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Armed gang attacks family in car-(GB firearms on the loose)
bbc ^ | 18 August 2007 | bbc

Posted on 08/19/2007 4:18:19 AM PDT by Flavius

Armed police were called after a family visiting relatives were robbed by 10 masked men, two with guns.

The driver was parked near his parents' home in Eldon Road, Luton, on Thursday evening when a gang surrounded his car.

He fled on foot towards a nearby bridge but two of the offenders caught him and took his car keys, police said.

His brother and a friend also ran away but were not followed. Two girls aged 13 and six left in the car were made to hand over clothing and mobiles phones.

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To: tioga
I am SHOCKED that grown men fled and left two girls to the mercy of this armed gang. This is just NOT right.

And that's putting it diplomatically!


21 posted on 08/19/2007 5:22:04 AM PDT by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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To: JillValentine
Horse manure

There is no justification for two adult males to run away and leave two young girls at the mercy of armed thugs

Thank God this didn't turn into more then just a robbery

22 posted on 08/19/2007 5:26:59 AM PDT by Popman (I removed my Bushbot brain chip after he didn't veto the McCain Feingold election anti freedom bill)
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To: JillValentine
In fairness, running away when threatened with a gun is an instinctive reaction. ...

Oh, fiddle-faddle! To run away when threatened by a gun is not "instinctive", however to protect one's offspring -- to the point of laying down one's life -- is. These men were cowards. There's no other word for it.

"All men are afraid in battle. The coward is the one who lets his fear overcome his sense of duty. Duty is the essence of manhood," -- George S. Patton

23 posted on 08/19/2007 5:34:44 AM PDT by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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To: Popman

Note to Freepers, Luton has one of the highest proportion of muslim population of any town in the UK at 15%. Draw your own conclusions from there.


24 posted on 08/19/2007 5:34:53 AM PDT by britemp
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To: asp1

‘Can we think of any places like that in the US?’

I can think of many cities in the US that have a higher murder rate than the whole of the UK has. . . .


25 posted on 08/19/2007 5:36:19 AM PDT by britemp
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To: britemp

I’m just not seeing your point?? What could it be??

kidding


26 posted on 08/19/2007 5:38:19 AM PDT by chasio649
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To: tioga

‘If men were allowed to own guns, these thugs wouldn’t have gotten away with this.’

Well, as men are allowed to own guns in America, I can only assume that this type of crime never happens in the US. . . . . .


27 posted on 08/19/2007 5:39:39 AM PDT by britemp
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To: asp1
Can we think of any places like that in the US?

Yes, post-Katrina Houston Texas.

28 posted on 08/19/2007 5:42:39 AM PDT by texgal (end no-fault divorce laws return DUE PROCESS & EQUAL PROTECTION to ALL citizens))
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To: Flavius

If the driver was able to get out of the car and run away he should have been able to have run over a bunch of the scum as he drove away.


29 posted on 08/19/2007 5:52:15 AM PDT by em2vn
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To: britemp
I was merely pointing out how this could happen anywhere in the world. Aren’t you glad you’re not here?
30 posted on 08/19/2007 5:55:13 AM PDT by asp1
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To: britemp

These were unarmed British men who ran........and I wish your logic worked.


31 posted on 08/19/2007 5:56:31 AM PDT by tioga
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To: tioga

‘These were unarmed British men who ran........and I wish your logic worked.’

It does. You say this would not happen if the men could own guns. Well in America you can own guns and it still happens, so your logic is false.


32 posted on 08/19/2007 6:03:48 AM PDT by britemp
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To: britemp

The right to own and the right to carry are two different things. Where the U. S. citizen is allowed to carry, this sort of thing is much rarer.


33 posted on 08/19/2007 6:05:19 AM PDT by Hiddigeigei (Mit der Dummheit kämpfen Götter selbst vergebens.)
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To: Flavius
Two girls aged 13 and six left in the car were made to hand over clothing and mobiles phones.

Brave Sir Robin ran away.
Bravely ran away, away!
When danger reared its ugly head,
He bravely turned his tail and fled.
Yes, brave Sir Robin turned about
And gallantly he chickened out.
Bravely taking to his feet
He beat a very brave retreat,
Bravest of the brave, Sir Robin!

He is packing it in and packing it up
And sneaking away and buggering up
And chickening out and pissing off home,
Yes, bravely he is throwing in the sponge...

34 posted on 08/19/2007 6:07:01 AM PDT by garbanzo (Government is not the solution to our problems. Government is the problem.)
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To: asp1

‘I was merely pointing out how this could happen anywhere in the world.’ Aren’t you glad you’re not here?’

And I was merely pointing out that this is such an unusual crime in the UK that despite there being no injuroes or deaths, it made the national news.

‘Aren’t you glad you’re not here?’

No, I enjoy my regular visits to the US, be they business or pleasure. Living in England makes me appreciate the good and bad points of the US.


35 posted on 08/19/2007 6:07:29 AM PDT by britemp
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To: britemp

For men who carry, do you think THEY would have left behind their six year old daughter? THAT is my point.

It IS a choice in a lot of America whether to be armed or not. The British have no such choice. And the police do not all carry there.......so what do the thugs have to fear?So far they have escaped.


36 posted on 08/19/2007 6:08:22 AM PDT by tioga
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To: DB

Perhaps the father was Muslim. No, seriously. I might be wrong, but this was a young family, several kids...

I’m willing to bet it was an “Asian” family where the father tried to save the car keys rather than his own kids. Lovely, just lovely.


37 posted on 08/19/2007 6:08:44 AM PDT by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: garbanzo

‘Brave Sir Robin ran away.’

You might want to re-title that Sir Mohammed as the family in the car owe their allegiance to a certain prophet. . . . . . . ;-)


38 posted on 08/19/2007 6:10:15 AM PDT by britemp
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To: asp1

Camden New Jersey and Gary Indiana are two places to avoid.


39 posted on 08/19/2007 6:10:59 AM PDT by Farmer Dean (168 grains of instant conflict resolution)
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To: vladimir998

‘Perhaps the father was Muslim.’

I wouldn’t bet against you on that one. . . . . ;-)


40 posted on 08/19/2007 6:11:11 AM PDT by britemp
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