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Feminists' Hot Air
New York Post ^ | August 20, 2007 | Carrie Lukas

Posted on 08/20/2007 8:23:42 AM PDT by ReleaseTheHounds

TO thunderous acclaim from the liberal intelligentsia, a team of feminist icons - including Gloria Steinem and Jane Fonda - last year launched a women-run radio network. The mainstream media dutifully parroted press releases describing the launch as a "breakthrough" for women in the male-dominated world of talk radio.

The Boston Globe, for example, proclaimed that "GreenStone gives women an outlet." Business Week described the venture as "Talk Radio Minus The Testosterone."

Last Friday, GreenStone Media signed off for good. Why did this effort fail?

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: carrielukas; feminism; feminists; fonda; ingraham; janefonda; liberaltalkradio; steinem; talkradio
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Great piece on the latest flop by liberal radio "pioneers". Laura Ingraham opened her show quoting this and discussing the implications. I hope Rush gives it some time and attention.
1 posted on 08/20/2007 8:23:46 AM PDT by ReleaseTheHounds
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To: ReleaseTheHounds
SSFMKS Ping!
2 posted on 08/20/2007 8:25:08 AM PDT by ReleaseTheHounds ("You ask, 'What is our aim?' I can answer in one word: VICTORY - victory - at all costs...")
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To: grellis; maine-iac7; jnygrl; American Quilter; Semper Paratus; CougarGA7; absolootezer0; ...
SSFMKS Ping!
3 posted on 08/20/2007 8:26:21 AM PDT by ReleaseTheHounds ("You ask, 'What is our aim?' I can answer in one word: VICTORY - victory - at all costs...")
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To: ReleaseTheHounds; Froufrou
but also included programming that was downright girly. Morning show segments included "Mean Mommy," with advice for mothers, and "What's up with Guys," providing insights into the elusive male brain.

What a farce. The elusive male brain? Men are easy to understand, folks. It's the female brain that man has no chance of decoding.
4 posted on 08/20/2007 8:26:32 AM PDT by JamesP81 (Keep your friends close; keep your enemies at optimal engagement range)
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To: ReleaseTheHounds

Like women need another way to talk :D (I’m a woman, is it OK if I say that?)


5 posted on 08/20/2007 8:26:49 AM PDT by mrsmel
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To: ReleaseTheHounds

They don’t need a network. They’ve already got one. It’s called NPR.

Geez.


6 posted on 08/20/2007 8:26:55 AM PDT by RexBeach ("Americans never quit." Douglas MacArthur)
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To: ReleaseTheHounds
GreenStone gave credence to the notion feminists are liberals with the X chromosome. There's not much difference between a male and a female liberal. They both support abortion.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

7 posted on 08/20/2007 8:30:04 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: ReleaseTheHounds
GreenStone offered the typical liberal fare - boasting of interviews with Ralph Nader and Alec Baldwin - but also included programming that was downright girly. Morning show segments included "Mean Mommy," with advice for mothers, and "What's up with Guys," providing insights into the elusive male brain. GreenStone's problem was it couldn't attract an audience of either gender. The programming was picked up by only eight affiliates in small to mid-sized markets. Apparently, GreenStone's programming wasn't the talk that women really want.

GreenStone's president and CEO Susan Ness laments the end of its programming as a loss for women, opining that "women need a voice on commercial radio," and "radio needs women's voices." Perhaps Ness should use her time off to tune in to other stations. She'll find there are many prominent women on the airwaves; they're just not saying what she thinks they should.

GreenStone Media's brand of tepid liberalism didn't appeal to women. This isn't a tragedy for women; it's the market at work. Women will continue to listen to the radio and women talk-show hosts will continue to compete to earn their interest.

8 posted on 08/20/2007 8:31:03 AM PDT by subterfuge (Today, Tolerance =greatest virtue;Hypocrisy=worst character defect; Discrimination =worst atrocity)
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To: ReleaseTheHounds

Whatever happened to Algore TV? And why isn’t he broadcasting his tirades from that network?


9 posted on 08/20/2007 8:34:27 AM PDT by Duke Nukum (...no more I follow, no more obedience pay.)
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To: subterfuge
GreenStone's president and CEO Susan Ness laments the end of its programming as a loss for women, opining that "women need a voice on commercial radio,"

But apparently not GreenStone's voice! I remember the announcement of the launch of this effort, but that's all I ever heard till the announcement of its demise last week.

10 posted on 08/20/2007 8:34:56 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: ReleaseTheHounds

This radio program failed due to a lack of a federal government mandate requiring people to listen and support it.


11 posted on 08/20/2007 8:36:03 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: JamesP81
providing insights into the elusive male brain

HAHAHAHAHAhahahahahahaha....

Wife gets a magazine - Redbook, or something like that. In between the recipes and ads for feminine hygene products, there's always an article or two on "What YOUR man wants".

