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C.I.A. Details Errors It Made Before Sept. 11 (Jan. 2000 CIA knew of two hijackers)
NY Times ^ | 8/21/2007 | MARK MAZZETTI

Posted on 08/21/2007 7:54:42 PM PDT by tobyhill

WASHINGTON, Aug. 21 — A report released Tuesday by the Central Intelligence Agency includes new details of the agency’s missteps before the Sept. 11 attacks, outlining what the report says were failures to grasp the role being played by the terror mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and to fully assess the threats streaming into the C.I.A. in the summer of 2001.

The 19-page report, prepared by the agency’s inspector general, also says that 50 to 60 C.I.A. officers knew of intelligence reports in 2000 that two of the Sept. 11 hijackers, Nawaf al-Hamzi and Khalid al-Mihdhar, may have been in the United States. But none of those officers thought to notify the Federal Bureau of Investigation about the potential domestic threat, the report says — evidence of what it calls a systemic failure.

The inspector general recommended that several top agency officials, including former director George J. Tenet, be held accountable for their failure to put in place a strategy to dismantle Al Qaeda in the years before Sept. 11, 2001. Gen. Michael V. Hayden, the current C.I.A. director, and his predecessor, Porter J. Goss, have declined to seek disciplinary action against Mr. Tenet and others named in the report.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: cia; missedopportunity; prequel

1 posted on 08/21/2007 7:54:45 PM PDT by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

January 2000 would have been during who’s administration????


2 posted on 08/21/2007 8:01:06 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Political Correctness Is Going To Get Us All Killed)
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To: tobyhill

We’ve known this—the CIA’s failure to track the two hijackers—since Septermber 12.

Tenet’s absurdly self-serving book that blamed everyone but himself makes me despise him even more. He really should have gone to jail for criminal negligence.


3 posted on 08/21/2007 8:02:24 PM PDT by denydenydeny (Expel the priest and you don't inaugurate the age of reason, you get the witch doctor--Paul Johnson)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

Clinton!


4 posted on 08/21/2007 8:02:43 PM PDT by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: tobyhill
Gen. Michael V. Hayden, the current C.I.A. director, and his predecessor, Porter J. Goss, have declined to seek disciplinary action against Mr. Tenet and others named in the report.

Oh, why bother. The bureaucrats reign supreme.

5 posted on 08/21/2007 8:03:13 PM PDT by Rudder
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To: tobyhill

Tenet was doing his usual “dodge and weave” to try and excuse his sorry ass.


6 posted on 08/21/2007 8:03:45 PM PDT by evad
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

Not sure but I think it was the Zipper-meister’s.


7 posted on 08/21/2007 8:04:21 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

B.J. Bill an His tool Tenet, What a cost to The United States the Democrates has been. What fools vote for these people?


8 posted on 08/21/2007 8:05:45 PM PDT by reefdiver (The sheriff of Nottingham collected taxes on behalf of the common good)
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To: Rudder
I wonder if one of those 50-60 agent’s name is Plame or Wilson?
9 posted on 08/21/2007 8:05:53 PM PDT by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo
Tomorrow’s NY Times lead editorial will still blame the problems in the 90s on Bush...
10 posted on 08/21/2007 8:07:53 PM PDT by joonbug
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To: tobyhill

I don’t know how this 9-11 stuff ever got by super-secret, “covert,” secret agent Valerie Plame. After listening to what the DemocRATS say about her, one would think she would have picked up on it before 9-11.


11 posted on 08/21/2007 8:08:08 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (When you start seeing FR as a "hate site," it's time for you to go to rehab.)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

This is also a good time to ask if the President’s wife was working on the important issues of the day as all this was happening, or baking cookies?


12 posted on 08/21/2007 8:08:24 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (When toilet paper is a luxury, you have achieved communism.)
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To: tobyhill
They couldn’t tell the FBI cause of freaking Gorelick’s wall...
13 posted on 08/21/2007 8:08:43 PM PDT by stylin19a (Go Bears !)
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To: ElkGroveDan

Not sure about the cookies, but she darn sure wasn’t running the house.......

;-)


14 posted on 08/21/2007 8:11:36 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Tracking The Flyin' Imams Since 11/20/06)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo
And it must be remembered that Clinton came out and endorsed the opponent of Weldon, the leader of the Able Danger investigation.

And it must be remembered that former head of the NSA Sandy Berger stole documents from the 9/11 archives.

Clinton's head of the NSA stealing 9/11 documents, need I say more!

15 posted on 08/21/2007 8:14:43 PM PDT by Freedom of Speech Wins
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To: SandRat; All

Y’all passed your history exam.......


16 posted on 08/21/2007 8:15:32 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Tracking The Flyin' Imams Since 11/20/06)
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To: stylin19a
I know they couldn’t tell the FBI but then that puts the burden on them if they knew something and didn’t stop it even at the expense of violating the law. That is the job of the CIA, to protect the US number one. It was an unfortunate part of reality that falls on Gorelick’s head in the end but the other reality is something should have been done.
17 posted on 08/21/2007 8:18:52 PM PDT by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: All
The report cited the C.I.A.’s failure to pass intelligence about Mr. Mihdhar and Mr. Hamzi to other agencies as potentially significant. The C.I.A. had identified the men in January 2000 when they visited Malaysia, but never notified the State Department to put them on the terrorist watch list.

Others throughout the 1990s and into the 2000s failed to act not just CIA personnel.

Peter Lance's book, TRIPLE CROSS: How bin Laden’s Master Spy Penetrated the CIA, the Green Berets, and the FBI - and Why Patrick Fitzgerald Failed to Stop Him, names them.

He has the best explanation why 9/11 happened: virtually all personnel in key positions were busy covering their butts for one goof-up after another. Simple as that as best I can understand it from his interviews. I've heard several including a couple of three-hour interviews.

