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Speaking Of Sanctuary, Where's Ours? (Mark Steyn: Illegal Alien Protection Politics Alert)
Orange County Register ^ | 08/19/2007 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 08/19/2007 6:16:09 AM PDT by goldstategop

One could, I suppose, regard this as one of those unforeseen incremental consequences that happens in the darkest shadows of society. But that doesn't extend to Newark's official status as an illegal-immigrant "sanctuary city." Like Los Angeles, New York and untold others, Newark has formally erased the distinction between U.S. citizens and the armies of the undocumented. This is the active collusion by multiple cities and states in the subversion of U.S. sovereignty. In Newark, N.J., it means an illegal-immigrant child rapist is free to murder on a Saturday night. In Somerville, Mass., it means two deaf girls are raped by MS-13 members. And in Falls Church, Va., it means Saudi Wahhabists figuring out that, if the "sanctuary nation" (in Michelle Malkin's phrases) offers such rich pickings to imported killers and imported gangs, why not to jihadists?

"Tell Me Why They Had To Die"? Hard to answer. But tell me why, no matter how many Jose Carranzas it spawns, the nationwide undocumented-immigration protection program erected by this country's political class remains untouchable and ever-expanding.

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The "sanctuary nation" illegal alien protection program is a form of silent amnesty - and considered politically untouchable by our elite. As Mark Steyn writes, its no wonder every one from 9/11 terrorists to upstanding "undocumented guests" like Jose Carranza can murder Americans at will. Our government does not place must emphasis on ensuring the safety of its own citizens. Bottom line? Another 9/11 is waiting to happen.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

1 posted on 08/19/2007 6:16:16 AM PDT by goldstategop
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To: goldstategop

In 2008, I will vote only for those candidates who vow to eliminate all ‘sanctuary cities’ —


2 posted on 08/19/2007 6:24:39 AM PDT by Edit35
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To: goldstategop
"While the issue of the border fence constituted a huge portion of Hunter's 40-minute presentation, it was not the only issue discussed. Hunter expressed his discontent with the NAFTA Highway, a 12-lane super highway that would connect Mexico with Canada, cutting right through the heartland of the United States. Hunter noted he offered an amendment barring the administration from building this highway, arguing that it is foolish to let Mexican truck drivers on American roads. "We will have people behind the wheel with criminal records and have no way of knowing about it," commented Hunter. And on the same token, Hunter said he would like to see NAFTA repealed. Hunter also said that as president he would pardon Ignacio Ramos and Jose Alonso Compean, the border security agents jailed for trying to apprehend a Mexican drug smuggler. As for the 12 million illegal immigrants already in the nation, Hunter told the crowd, "They have to go home.""

NO compromise, NO "determining who is here", NO "deal", NO "aspirations of citizenship" for the illegal aliens already here.
3 posted on 08/19/2007 6:29:21 AM PDT by Kimberly GG (INVEST IN THE FUTURE - DUNCAN HUNTER '08.....(NO MORE CFRers))
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To: goldstategop
In Newark, N.J., it means an illegal-immigrant child rapist is free to murder on a Saturday night. In Somerville, Mass., it means two deaf girls are raped by MS-13 members. And in Falls Church, Va., it means Saudi Wahhabists figuring out that, if the "sanctuary nation" (in Michelle Malkin's phrases) offers such rich pickings to imported killers and imported gangs, why not to jihadists?


4 posted on 08/19/2007 6:31:03 AM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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To: Kimberly GG

I have listened to Glenn Beck and others on Ramos and Compean. But Lars Larson has come down on the side of prosecution, and the points he makes seem solid to me. It sounds as though Ramos and Compean engaged in a lot of cover-up activity before admitting that they had shot anyone, which is not consistent with the behavior of men who had engaged in legitimate self-defense. I haven’t made up my mind, but I’d appreciate enlightenment.


5 posted on 08/19/2007 6:34:05 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: goldstategop
This is the active collusion by multiple cities and states in the subversion of U.S. sovereignty.

BTTT

6 posted on 08/19/2007 6:40:42 AM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: goldstategop
Speaking Of Sanctuary, Where's Ours?

How about Prince George's County, among others. Three guesses why the perps went where they did. From July...

Area Police Without Policies on Illegal Aliens

7 posted on 08/19/2007 6:42:49 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: mewzilla
House Passes Drake Amendment to Eradicate Sanctuary Cities Amendment withholds federal funding for localities that violate Section 642(a) of the 1996 Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act
8 posted on 08/19/2007 6:44:13 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: mewzilla
Most Americans agree that if you want to get serious about addressing our nation’s failed immigration system, enforcing existing laws is a good place to start.