Written for women, by women. How the h*ll do they know what I want?

And, why waste pages of typeface on it. Mostly, I'd say that men want "To be Left Alone." A more pithy comment would be "Control of the TV remote." or for women to "Show up naked and bring beer."

12 posted on 08/20/2007 8:36:13 AM PDT by wbill
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To: ReleaseTheHounds

>>Last Friday, GreenStone Media signed off for good.

I believe a grand total of about 8 stations had this network.
Three I knew of:

—AM 1300 in the Albany area, I heard, went back to
ESPN Sports

—Unsure what WTWK in Plattsburgh NY will do. They
were Air America before they took on the female
talk network. Great.

—WNSH in Beverly, which hasn’t updated their site yet,
is plugging other talkers in. They DO have some conservative talkers like Laura Ingraham, Mike Reagan, and Jerry
Doyle on. It was funny to see their site say “radio
for women, by women” yet they were running all male
hosts from 6 pm to 6 am.


13 posted on 08/20/2007 8:36:26 AM PDT by raccoonradio
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To: subterfuge

Actually I really enjoyed feminist radio. I loved their reviews of next years models of sponges, mops and brooms!


14 posted on 08/20/2007 8:37:38 AM PDT by Holicheese (1-21-09 Hillary starts to destroy America!)
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To: wbill

“What YOUR man wants”.

How about, STOP TALKING during sports and war movies that I am currently watching on TV.

How about open the beer that you bring to me.


15 posted on 08/20/2007 8:40:15 AM PDT by Holicheese (1-21-09 Hillary starts to destroy America!)
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To: ReleaseTheHounds

In with a BANG! out with a whimper. (snif)


16 posted on 08/20/2007 8:46:26 AM PDT by YHAOS
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To: ReleaseTheHounds
Why did this effort fail?

Because liberal pretensions are nothing more than mass delusions -- "The Emperor's Clothes" writ large. Nobody listened. Nobody WANTED to listen. What do Gloria Steinem and Jane Fonda have to say to today's generation of girls? Their rhetoric is as tired as they are, but, unlike their flesh, their rhetoric doesn't benefit from surgical renovation.

"Feminism" is a played-out wedge issue, much as race is. It was a useful tool for the divisive Left half a century ago, but it has no power left, largely because it's been drained of its moral authority by its so-called "champions" -- people like Gloria Steinem and Jane Fonda and, in the case of race, Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton.

Put a fork in it.

17 posted on 08/20/2007 8:48:12 AM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: Holicheese

Oh, you’re bad!!!


18 posted on 08/20/2007 8:48:15 AM PDT by subterfuge (Today, Tolerance =greatest virtue;Hypocrisy=worst character defect; Discrimination =worst atrocity)
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To: YHAOS

It wound up on 8 tiny signals...WTWK 1070 in Plattsburgh NY,
serving the Burlington VT area across the lake as well,
had a weak daytime only signal. They got rid of AAR to
put women’s talk on—what next? (Maybe syndicated oldies,
radio Disney, who knows—not much of a signal to worry over)

WNSH in Beverly MA also has a rather limited signal and
is mostly programmed via a computer and a satellite dish.

Note what the article said: some female talk hosts
are quite popular, thank you, like Laura Ingraham and
Dr. Laura, and many women DO listen to male hosts like
Rush and Hannity. Er, notice a trend here? Conservative
talk, not “tepid liberalism”.


19 posted on 08/20/2007 8:49:20 AM PDT by raccoonradio
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To: ReleaseTheHounds

Who would have thought that a network designed by and for bitter, old, behind-the-times feminist women wouldn’t catch on?

Today’s guest will be Cindy Sheehan on why men are brutal, fascist war-mongering killers . . .

Stay tuned after that uplifing segment. We will discuss why it is never too late to give up men and find a nice girl.

And finally, Cynthia our anchor has found a man and will be leaving the network. Good luck to you Cynthia in the Connecticut suburbs! The office pool says, with your attitude, you’ll be back in no time and will host a show on raising children alone.


20 posted on 08/20/2007 8:51:15 AM PDT by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is the conservative in the race.)
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To: raccoonradio
The Champlain Valley station hasn't changed their site yet. Their logo:

"They took off that exciting Al Franken and Ed Schulz for THIS?"

21 posted on 08/20/2007 8:51:53 AM PDT by raccoonradio
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To: ReleaseTheHounds
GreenStone Media's brand of tepid liberalism didn't appeal to women. This isn't a tragedy for women; it's the market at work.

"the market at work"

For America-hating, anti-capitalist, socialist liberal Democrats that single phrase is the most hated phrase in the English language. Apparently Ted Turner is a chauvinist pig or he would have thrown some of his money down the toilet keeping GreenStone alive the way George Soros kept Air America on artificial life support. Oh wait - - Turner already flushed Fonda down the toilet after flushing a billion dollars down the UN toilet.

