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To: Paperdoll

Those perversions are not listed in either S. 1105 or H.R. 1592. See www.loc.gov, click on the THOMAS link and type in the bill number....


37 posted on 08/18/2007 7:14:54 PM PDT by JTR1888
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To: Andy from Beaverton

FreeRepublic could be charge with Hate Posting under this thought crime law.


38 posted on 08/18/2007 7:18:01 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Arcy
In regard to the Roberts' story, although an apology was given by the Wyre Borough Council, the wording of the council's statement is disturbing and points to the social unhealthiness of this community:

"The council is committed to a policy of tolerance and equal treatment for all - including those holding strong religious views."

So now, those with "strong religious views" are the outsiders to be tolerated, not two men who want to treat each other's anuses as vaginas and then have the government by force of law call it "normal," notwithstanding all sound scientific findings to the contrary. Who would have thought this could ever be the case?

And as England goes, so goes the U.S.

39 posted on 08/19/2007 7:32:28 AM PDT by fwdude
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The ACLU is supporting this bill

Surprise, surprise.

40 posted on 08/19/2007 9:37:54 PM PDT by Celtman (It's never right to do wrong to do right.)
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To: Celtman

No, the ACLJ. The American Center for Law and Justice.


41 posted on 08/20/2007 5:23:06 AM PDT by Arcy
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To: fwdude
I noticed that as well. Rather disturbing isn’t it? American’s who love freedom must continue the fight to keep it. It’s sad that I have to distinguish between American’s who love freedom and...well, you know.
42 posted on 08/20/2007 5:25:16 AM PDT by Arcy
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To: Arcy
No, the ACLJ. The American Center for Law and Justice.

Uhh...yeah.  But I said what I meant, and meant what I said.  The ACLU is supporting this bill.

My post was not intended as a contradiction to your article, but merely as a supplement.

43 posted on 08/20/2007 9:14:33 AM PDT by Celtman (It's never right to do wrong to do right.)
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To: Celtman

Wow. I didn’t know that. Thanks for qualifying your comment.


44 posted on 08/20/2007 9:13:26 PM PDT by Arcy
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To: FlingWingFlyer
The former United States of America is rapidly becoming a police state.

And people don't see it.

45 posted on 08/20/2007 9:25:56 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (“Jesus Saves. Moses Delivers. Cthulu Reposesses...”)
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