This was as true in 1996 as it is today, and they still don't listen.

The House passed this in 1996, did the Senate vote on it?

9 posted on 08/19/2007 7:03:18 AM PDT by YellowRoseofTx
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To: goldstategop
A massive backlash is coming the more this kind of stuff happens.

They will never know what hit them and will be amazed at both the intensity of the anger of the American People, and their potent capability to deliver their voice which so far is being ignored.

This is the only logical outcome.

Something has got to give.

Too bad the leaders never saw this coming. Most of us freepers see it, though. And many abroad as well, who look at America in objective reality and see all the signposts, as we pull away from the abyss, as a nation, from Balkanization and foreign occupation.

10 posted on 08/19/2007 7:23:48 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Visit this thread 1-hour from now. In that time, an average of 416.6 more ILLEGALS will be in the US)
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To: goldstategop

Speaking Of Sanctuary, Where’s Ours? ....

american hard working/law abiding/tax paying citizens ~ don’t have any....it is all about the illegals!!!!


11 posted on 08/19/2007 7:26:50 AM PDT by nyyankeefan
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To: goldstategop

I am all for “sanctuary cities”! They should be everywhere.
The only difference would be that those who have “sanctuary” would be THE LEGAL CITIZENS! Sanctuary from the ones who have it now.
http://www.deportthemnow.com/


12 posted on 08/19/2007 7:36:28 AM PDT by hophead ("Enjoy Every Sandwich")
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To: goldstategop
More arrests in the Newark case.

A key suspect in the brutal killings of three college students in Newark was arrested early yesterday in Oxon Hill, where authorities found the 24-year-old Nicaraguan man among a group drinking beer and getting tattooed in a filthy apartment furnished with little more than mattresses on the floor. Twenty minutes later, police arrested his 16-year-old half brother in the basement of a Woodbridge townhouse as the intense manhunt in the execution-style killings moved to the Washington immigrant community, authorities said.

13 posted on 08/19/2007 7:51:43 AM PDT by 1066AD
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To: goldstategop
This is the active collusion by multiple cities and states in the subversion of U.S. sovereignty.

BUMP-TO-THE-TOP!

Great post, great thread. Thanks to all contributors.

14 posted on 08/19/2007 8:00:31 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: YellowRoseofTx
The Senate not only passed it, Bubba signed it into law.
15 posted on 08/19/2007 8:04:07 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: Kimberly GG
a 12-lane super highway that would connect Mexico with Canada

What is going on between Mexico and Canada that they want a 12 lane hookup, an international love affair?

16 posted on 08/19/2007 8:06:05 AM PDT by Griddlee
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To: YellowRoseofTx
I haven't found it on Thomas yet, so FWIW....

IIRIRA 96 - A SUMMARY OF THE NEW IMMIGRATION BILL

17 posted on 08/19/2007 8:07:50 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: goldstategop

18 posted on 08/19/2007 8:11:26 AM PDT by Old_Mil (Rudy = Hillary, Fred = Dole, Romney = Kerry, McCain = Crazy. No Thanks.)
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To: mewzilla
This was from 1996. Has no bearing on the discussion today.
19 posted on 08/19/2007 8:15:33 AM PDT by hophead ("Enjoy Every Sandwich")
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To: hophead
This was from 1996. Has no bearing on the discussion today.

It's still the law of the land, pard.

20 posted on 08/19/2007 8:17:30 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: mewzilla

“It’s still the law of the land, pard.”

Sorry to hear that you actually believe anyone in the government really cares what the law is.


21 posted on 08/19/2007 8:20:30 AM PDT by hophead ("Enjoy Every Sandwich")
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To: hophead

Tell it Lou Barletta. Joe Arpaio. A sheriff in Butler County, OH, whose name escapes me at the moment. There are some good eggs out there.


22 posted on 08/19/2007 8:22:26 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: goldstategop
Bump. This defies any rational explanation.

Regards,

23 posted on 08/19/2007 8:34:56 AM PDT by Thunder 6
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To: goldstategop

Our political leadership values illegrants over American citizens. It sees American citizens as mere chumps to be fleeced.


24 posted on 08/19/2007 8:35:19 AM PDT by ought-six ("Give me liberty, or give me death!")
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Agreed.


25 posted on 08/19/2007 8:38:04 AM PDT by ought-six ("Give me liberty, or give me death!")
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To: Arthur McGowan
Dear Arthur, here is the enlightenment you requested. The United States of America is a sovereign nation. We have borders for a distinct purpose; they define our territory, and allow us to control ingress and egress of people and goods.

