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School deaths that stunned black America
The Guardian ^ | August 19, 2007

Posted on 08/19/2007 12:52:27 PM PDT by John Jorsett

Newark is a 25-minute train ride across the Hudson River from the skyscrapers of Manhattan. But its tough streets, scarred by violence and drugs, feel a world away.

Now, after a brutal multiple murder in a school playground, Newark is at the centre of a bout of national soul-searching about life in urban America and the violence that marks so much of the experience of inner-city black youth.

The crime has caused shock across the nation not because the victims were involved in a tit-for-tat piece of ghetto violence, but because they were not. They were four young black Americans who had done everything right to grow up unscathed by Newark's social problems. Beating the odds, they had emerged with clean records, bright futures and university degrees ahead of them. But even they could not succeed.

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The result has been a lightning-quick investigation. Already three men are under arrest. One is Jose Carranza, 28, an illegal immigrant from Peru who was already out on bail on sexual assault charges. A key part of the case is information from the sole survivor. Natasha Aerial has been helping police from her hospital bed, including looking through pictures of suspects. She is under constant armed guard to protect her from the witness intimidation attacks that have been a hallmark of the stop snitching movement.

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Incredibly it seems that these murders have succeeded where 40 years of politics have failed. Newark, at last, is showing signs of forcefully tackling its problems. Booker unveiled a tough local gun law last week. It could eventually include setting up special 'gun courts' to deal specifically with gun crimes. A new $3m (£1.5m) network of surveillance cameras and gunshot detectors is planned, partly funded by a flood of donations from Newark's citizens.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: New Jersey; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: carranza; cities; criminalaliens; newark; urban
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1 posted on 08/19/2007 12:52:28 PM PDT by John Jorsett
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There’s a civil war in the making between blacks and hispanics, and it will only take a few sparks like this to set it off.


2 posted on 08/19/2007 12:55:47 PM PDT by kms61
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If there is truly a Black America, they don’t give a damn.

Black culture as it exists in cites accepts murder of young people as normal everyday business.

Young men protect turf. Young women abort


3 posted on 08/19/2007 12:56:48 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Hillary's color is yellow.....how appropriate)
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Ah, I was waiting for the “punchline”, and there it is—”They need tighter gun control”. Nothing like gun control to keep a young man from being stabbed in the neck and killed at a takeaway food place.


4 posted on 08/19/2007 12:57:56 PM PDT by mrsmel
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To: John Jorsett
It could eventually include setting up special 'gun courts' to deal specifically with gun crimes. A new $3m (£1.5m) network of surveillance cameras and gunshot detectors is planned, partly funded by a flood of donations from Newark's citizens.

Glad to see they are finally taking actions that will put an end to the violence!

5 posted on 08/19/2007 12:58:20 PM PDT by OCC
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To: John Jorsett
Incredibly it seems that these murders have succeeded where 40 years of politics have failed. Newark, at last, is showing signs of forcefully tackling its problems. Booker unveiled a tough local gun law last week. It could eventually include setting up special 'gun courts' to deal specifically with gun crimes. A new $3m (£1.5m) network of surveillance cameras and gunshot detectors is planned, partly funded by a flood of donations from Newark's citizens.

Build more prisons. Lock up the violent felons. Deport the illegal aliens, especially the criminals, drug addicts, gang members, and mentally ill. AND BUILD THE G$%DAMN FENCE! Problem solved, WITHOUT Orwellian Big-Brother solutions.

6 posted on 08/19/2007 12:58:30 PM PDT by lesser_satan (Fred Thompson '08)
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Completely missing in this article is any mention of Jose Carranza’s background: arrested for 31 counts of rape against a 5-year-old girl and threats to murder her parents if they testified against him. Arrested for a bar fight. This guy’s an illegal alien who’s been arrested for numerous crimes, yet he’s not being detained for deportation, and is walking around on bail. Newark, meanwhile, is a sanctuary city for illegals. If I were the parents, I’d be pounding on my elected officials for their enabling of this criminal.


