Odd. Our legislature's last session ended months ago and the next isn't until January.
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Posted on 08/22/2007 9:01:25 AM PDT by txroadkill
Is your boss a nightmare? Not just annoying, but so completely lacking in people skills as to possibly be a sociopath?
There may now be more you can do than simply renting "Office Space" for the 11th time. The Los Angeles Times reports that lawmakers across the country are considering legislation that would give workers grounds to sue their superiors "for being, basically, jerks."
The specific standards for behavior that would justify such lawsuits are still being worked out. At least four state legislatures, including those in New Jersey, New York, Vermont and Washington, are considering such a measure
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I hear Australia is nice...kind of like Texas with more beer. That's where I'm going.
New Zealand has a freer business environment than Australia and the USA according to the World Bank. Might be nice there.
What ever happened to - if you have a boss that's a jerk - go find another job!!
Oh, perfect. Let’s give more power to lazy, incompetent employees that claim they are being picked on by a boss that expects them to actually work. I’ll admit I’ve worked for some real jerks for bosses in my career that usually were threatened by an ambitious-hard-working subordinate, but that was easily fixed. I found a better job!
Oh man, I would be rich by now if I had been given the right to sue a bad boss.
Australia (and New Zealand) are way liberal, and have extremely tight immigration laws (I know you were just talking, just saying :) )
That's what everyone that has ever worked for me did..:)
I dont know about this-we just survived 5 years of a terrible boss. Threats of violence, showing up drunk, and meltdowns at meetings. Sadly, I was the impetus for getting fired. I called him on a recorded line when he was the duty officer over one weekend. He was so drunk he didnt even know what I was telling him. We had a serious inflight emergency involving smoke in the cabin and cockpit which resulted in a diversion. When he didnt show up on the conference call, I tried to cover for him, but the VPs werent buying it. The pulled the tapes and canned him. He then spent the next two weeks calling flight control blaming me for his firing, and threatened to fail me on a drug test. We had to get a TRO against him..
When I was the boss, I guess I was a jerk. I demanded a full 8 hours work for 8 hours of pay. If you failed to perform, you heard about it from me, in person... and if you continued to under perform, it affected your pay raises and promotions.
I could have been sued for demanding performance.
Odd. Our legislature's last session ended months ago and the next isn't until January.
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Ah yes....another reason to bring a law suit. What’s the matter with people? If your boss is a jerk, go find another job. Enough people leave his department, his boss will get rid of him. When the industry changed from Personnel Departments to Human Resources, all this crap started. Little Hitlers were set up and think they control everything. I had a run in with HR one time. I wanted to fire a person. HR said “Well, maybe we can fix the problem by giving the employee some time to correct the problem.” I told this guy that “his job was to process paperwork and my job was to run my department. I already documented this person for 6 months, according to company regulations. Fire her and do it now.” This HR guy just leaned back and gave up. Managers of people have not only a responsibility to their people but their main job is to turn out products. Without products......no company. These people need to get a life. I’ve worked for jerks, thankfully, not many. If I found a jerk, I went someplace else.
This will shut down 90% of the economy.
What???? Don’t the tort lawyers have enough work already?
No problem, we can all sneak in together, steal all they Aussie's ID's, have a bunch of protest marches and demand that Australia change the laws while waving American flags.
I’m in big trouble. Anybody want to buy a drilling business? If the price is right, I’ll throw in a small manufacturing company. I’m the worst boss i ever had, wonder if i can sue myself?
That one put a big smile on my face. Sue yourself? I’d bet you could find an attorney that would take on your case. Let me know how it goes. Only problem I see is how are you going to cross examine yourself?
we can all sneak in together, steal all they Aussie’s ID’s
How about we just steal their women?
I once worked at a refinery were a worker won th lottery. After he got his money he went in and pee’ed in his bosses coffee cup and walked out.
Unfortunately, for every situation like this, there will be hundreds of jerks who don't want to work egged on by trial lawyers pushing the limits of what violation of the statute means. A substantial portion of those jerks are willing to lie to win the jackpot.