Now this probably comes a complete shock to you Arthur, but there are bad people in this world. They do very bad things that hurt good people. Smuggling drugs across our sovereign border is a bad thing. The people to do this are bad people. They've chosen to live outside the rules of civilized society. Therefor, they deserve no mercy or consideration. To wit, they need to be exterminated from the face of the earth in much the same manner that you would attempt to excise a malignant tumor that was causing the slow, tortuous death of your own body.

I would suggest that an announcement be made that any person attempting to this country illegally henceforth will be shot and killed on sight. All illegals should be deported immediately and any US citizen employing an illegal alien will be immediately face arrest, trial, fines, and imprisonment.

That enough enlightenment for you Art??

26 posted on 08/19/2007 8:38:14 AM PDT by Doc Savage ("You couldn't tame me, but you taught me.................")
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To: goldstategop

Steyn bump.

Multiculturalism is the HIV of western civilization.


27 posted on 08/19/2007 8:39:39 AM PDT by Maynerd (Bush is trying to sell a "War on Terror" against a "Religion of Peace." Confusing isn't it?)
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To: Maynerd

Diversity is when you invite your enemy to come live with you.


28 posted on 08/19/2007 9:21:54 AM PDT by Corey Ohlis (Visualize Swirled Peas)
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To: MojoWire

I will also vote to do the same! eliminate sanctuary cities, I will also suggest we force our elected officials to hold back state aid until they conform. REMEMBER WHEN WE SLEEP THE RATS PLAY!


29 posted on 08/19/2007 9:26:05 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (I'd rather be hunting with dick than driving with ted)
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To: goldstategop

If this were some sort of alternate universe and the illegal invasion involved a group that consisted of white males, the problem would have already been solved by the lawmakers. And the media would be on board 100%.


30 posted on 08/19/2007 9:29:44 AM PDT by cpanter
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Lets hope you are right. This last round with the dead amnesty was a good sign that Americans have had enough and do wake up sometimes.
Nobody other than the globalists want Mexican trucks here. If they come I expect there to be trouble. American truckers need to be one the front line.


31 posted on 08/19/2007 9:36:01 AM PDT by mefistofelerevised
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To: MojoWire
In 2008, I will vote only for those candidates who vow to eliminate all ‘sanctuary cities’ —

BTTT!

32 posted on 08/19/2007 9:53:16 AM PDT by janetgreen
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To: Griddlee

“What is going on between Mexico and Canada that they want a 12 lane hookup, an international love affair?”

Exclusive: Goodbye America, Hello North American Union
http://familysecuritymatters.org/homeland.php?id=1150976

In a month, August 20 and 21, the leaders of the United States, Canada, and Mexico will sit down together in Montebello, Quebec to discuss making the borders between these three nations disappear. They will discuss progress on a vast highway project passing through America to link Mexico with Canada.

So far, no one has asked the citizens of these three nations whether they want to do this. It is not up for a vote in Congress and, indeed, Congress has no supervision over the gnomes in the U.S. Department of Commerce who are busily “harmonizing” the laws under the auspices of the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America (SPP).

This, we’re told, is not a treaty so Congress has no constitutional oversight obligation. I guess it’s more like a nice big handshake between the presidents and prime minister of these three nations who, let’s face it, just know better than the rest of us. I mean, do Canadians really think they’re in charge of Canada? Americans should have a say about programs affecting America? Or has anyone asked Mexicans if they want to be part of some “harmonized” configuration not unlike the European Union?

Last time I checked, the European Union lacked a constitution because some of its member states, notably France, had rejected the one that was offered. The Constitutions of the United States, Canada and Mexico are about three sovereign states determining their own regulations and laws. So far, fourteen U.S. States have passed resolutions in their respective and sovereign legislatures directing the federal government to abandon further activities involving SPP.

Part of the opposition is directed at what is generally called the NAFTA Superhighway; an exceptionally wide corridor that would include rail lines, freeways, and pipelines from Mexico to the Canadian border. The Texas legislature passed a law intended to slow down the highway project with a two-year moratorium. The vote in the Texas House was 137-2. The Texas Senate passed it with only four votes in opposition, but the Governor vetoed it in late June, thus opening the door to the seizure of the private property needed for the Trans Texas Corridor (TCC).

Turns out that Texas had already signed a 50-year lease with a private Spanish company named Cintra, one that permits for no competition by way of building new government roads or improving existing ones going in the same direction.