7 posted on 08/19/2007 12:58:49 PM PDT by John Jorsett (scam never sleeps)
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To: John Jorsett
Incredibly it seems that these murders have succeeded where 40 years of politics have failed. Newark, at last, is showing signs of forcefully tackling its problems. Booker unveiled a tough local gun law last week. It could eventually include setting up special 'gun courts' to deal specifically with gun crimes. A new $3m (£1.5m) network of surveillance cameras and gunshot detectors is planned, partly funded by a flood of donations from Newark's citizens.

As long as the people and elected officials in Newark delude themselves into thinking that guns are the freaking problem, the next 40 years in that sh!t-hole will be no different than the last 40.

8 posted on 08/19/2007 12:58:56 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (I'm out on the outskirts of nowhere . . . with ghosts on my trail, chasing me there.)
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If this results in a community recognizing it’s problems and realistic solutions and more active policing it could be a breakthrough for Newark. If it results in more pointless gun laws it will be a failure.


9 posted on 08/19/2007 1:01:37 PM PDT by saganite (Billions and billions and billions----and that's just the NASA budget!)
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To: John Jorsett
These murders have stunned all Americans. They were just so useless and brutal. We have a major problem growing in this country, and that is an unnatural indifference to human life. It is truly frightening.
10 posted on 08/19/2007 1:01:55 PM PDT by CremeSaver
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To: bert

“If there is truly a Black America, they don’t give a damn.”

Where is the outrage?

Shouldn’t Sharpton & Jackson be all over this, since they are so concerned about the plight of blacks?

They don’t seem to be interested unless they can somehow blame whitey.


11 posted on 08/19/2007 1:02:02 PM PDT by Califreak (Go Hunter!)
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To: John Jorsett

“A tough local gun law..” Whoop-de-do~~!

The bums in charge of Newark still dont get it. He should be hanging in the public square the judge who let the illegal alien savage out on bond for a previous rape of a 5 year old girl.


12 posted on 08/19/2007 1:03:33 PM PDT by Weeedley (Let your plans be dark and impenetrable as night, and when you move, fall like a thunderbolt.)
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To: Califreak

Running to the cameras in this case will do no good, since neither of them speaks Spanish and their idiotic rantings won’t be very effective when translated on TeleMundo.


13 posted on 08/19/2007 1:03:37 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (I'm out on the outskirts of nowhere . . . with ghosts on my trail, chasing me there.)
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To: CremeSaver

No kidding. These were bright looking, fresh faced kids full of promise. I don’t care what color their skin is, seeing that snuffed out is heartbreaking.


14 posted on 08/19/2007 1:06:24 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (Fight the illegal Mexican colonizers & imperialist conquistadors! Long live the resistance!)
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15 posted on 08/19/2007 1:07:25 PM PDT by ricks_place
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To: John Jorsett

Illegal Immigrant Sanctuary Protects Murderer

Dozens of cities across the nation offer illegal immigrant sanctuaries. One of them is Newark, New Jersey. Had this city contacted federal immigration officials after illegal alien Jose Carranza’s first felony indictment for raping a five-year old, he would have been deported and therefore prevented from later murdering three youngsters in a schoolyard.

The murders have fueled further outrage over the government’s failure to stem the tide of invasion from the south. “I guess these immigrants are doing the crimes Americans are unwilling to do,” said one disgusted Newark resident who requested his name not be published.

read more...

http://www.azconservative.org/Semmens1.htm


16 posted on 08/19/2007 1:07:55 PM PDT by John Semmens
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It could eventually include setting up special 'gun courts' to deal specifically with gun crimes.

You gotta love this!

17 posted on 08/19/2007 1:10:58 PM PDT by jaz.357 (...diagonally parked in a parallel universe.)
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To: John Jorsett

You fall short. This should be no less offensive and as equally fraught with personal liability as it is today to let a person go for DWI. Remember the DWI stink over the ball player in Seattle. He wasn’t given any slack and the reason was simple. Anyone who knowingly lets a drunk driver get a free pass is going to be liable if the person ‘enabled’ goes on to do harm under the influence. Should be the same standard for overlooking immigration laws.