I don't know how you run a business under this sort of abusive law. Maybe video everything that happens in the business and archive the tapes.
I had a top manager at an electronics firm one time that retired. On his last day, he took a chainsaw and cut his desk in half. The next day, he had a new desk delivered but he got his point across.
Ill treat myself as a hostile witness.
The Boss’ 16 year old son just came over and yelled at my back that the water cooler was empty again. I said, good, you should change it.
Sounds like a plan, think they’ll go for it? (Not even liberal Australia is that suicidal! Only in America!) Anyway, those Australian critters are too disturbing for me——blue-ringed octupus,irakanji jellyfish,great white sharks, funnel web spider, taipan, platypus, humungous crocodiles, cane toads...eek!
I will do everything I can not to hire employees. My partner and I run our small company and at times it can be tough. But....I don’t want employees if I can get away from it.
Our company handled the whole thing pretty well, I thought. But I agree with other posters as well-this will be yet another avenue the filthy trial lawyers can abuse..
Wouldn’t you be in contempt of court? Then you would have to fine yourself. Sounds like a loosing proposition to me. Maybe you could hire Shark? Maybe half of you could bribe the judge and the other have could protest.
Make them sign a waiver before hiring them?
They need them to keep us from stealing their women.
I’m gonna hire Johnny Cochran, we’ll use the Chewbacca defence.
WISH FREEPERS HAD THEIR OWN VILLAGE!!!!!!!!!!!
I could have been sued for demanding performance.
It depends. I had quite a few that were demanding and fair and skilled at making people WANT to give their 8+ hours.
There have been a few that should never have been allowed to advance. Usually they were made managers to get them away from sharp implements. These are the ones who violate the Fair Labor Standards Act with harrassment, intimidation, and bombast, and they serve as a glowing testimonial to the restraint, self-control, and responsibility of the American Gun Owner.(And in some cases, it is a shame).
"They are HIRING."
Hehe, great white shark, defender of virtue :)
Nobody but trial lawyers will benefit from such a ridiculous law.
This is the group that thinks displays of severed penises and Christ covered with urine and feces is "art", supports laws forcing elementary school kids to learn fisting and worship vaginas, calls everyone who doesn't agree with them 100% vile names while ALSO PUBLICALLY wishing bloody torture on their enemies...among many other things. How good a definition of good behavioral standard do we THINK people like that can create??
WHY is it that nearly everyone in this country thinks blaming Bush for all their ills is more important than demanding our lawmakers MAKE DECENT LAWS??
Only sue yourself if insurance is paying the damages.
Jane Fonda would be finished based on her defunct radio network.
Another knife to the capitalist system. What will happen is that companies will stop hiring employees directly. They will hire long-term temps who don’t directly work for their company. Talking about driving prices up. For everyone.
There seems to be a reason to sue for everthing. Last week I was ploughed over by a shoplifter trying to escape. The store was utterly shocked that all I wanted from them was payment of my doctor bills (to make sure I was just bruised, not broken).
can you imagine how many folks will sue Donald Trump?
Can you just imagine what a JERK he is as a boss (and as a human).
Actually, from everything I’ve heard, he is actually a nice and fair man to work for. I heard that his former wife, Ivana, was awful.
It’s the shoplifter, not the store, that should pay your doctor’s bill.
I read that people are emigrating from the UK in record numbers, many of them are going to Australia, NZ and South Africa.
And if they win, THEY get that boss job...
What about co-workers?
I work with a female who thinks she walks on water and is not afraid to bad mouth and berate anyone or anything. She curses and mutters all day long as if she is in a make the sailor blush contest and no one dares to confront her, even the boss. She creates a very hostile work environment and this has been going on for years.
You're smart. My husband and I had a company in Florida some years ago. We started growing and getting more customers, started hiring, etc. We eventually figured out we actually made more money when it was just us than we did with employees, what with unemp. tax, matching FICA and Medicare taxes, worker's comp insurance, and everything else the bureaucrats nickel and dime you to death with.
Carolyn
Whoa. If South Africa is a better place to be than the UK, the UK is in deep trouble.
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