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Question of Sons’ Choices Dogs Romney Campaign
NYT ^ | MICHAEL LUO

Posted on 08/19/2007 6:28:06 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion

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To: Calpernia
You don’t type very clear. I still can’t tell from your posts as to whether you think Kerry was a war hero or not; nor can I tell what you were disputing with my post since now you are agrreeing CIC is head of military forces.

Kerry was a war hero (I have not been awarded the Silver Star - have you?). Some have disputed the exact circumstances of his service, but the fact is that the military recognized him as a war hero at the time. My sarcasm dealt with the fact that he continually put that out as if it overcame the disgraceful conduct he has engaged in since that time. Many war heroes become bums later. Some conservative war heroes become bums later (Duke Cunningham comes to mind). That is why serving in the military is not a qualification to be President - honorable service only says that you did something right at one time in your life.

My dispute with your main point is that being CIC does not require service. CIC is a policy position, not a position that "runs" the military. The military "runs" the military, within the policy constraints put on it by civilian leadership. The question is not whether Mitt or any of his sons served. The question is whether Mitt would put forward policies that would keep the military strong enough to protect this country against all enemies foreign and domestic. I am not yet sure about that, but I have no qualms about his or his son's lack of service.

Is that clear enough for you?

101 posted on 08/19/2007 3:58:05 PM PDT by BruceS
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To: BruceS

If you can prove he was ‘awarded’ the Silver Star, I will bow to your expertise.


102 posted on 08/19/2007 4:01:38 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: BruceS
I am not yet sure about that, but I have no qualms about his or his son's lack of service.

I do.

I agree that military service is not, and should not be, a qualification for President. History shows that great military leaders are not always good Presidents, and great Presidents have sometimes not served.

But a President is more than a policy wonk. He's a leader of his people. If he's asking them to sacrifice their sons - as he might have to do - then he better be willing to make the sacrifice himself.

It won't do to say that they are adults, capable of making their own decisions. They are members of a society as well as individuals, and children of their father.

103 posted on 08/19/2007 4:04:56 PM PDT by liberallarry
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To: BruceS

“Kerry was a war hero “

Tell that to the Swift Boat Vets.

btw, the Swift Boat Vets are supporting DUNCAN HUNTER.

And how appropriate - heroes helping heroes.


104 posted on 08/19/2007 4:08:54 PM PDT by Sun (Duncan Hunter: pro-life/borders, understands Red China threat! http://www.gohunter08.com/Home.aspx)
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To: Calpernia
I don't want to debate Kerry's service (he was actually awarded the Silver Star, Bronze Star with V device and three Purple Hearts). It was well documented during the election, I can't "prove" it (especially since I don't really care). My point was that service in the military is not a pre-requisite to be President, although it can add to a resume.
105 posted on 08/19/2007 4:10:30 PM PDT by BruceS
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To: BruceS

I didn’t bring Kerry up. But I can understand you not wanting to debate someone being give a Silver Star for beaching his boat in front of enemy gunners.

>>>My point was that service in the military is not a pre-requisite to be President,

I never said it was a pre-requisite.


106 posted on 08/19/2007 4:13:03 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: ozzie

Some RAT tried this with ambush interviews at a College Republican convention and then put it on Youtube. Unbelievable. They will stop at nothing to undermine morale.


107 posted on 08/19/2007 4:17:03 PM PDT by balch3
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To: Calpernia
I didn’t bring Kerry up. But I can understand you not wanting to debate someone being give a Silver Star for beaching his boat in front of enemy gunners.

Calpernia, you make me tired. First you ask that I "prove" Kerry was awarded a Silver Star, then you show that you already knew the circumstances. I didn't award it to him. I also didn't bring Kerry up in response to you.

I never said it was a pre-requisite.

No, you said:It is insane for people to think that no prior military experience is ok for the position to run the military.

You might not have used the word pre-requisite, but lack of insanity seems to be a pre-requisite

108 posted on 08/19/2007 4:22:31 PM PDT by BruceS
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To: BruceS

I’m not the one comparing an anti war protester to a hero. Pot meet kettle.


109 posted on 08/19/2007 4:28:58 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: All

Listen to the no-nonsense conversation with DUNCAN HUNTER including WOT, borders, China’s cheating with trade, socialized medicine, aka universal health care (he is against it), etc.

After listening to him, compare him with other candidates, and I don’t think you’ll find any other candidate who is NEARLY as astute on ALL of the issues.

Click on the video at below link, and listen while you post and surf:

http://www.koat.com/politics/11847228/detail.html#


110 posted on 08/19/2007 4:32:45 PM PDT by Sun (Duncan Hunter: pro-life/borders, understands Red China threat! http://www.gohunter08.com/Home.aspx)
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To: All

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111 posted on 08/19/2007 4:46:54 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Paperdoll
Of course, skerry served but I would hardly call him validated by that service. (giggle)
112 posted on 08/20/2007 4:52:10 AM PDT by tioga
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