18 posted on 08/19/2007 1:14:38 PM PDT by kinghorse
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To: CremeSaver

I don’t think it is an unnatural indifference to human life. I think it is a very natural indifference, and that some societies have managed to climb out of that pit is a miracle, and yet we take it for granted. IMO, xenophobia is a natural state, and non-prejudice is what must be carefully taught. Bring in people of a very different culture by the millions; don’t assimilate them, and this is what you get.

Mrs VS


19 posted on 08/19/2007 1:17:13 PM PDT by VeritatisSplendor
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To: Califreak
“If there is truly a Black America, they don’t give a damn.”

Where is the outrage?

Shouldn’t Sharpton & Jackson be all over this, since they are so concerned about the plight of blacks?

They don’t seem to be interested unless they can somehow blame whitey.

There's just not enough money or coverage in anything you can't blame whitey for.

20 posted on 08/19/2007 1:25:18 PM PDT by Luke Skyfreeper
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To: John Jorsett

Child molesters should be killed - period. And any illegal alien convicted of using a gun whilst committing a crime should also be killed - period. While harsh, these policies would cut down on crime, and pronto!!

OK, bleeding hearts — tear into me...SSZ


21 posted on 08/19/2007 1:28:18 PM PDT by szweig (I'd love someone to explain the reason for such names...)
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To: kms61
There’s a civil war in the making between blacks and hispanics, and it will only take a few sparks like this to set it off.

As tragic as these murders were, there is some good that can come from it...using the rage of the black "community" to move local action against illegals.

22 posted on 08/19/2007 1:31:09 PM PDT by montag813
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Never fear, some idiot will start some “community outreach” program that shows how it’s all the fault of “the man”.


23 posted on 08/19/2007 1:33:44 PM PDT by mrsmel
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To: John Jorsett
What I find appalling is that Cory Booker, the Mayor of Newark is so willing to facilitate
the murder of the Black College students in order to follow the party line of the Democrat/Anarchist party which supports the invasion of America by thugs of AZTLAN (MEChA).

24 posted on 08/19/2007 1:34:30 PM PDT by XeniaSt (you shall know that I, YHvH, your Savior, and your Redeemer, am the Elohim of Ya'aqob. Isaiah 60:16)
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This article is nothing but a disgusting liberal smoke screen. It's written to imply that an American and black urban "culture of violence," not one or more individual illegal aliens, murdered the three young people. Those who read it will learn nothing about the real causes of the crime and the nature of the perps. It wasn't black on black violence or a gang dispute. Instead, it was one or more illegals and their accomplices deliberately murdering three innocent Americans, who happened to be black, for the sheer pleasure of the murder. The lesson, as pointed out by many other posters here is very simple: deport the illegals, prosecute the perps, and enforce the criminal law.
25 posted on 08/19/2007 1:35:14 PM PDT by libstripper
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To: szweig
OK, bleeding hearts — tear into me...SSZ

Not me, I'd vote for someone on that platform (assuming they had their heads screwed on right on other priority issues).
26 posted on 08/19/2007 1:35:26 PM PDT by mrsmel
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To: John Jorsett

Blank slate theory gone wild, or another useless liberal ends up as a journalist.


27 posted on 08/19/2007 1:37:22 PM PDT by junta (It's Jihad stupid! It's the borders stupid! It's Political Correctness stupid!)
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To: John Jorsett
Image hosted by Photobucket.com On October 11, 1798, President John Adams addressed the officers of the First Brigade of the Third Division of the Militia of Massachusetts in a letter: 'We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge, or gallantry, would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.'
28 posted on 08/19/2007 1:38:37 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist)
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To: kms61
You are correct and it is already simmering in places like LA and Miami. The conflict will also come because of competition for jobs and political power. Hispanics are now the largest minority and their numbers are growing twice as fast as the general population.

From the The Hispanic Challenge By Samuel P. Huntington

"Dual-language programs, which go one step beyond bilingual education, have become increasingly popular. In these programs, students are taught in both English and Spanish on an alternating basis with a view to making English-speakers fluent in Spanish and Spanish-speakers fluent in English, thus making Spanish the equal of English and transforming the United States into a two-language country. Then U.S. Secretary of Education Richard Riley explicitly endorsed these programs in his March 2000 speech, “Excelencia para Todos—Excellence for all.” Civil rights organizations, church leaders (particularly Catholic ones), and many politicians (Republican as well as Democrat) support the impetus toward bilingualism.