22 posted on 08/20/2007 8:52:18 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Duke Nukum
Whatever happened to Algore TV? And why isn’t he broadcasting his tirades from that network?

Good question, never hear about it anymore. I think I have it in my cable package (I know I tuned it in once).

23 posted on 08/20/2007 8:53:03 AM PDT by NewHampshireDuo (Earth - Taking care of itself since 4.6 billion BC)
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To: Holicheese
How about open the beer that you bring to me.

I prefer my wife not open the beer she brings me. Because when she does she drinks some of it leaving less for me.

24 posted on 08/20/2007 8:56:24 AM PDT by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: Lancey Howard

The folks who want to “save progressive talk” don’t believe in the concept of the market at work...they would rather
basically gut Freedom of the Press* by using the (un)Fairness Doctrine to kill ALL talk radio...if their Air America
can’t succeed, well then, they’ll bring down ALL of
talk radio just so “...Rush can’t spread his lies...”
Tolerant liberals, eh. “We’ll let you say what you want.
Only as long as you agree with us.”

*—that’s really what it is. The government stepping in
to monitor talk radio? The gall of them. And basically
bringing back the FD would make talk radio programmers
hesitant to air ANY ‘controversial’ programming, lest
they be forced to give equal time to NPR-style boring
hosts, conspiracy theory ranters, and unfunny comedians.

Which would kill their ratings, their business,
and ultimately talk radio.


25 posted on 08/20/2007 8:56:58 AM PDT by raccoonradio
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To: Holicheese
How about, STOP TALKING during sports and war movies that I am currently watching on TV

I'd be happy with just being able to stop feigning interest when Mrs wbill talks about "Her mother's neighbor's friend - you know, the one that you met at the party that one time eight years ago that collects minature cow sculptures? Well, SHE said that.....".

My needs are simple.

26 posted on 08/20/2007 8:57:56 AM PDT by wbill
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To: wbill

LOL. I hear you, brother.


27 posted on 08/20/2007 9:10:23 AM PDT by L98Fiero (A fool who'll waste his life, God rest his guts.)
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To: raccoonradio
Why do these crazy dykes and femynysts always use their reproductive organs in their logos and advertising?

I'd do the same, but the ad would be expensive ;)
28 posted on 08/20/2007 9:13:22 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: wbill

Spot on.
My life likes to fill me in on the details of lives of people I’ve never met. That, and she’ll hold a two-hour telephone call and then expect me to listen while she replays the entire freaking call.


29 posted on 08/20/2007 9:14:51 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: ReleaseTheHounds
Why did this effort fail?

1. It was only on after midnight.

2. You were required to stay up all night...

3. ...talk about boys...

4. ...paint each others' toenails.

30 posted on 08/20/2007 9:15:15 AM PDT by Doctor Raoul (What's the difference between the CIA and the Free Clinic? The Free Clinic knows how to stop leaks.)
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To: wbill
"Show up naked and bring beer."

Funny how the simple solution is the most effective.

31 posted on 08/20/2007 9:18:02 AM PDT by Doctor Raoul (What's the difference between the CIA and the Free Clinic? The Free Clinic knows how to stop leaks.)
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To: L98Fiero
My dad is a MOFW (Man Of Few Words). We've spent entire weekends fishing with nothing more being said than "Pass me another beer" and "Geez, that's a nice fish."

Both of us had a blast. Interesting, that we both married women that can talk the paint off the walls. Dad's Mother and Father were the same way, too.

During family get togethers, the guys usually congregated in the garage or on the porch. Grandpa said that it was the only place he could think, becuase the kitchen (where the women were) sounded like someone threw a fox in a henhouse.

I miss Grandpa. He called it like he saw it.

32 posted on 08/20/2007 9:18:31 AM PDT by wbill
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To: SJSAMPLE
My life lol! Interesting Freudian Slip. My wife is my life, too.

I love her dearly....just not all of the talking. I'm looking forward to getting a house with a workshop. I lost my office, when wbill jr. came along.

33 posted on 08/20/2007 9:21:34 AM PDT by wbill
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>> What a farce. The elusive male brain? Men are easy to understand, folks. It’s the female brain that man has no chance of decoding.

No kidding.

I think Jeff Foxworthy put it well ... “If you’ve ever wondered what a guy is thinking ... I’ll tell you. He’s thinking, ‘I’d like a beer, and I’d like to see somethin’ naked.’”

Generally speaking, give a good man sex, the remote control, and make him a sandwich - and he’ll give you the world.

H


34 posted on 08/20/2007 9:38:47 AM PDT by SnakeDoctor ("Don't worry. History will get it right ... and we'll both be dead." - George W. Bush to Karl Rove)
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To: Hemorrhage
I once saw a hilarious little booklet entitled, "All Things Man Has Learned About Woman."