Some terrorist connections were ignored because to act on them would jeopardize other cases. LE personnel who pushed the terrorist threat too hard were screwed. Lots of actionable shenanigans IMO.

I did not buy the book, Mr. Lance in his interviews was too quick to blame "Bush 1" and "Bush 2" while, when pressed, acknowledging that "President Clinton" is partly to blame.

Nevertheless, Mr. Lance documents events throughout the 1990s that were practically screaming, "Hey! over here, over here!" But alas. . . .

18 posted on 08/21/2007 8:26:34 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: tobyhill

“something should have been done”

There was a major breakdown somewhere. The wall part sounds like more of an excuse, or reason for one.


19 posted on 08/21/2007 8:30:52 PM PDT by PaRepub07
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To: tobyhill

I don’t disagree...but this “summary” snapshot appears devoid of ANYTHING Clinton.

That’s not possible.

The Tenet & Hayden of this summary are Clinton’s Tenet & Hayden, not Pres. Bush’s Tenet & Hayden.

Tenet was DCI beginning 1997
Hayden was the head of NSA starting 1999.
Goelick was Deputy Attorney General of the United States.

The time frame in question was Clinton...somehow the news articles will try and connect this to Pres. Bush....

or the report will get buried.


20 posted on 08/21/2007 8:35:15 PM PDT by stylin19a (Go Bears !)
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To: PaRepub07
The wall definitely contributed to the risk and actual attack but I have to wonder when the CIA got out of the business of taking care of business before the threats arrive on our soil?
21 posted on 08/21/2007 8:38:21 PM PDT by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: tobyhill

thank you.


22 posted on 08/21/2007 8:40:44 PM PDT by PaRepub07
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To: stylin19a
Of course, everything is Bush’s fault. /s

If the media put in the headlines,”Hijackers sent note to President in 2000” almost everyone automatically thinks it’s President Bush because the date fools them and they are programmed to think it’s Bush’s fault. There are still a lot of people who will believe anything and everything the MSM spoon feeds them.

23 posted on 08/21/2007 8:46:18 PM PDT by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: tobyhill

“Gen. Michael V. Hayden, the current C.I.A. director, and his predecessor, Porter J. Goss, have declined to seek disciplinary action against Mr. Tenet and others named in the report.”

TA-DAH!

You now see why I USED to be worried about big brother, But I am not now. If you work in the Gubbement you not only dont have to worry about screwing up.... if you screw up big enough they will promote you to cover up your screw ups.


24 posted on 08/21/2007 9:16:39 PM PDT by Walkingfeather (u)
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To: KylaStarr; Cindy; StillProud2BeFree; nw_arizona_granny; Velveeta; Dolphy; appalachian_dweller; ...

>>>The report cited the C.I.A.’s failure to pass intelligence about Mr. Mihdhar and Mr. Hamzi to other agencies as potentially significant. The C.I.A. had identified the men in January 2000 when they visited Malaysia but never notified the State Department to put them on the terrorist watch list.<<<

The Malaysia terrorist summit is where the planning took place for the USS Cole bombing and 9/11.


25 posted on 08/21/2007 9:32:21 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: tobyhill

Well, the whole report is crap and the CIA’s Inspector General has his head up his arse. The little creep should be fired for his incompetence. His little report does NOT reflect the realities of how it was before 9/11 and now.

Number one, for the departments to work together as they should at the time, some major changes would have to have been made which Bush only was able to make them AFTER 9/11 happened and people finally figured out Gorelick’s wall wasn’t such a hot idea after all.

These agencies still are not talking as they should though better than they once were.

Everyone seems to forget what is still happening even today, after 9/11. You get some Arab guys taking flying lessons and if someone complain, your called a racist. Oh no! We can’t profile. Bad bad bad bad!

Even today every time Bush takes a measure to protect this country and people starts screaming and having hearings and wanting to impeach someone.

So people knew of a couple “possible terrorists” eh? Before 9/11? You drag them in for questioning, then what? You might be able to ask them some questions which they’ll probably have some nice answers I’m sure. But then you’d have to let them go or have the ACLU down around your ears and big arsed articles written in the New York Times talking about civil liberties and racism.

You couldn’t ask them with intent of getting answers or someone will be screaming torture. Just how are these agencies suppose to do their jobs? Hell.... you can’t even listen to their phone calls without a ton of paper work and just how long does these guys phone calls suppose to last before you get every T crossed and every I dotted?

It’s still really bad out there to get anything done and it was worse yet before 9/11. Just what drugs is Helgerson on anyway? What good does it to “be held accountable”? What does THAT mean anyway? What possible good does it do us now? Shouldn’t we be frigging be looking forward and not backwards?

If you really want to hold people “accountable”, you need to go back decades and not just since January 2001. It took decades for these nandy pandy liberals to tear down our defenses to where they were just before 9/11 so it would be so easy to get attacked..... the same that the liberals are working so hard to achieve today. They want it all to be like it was pre-9/11.

The so called “Inspector General” should be relieved of his duties and he should pick up a nice little job at Mcdonalds... but even THEN he’d get your order wrong he’s so inept!


26 posted on 08/21/2007 11:13:50 PM PDT by Tut
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To: Calpernia

Interesting, all the connections.


27 posted on 08/22/2007 2:26:16 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( God loaned us many of the Brave people, those who keep us free and safe and for balance liberals..)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael
let's face it....the Clinton dictatorship was one of focus groups and schmoozing up and avoiding any hard, adult decisions.....like trailing who planned the first Trade Tower bombings and treating it like an attack rather than just a simple crime....

ah, but the stock market was so great......( except for me I guess)..

28 posted on 08/22/2007 2:48:27 AM PDT by cherry
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