"Perhaps equally important, business groups seeking to corner the Hispanic market support bilingualism as well. Indeed, the orientation of U.S. businesses to Hispanic customers means they increasingly need bilingual employees; therefore, bilingualism is affecting earnings. Bilingual police officers and firefighters in southwestern cities such as Phoenix and Las Vegas are paid more than those who only speak English. In Miami, one study found, families that spoke only Spanish had average incomes of $18,000; English-only families had average incomes of $32,000; and bilingual families averaged more than $50,000. For the first time in U.S. history, increasing numbers of Americans (particularly black Americans) will not be able to receive the jobs or the pay they would otherwise receive because they can speak to their fellow citizens only in English."

Changes in the U.S. racial balance underlie these concerns. Non-Hispanic whites dropped from 75.6 percent of the population in 1990 to 69.1 percent in 2000. In California—as in Hawaii, New Mexico, and the District of Columbia—non-Hispanic whites are now a minority. Demographers predict that, by 2040, non-Hispanic whites could be a minority of all Americans. Moreover, for several decades, interest groups and government elites have promoted racial preferences and affirmative action, which favor blacks and nonwhite immigrants. Meanwhile, pro-globalization policies have shifted jobs outside the United States, aggravated income inequality, and promoted declining real wages for working-class Americans.

29 posted on 08/19/2007 1:40:46 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Chode

Our first leaders were very smart. What happened?


30 posted on 08/19/2007 1:42:13 PM PDT by mrsmel
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Image hosted by Photobucket.com Devolution???
31 posted on 08/19/2007 1:43:44 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist)
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” gunshot detectors ‘

“Ma, the gunshot detector is going off!”
“Which one, Keyshawn Lewella?”
“The one in the kitchen!”
“Where’s grandma?”
“She’s watching the microwave oven.”
“Grandma better not be cookin’ bullets again, Keyshawn.”
“Oh, dang...”


32 posted on 08/19/2007 1:47:12 PM PDT by gcruse (Let's strike Iran while it's hot.)
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To: mrsmel

Our first leaders were very smart. What happened?

We started electing Democrats;)


33 posted on 08/19/2007 1:49:04 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: CremeSaver
"These murders have stunned all Americans.'

That's because we were allowed to hear about them. Same didn't apply to the Wichita murders.

Media Ignore Kansas Interracial Mass Murder

34 posted on 08/19/2007 1:52:51 PM PDT by gcruse (Let's strike Iran while it's hot.)
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To: Frank_2001; Chode

Great minds and all... :)


35 posted on 08/19/2007 1:53:21 PM PDT by mrsmel
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To: mrsmel

Bingo!


36 posted on 08/19/2007 1:53:28 PM PDT by chasio649
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To: gcruse

I did hear about that somehow. I don’t remember how.


37 posted on 08/19/2007 1:54:02 PM PDT by mrsmel
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To: John Jorsett

If you want to look at the political future of America, this may be the story. Black America has more interest in supporting the delusions of a African American sex worker accusing rich white preppies of a crime that never occurred than they do showing outrage at a senseless slaughter of three of their own who were on the right track, and trying to escape the misery of the ghetto the only way possible through education. In fact there was more outrage and finger pointing against Imus whose violence was rhetorical, than against this illegal slime who killed poor ghetto youth simply because these were the only victims easily accessible, and he was unable to navigate his way in the suburban white middle class where who would have done the same evil deed if he could have. African Americans live on the Democrat plantation and there you do not go against the political master, such as Teddy Kennedy who wants and needs the illegals to become legal and enhance the Democrat power for future generations.


38 posted on 08/19/2007 1:56:50 PM PDT by Biblebelter
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To: ricks_place

these didnt help Vick I guess.


39 posted on 08/19/2007 1:58:25 PM PDT by isom35
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To: John Jorsett

If I were the parents, I’d be pounding on my elected officials for their enabling of this criminal.