Every page in the booklet was blank.
35 posted on 08/20/2007 9:41:47 AM PDT by JamesP81 (Keep your friends close; keep your enemies at optimal engagement range)
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To: mrsmel
Like women need another way to talk :D (I’m a woman, is it OK if I say that?)

***********

I've rarely had any interest in "women only" activities or organizations. It just seems odd to me, for the most part.

36 posted on 08/20/2007 9:42:12 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: wbill

I have a kegarator next to my recliner. So the wife can bring snacks instead.


37 posted on 08/20/2007 9:44:50 AM PDT by bicyclerepair (Ft. Lauderdale, Florida)
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To: JamesP81

Actually - the funniest book I’ve ever seen, was actually supposed to be a serious book. It was “Great Women throughout History” or the “Greatest Feminists in History” or something like that ...

... it was about 18-pages-long. Ha! So much for the droves of great feminists.

H


38 posted on 08/20/2007 9:45:29 AM PDT by SnakeDoctor ("Don't worry. History will get it right ... and we'll both be dead." - George W. Bush to Karl Rove)
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To: ReleaseTheHounds

The problem wasn’t that it was radio for women...the problem is that it was radio for radically liberal women. Doomed to failure.


39 posted on 08/20/2007 9:54:35 AM PDT by DesScorp
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To: DesScorp

I heard Rush describe their content as “very domestic” - like recipes & such...


40 posted on 08/20/2007 9:55:52 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: trisham

Same here. I would hope that my bond with someone would be based on something deeper than that we both have female reproductive organs :)


41 posted on 08/20/2007 9:57:51 AM PDT by mrsmel
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To: mrsmel

Indeed. Men aren’t really so bad, either. :)


42 posted on 08/20/2007 10:02:16 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Phantom Lord

Hahaha.

I open my husband’s beer for him...mainly because it usually isn’t a twist-off.


43 posted on 08/20/2007 10:18:31 AM PDT by jnygrl (A big mouth coupled with a small mind is a dangerous combination)
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To: ReleaseTheHounds
I think it really is an ideological failure, not a gender-specific failure.

If conservatives were to launch a woman-run radio network, featuring Ingraham, Coulter et al, I'd bet good money it would do pretty well--certainly better than the liberal attempt. Conservatives of both sexes (yes, both, meaning two) would be interested in tuning in. What man, liberal or conservative, is willing to listen to Steinem, Fonda et al? They're a bunch of man-haters!

Nothing like alienating 50% of your potential audience!

44 posted on 08/20/2007 10:26:18 AM PDT by grellis (Femininists for Fred!)
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To: ReleaseTheHounds; MurryMom

LOL..... a bigger, faster, more disastrous flop than Airheads America. Looks like the appetite for left-wing propaganda is already satiated by NPR, along with all the other dinosaur media aka PBS, NBC, PMSNBC, CBS, ABC, NY Times, et al.

Why do leftists continue to imagine that there is some vast unmet need for such worthless propaganda when millions of pinheads already enjoy NPR and friends?


45 posted on 08/20/2007 10:29:21 AM PDT by Enchante (Reid and Pelosi Defeatocrats: Surrender Now - Peace for Our Time!!)
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To: Phantom Lord

My GF is not drink beer that much so I am safe.
There is nothing more annoying than when she brings me a beer while I am sitting on the couch, then I have to get up and walk back into the kitchen because she “forgot” to open it.


46 posted on 08/20/2007 11:04:51 AM PDT by Holicheese (1-21-09 Hillary starts to destroy America!)
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To: wbill

I know her. I think my GF talks about her also!


47 posted on 08/20/2007 11:06:58 AM PDT by Holicheese (1-21-09 Hillary starts to destroy America!)
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To: grellis

>> What man, liberal or conservative, is willing to listen to Steinem, Fonda et al? They’re a bunch of man-haters!

Actually - I’ve always like listening to/ reading radical feminists ... they make me laugh (in a condescending, “what a miserable bunch of lunatics” sort-of way).

My favorite radical feminist diatribe of all-time was off of a now-defunct feminist blog called the “biting beaver” (no kidding, that was the name). She wrote a 5-page rant about the evils of penetration (exactly what it sounds like) ... what a loon.

H


48 posted on 08/20/2007 11:17:16 AM PDT by SnakeDoctor ("Don't worry. History will get it right ... and we'll both be dead." - George W. Bush to Karl Rove)
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To: Holicheese

95% of the beer I keep in the house is in a can, so I don’t have that problem.


49 posted on 08/20/2007 11:23:25 AM PDT by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: Hemorrhage

We’re fierce, we’re feminist, and we’re in your face!


50 posted on 08/20/2007 11:24:18 AM PDT by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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