Why are we not surprised to know that SPP was kicked off in 2005 by a meeting in Crawford, Texas of the then-presidents of the three nations hosted by President George W. Bush, a former Governor of Texas?

Bush has been a leading proponent of the “immigration reform” legislation that more than two-thirds of Americans polled say they do not want. Tucked into those “reforms” were provisions to advance SPP. A Teddy Kennedy amendment to S. 1348 asserts that, “It is the sense of the Congress that the United States and Mexico should accelerate the implementation of the Partnership for Prosperity to help generate economic growth and improve the standard of living in Mexico, which will lead to reduced immigration.” Oh, yeah? And here I thought the economic well being of Mexico was the job of the Mexican government.

As this is written, the President and the Congress have the lowest popularity ratings ever. Perhaps it has something to do with a secretive process involving the highest levels of government and a consortium of multinational corporations who are eager for the nation-busting North American Union and the superhighway?

Indeed, “secretive” is the mode of operation for SPP from the beginning. Last year, from September 12 to 14, a gathering sponsored by something called the North American Forum, brought together some very powerful people, but the media was not informed about it, nor has a list of attendees been available. One Canadian commentator has written that, “There is no better indication that these meetings and the SPP itself, constitute a parallel governing structure—unaccountable to any democratic institution or the public.”

This is not the way America, Canada, and presumably, Mexico, is supposed to be governed. The public outcry against the proposed immigration reform bill was enough to kill it in its present form.

In his book, “The Late Great U.S.A.” ($25.95, WND Books), Jerome R. Corsi, Ph.D., warns that, “There are movements afoot in Mexico, Canada, and the United States, similar to those in Europe that led to the formation of the European Union that, if left unchecked, will erode U.S. sovereignty and lead to a North American Union.”

Perhaps when Congress begins to raise our taxes, authorize a superhighway, and offer yet another amnesty to millions of illegal aliens, the American people may take notice and want to do something about it. By then, however, it will be too late.

That’s what President Bush is counting on. Meanwhile, he has a big calendar counting down the days to January 20, 2008 when he can start cashing in on having sold out the rest of us.


33 posted on 08/19/2007 10:04:55 AM PDT by Kimberly GG (INVEST IN THE FUTURE - DUNCAN HUNTER '08.....(NO MORE CFRers))
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To: Kimberly GG
What will Mexico be transporting to Canada that requires a 12-lane highway?

And what will Canada send to Mexico?

12 lanes would make sense to transport a hundred million Mexicans to Canada.

34 posted on 08/19/2007 11:10:49 AM PDT by Griddlee
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

ping


35 posted on 08/19/2007 11:46:24 AM PDT by gubamyster
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To: mewzilla
“Lou Barletta. Joe Arpaio”

True Americans, but unfortunately, tiny fish in this bowl. We need THOUSANDS and THOUSANDS more like these gentleman to bail the leak in this boat.

36 posted on 08/19/2007 11:49:33 AM PDT by hophead ("Enjoy Every Sandwich")
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To: Kimberly GG

If we don’t get a Hunter type leader by 08, the only choice we will have is civil disobedience.


37 posted on 08/19/2007 1:42:08 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: mewzilla

I don’t get it. Why make new laws when the Federal Government refuses to acknowledge those already on the books?


38 posted on 08/19/2007 2:24:48 PM PDT by yorkie
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To: goldstategop

At Christmas we have NORAD to track Santa Claus!

http://www.noradsanta.org/index.php

NOW you have ELVIRAD to track fugitive ELVIRA!!

http://www.illinoisminuteman.com/Elvira.htm


39 posted on 08/19/2007 2:58:32 PM PDT by chicagolady (Mexican Elite say: EXPORT Poverty Let the American Taxpayer foot the bill !)
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To: goldstategop

Bump for later.

What happened to the Mark Steyn ping list? I know I was on one...


40 posted on 08/19/2007 4:45:34 PM PDT by GATOR NAVY (Hey! Must be a devil between us)
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To: hophead
Sorry to hear that you actually believe anyone in the government really cares what the law is.

Indeed. Note the fact that congress regularly disregards the supreme law of the land, the Constitution of the U.S. They, at times, make passing reference to it and then go on to vote on more "programs" that are not allowed by the Constitution. What ever happened to adherence to the enumerated powers GRANTED by the U.S. Constitution? Congress has NO power other than that granted to it by that document, which is ignored it seems.

41 posted on 08/21/2007 3:38:43 PM PDT by mc5cents (Show me just what Mohammd brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman)
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