And if ‘Black America’ cared so would they, especially the fact that the ringleader was an illegal alien.


40 posted on 08/19/2007 1:59:40 PM PDT by sheana
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To: junta
another useless liberal ends up as a journalist.
You don't understand - journalists are never "liberal," they are always "objective." But they always think exactly alike. Just like George Stephanopolis instantly became "objective" when he got the gig as journalist on TV. And just as Walter Cronkite was "objective" until he started writing as commentary what his true feelings had been all along, and what all the other journalists think. And if he got another gig as a journalist tomorrow, he would, instantly, be "objective" all over again.

41 posted on 08/19/2007 2:24:12 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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Why does this keep happening? When are the American people going to make it clear to the government this illegal alien stuff has got to be stopped or out they go! Why aren't those people demonstrating and demanding their government officials make sure that this does not happen again.
42 posted on 08/19/2007 2:24:57 PM PDT by red irish (Gods Children in the womb are to be loved too!)
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So the article focuses on guns, not the illegal immigrant? And on black crime, when the victims were black, not the killer?

So long as any issue is viewed through leftist rose colored glasses, you will never get improvement. They ignore common sense and try to cram every event into their left wing agenda.

Gun courts???? This was a murder. He'll get life because NJ won't execute anyone. No gun court is going to prevent or punish this crime any differently.

43 posted on 08/19/2007 2:47:02 PM PDT by Williams
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To: Califreak

There is also no money in it.


44 posted on 08/19/2007 3:49:54 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Hillary's color is yellow.....how appropriate)
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To: John Jorsett

This outrage should have started long before the incident. Blacks murder thousands of other blacks a year. The Jesse Jackson’s of this world should spend more time worrying about that and less about Don Imus or someother pointless controversy that will do nothing to improve real people’s lives.


45 posted on 08/19/2007 4:03:51 PM PDT by SmoothTalker
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To: gcruse

Oh my gosh, I never heard of this. Despicable.


46 posted on 08/19/2007 6:48:09 PM PDT by CremeSaver
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To: John Jorsett

In Newark, the elected officials don’t give a damn.


47 posted on 08/19/2007 6:51:48 PM PDT by sport
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To: Williams
You've nailed the defects in the article. Leftists always think the solution is gun control. They never lay any responsibility on criminals...especially if those criminals are protected racial minorities.

The politicians are too blind to see the black and latino communities are locked in a war over unskilled labor and the illegal drug trade. Instead, they focus on the outward symptoms of murder and mayhem. That becomes another excuse for more gun control...as if it would make any difference.

The black victims in the case were succeeding in getting a decent education and lifting themselves out of poverty. Their road to success was ended by criminal illegal aliens. On average, 12 American citizens are killed by illegal aliens every day in the United States.

48 posted on 08/19/2007 7:16:12 PM PDT by Myrddin
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Thank you for the statistic. The democrats are supposed to be the protectors of black rights, and to be promoting economic progress for black Americans.

Instead, democrats are telling black Americans to go straight to hell, as millions of illegal aliens are brought in to dominate the economic and political landscape. And they get away with this.

49 posted on 08/19/2007 7:45:27 PM PDT by Williams
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To: Williams
Democrats have been the undoing of black Americans. They destroyed families by creating a welfare state that made it more attractive to create large families with unwed mothers. Multiple generations have been born to this disaster spawned by LBJ's "Great Society". At the same time, the pro-abortion forces have made abortion easy. Nearly 1200 black babies are aborted everyday in the U.S. The black kids who beat the abortionist are raised in fatherless homes, educated in crappy schools and influenced by foul-mouth rap music. That's hardly a formula for success.

I applaud the kids who work hard and succeed. My judo teacher and digital electronics teacher were both black guys. Outstanding by any measure. My current project manager and many project colleagues are black. They all have EE degrees. All are "can do" people who deliver good quality results in a timely fashion. Success is a great thing to observe. We need more of that and less pandering to those who won't make an effort.

50 posted on 08/19/2007 9:40:43 PM PDT by Myrddin
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