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Giving Out Gospel Tracts Becomes a Federal Case
World Net Daily ^ | August 24, 2007 | World Net Daily

Posted on 08/24/2007 7:20:46 PM PDT by alvindsv

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To: alvindsv

and let us not neglet the 9th and 10th:

Amendment 9: Rights retained by the people
The enumeration in the Constitution of certain rights shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

Amendment 10: Powers retained by the states and the people
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.


21 posted on 08/24/2007 9:57:25 PM PDT by biscuit jane (preaching to the choir)
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To: biscuit jane

Well, he was a Christian, it’s becoming clear that the only religion in this country with any protection, not to mention special rights, is Islam.


22 posted on 08/24/2007 9:58:19 PM PDT by mrsmel (Free Ramos and Compean! Duncan Hunter for President!)
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To: Rocky
The police chief and the judge should go to jail for at least a year,

Think they could be headed for place hotter and longer?

23 posted on 08/24/2007 10:02:41 PM PDT by lonestar
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To: alvindsv

bookmarked


24 posted on 08/24/2007 10:06:34 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (States' rights don't trump God-given, unalienable rights...support the Reagan pro-life platform)
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To: alvindsv

Judge reverses conviction for distributing religious tracts

By NANCY BADERTSCHER
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Published on: 08/09/07

A Cumming man had to turn to a higher authority for justice after he was arrested and jailed for two days for trying to spread the Gospel on a public sidewalk.

And last week, 68-year-old Frederic Baumann got it.

Forsyth County Superior Court Judge Jeffrey Bagley threw out Baumann’s conviction for violating a Cumming city ordinance by demonstrating without a parade permit.

“He was shocked and surprised that this could happen in America,” David Cortman, an attorney with the Alliance Defense Fund who represented Baumann, said Thursday morning.

Baumann was arrested by Cumming police in April as he stood on a public sidewalk outside the city fairgrounds and handed out religious tracts, court records show.

He spent two days in the Cumming city jail before being brought before a City Court judge, convicted of the ordinance violation and sentenced to time served.

Baumann had a brief exchange with the police officer before the arrest, Cortman said.

“He asked the officer if he didn’t have a right to be there under the Constitution,” the attorney said. “The officer’s response was: ‘I guess you want to get arrested.’ “

At the jail, Baumann repeatedly asked to see a copy of the ordinance and was refused, Cortman said.

Before Judge Bagley, Cortman argued that the ordinance was unconstitutional and incorrectly applied in Baumann’s case. “My argument all along was: One man does not a parade make,” Cortman said.

In his order, Bagley said that in court filings the City Court judge appears to “expressly admit that the ordinance does not apply” to Baumann.

“Therefore,” the judge wrote, “the court ... reverses the conviction.”

Baumann and the city’s attorney were not immediately available for comment.

Cortman said he’s working with city officials to make sure that the arrest is expunged from Baumann’s record.

He said his group, which takes on cases involving issues of religious liberty, is weighing still whether to challenge the legality of the city ordinance.

https://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/northfulton/stories/2007/08/09/streetpreach_0810.html


25 posted on 08/24/2007 10:34:51 PM PDT by jer33 3
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Cumming man jailed for passing out religious tracts, files lawsuit

By NANCY BADERTSCHER
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Published on: 08/23/07

A federal lawsuit has been filed on behalf of a 67-year-old Cumming man who was arrested and jailed for three days in April for passing out religious tracts on a public sidewalk.

“Christians cannot be treated as second-class citizens and be required to request permission from the government before handing out religious literature on a public sidewalk,” said Alliance Defense Fund attorney David Cortman, who filed the lawsuit for Cumming resident Fredric Baumann.

The lawsuit, filed Wednesday in U.S. District Court in Gainesville, asks that the city of Cumming’s parade and demonstration permit — which was the basis for Baumann’s arrest — be declared unconstitutional.

Earlier this month, Forsyth County Superior Court Judge Jeffrey S. Bagley threw out Baumann’s conviction for violating the ordinance, based on a challenge filed by Cortman’s group.

Baumann was arrested on April 22 as he stood on a public sidewalk outside the Cumming Fairgrounds and handed out Gospel tracts to visitors to the Taste of Forsyth festival.

He was jailed for three days on the ordinance violation, convicted by a city court judge, and sentenced to time served.

The lawsuit describes Baumann as a man of faith who feels called to spread the word that Jesus Christ died for the sins of mankind and is the root of salvation for believers.

It alleges that Baumann was selectively prosecuted for exercising his First Amendment free speech rights and has been unable to continue his mission because of “fear of subsequent arrest, detention and prosecution.”

The ordinance was “used as a weapon against religious freedom and should be removed from the city’s arsenal,” Cortman said.

The lawsuit names as defendants the city of Cumming and Cumming Police Chief Mike Eason.

Attempts to reach city officials were not successful Thursday.

In the lawsuit Baumann claims that, while in jail, he was denied the right to use his reading glasses so he could read his Bible and look through the telephone book for a lawyer.

The lawsuit also alleges that he was not given a chance to post bond and brought before the city court judge without notice or legal counsel.

http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/northfulton/stories/2007/08/23/lawsuit_0824_web.html


26 posted on 08/24/2007 10:37:24 PM PDT by jer33 3
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To: jer33 3

Good! That made my night! Finally the good guys win one! Thank you for posting this!


27 posted on 08/24/2007 10:43:10 PM PDT by mrsmel (Free Ramos and Compean! Duncan Hunter for President!)
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To: jer33 3

And this!


28 posted on 08/24/2007 10:43:23 PM PDT by mrsmel (Free Ramos and Compean! Duncan Hunter for President!)
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To: alvindsv

You can never tell whether something published in World Net Daily is true...but if this story happens to be the true the Police Chief should be the one in jail for using the power of the badge to abuse others and false imprisonment. Its not clear the judge shouldn’t be in jail too.

Unfortunately, though, this source is notoriously unreliable so its hard to tell what happened


29 posted on 08/24/2007 10:48:20 PM PDT by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words)
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To: mrsmel

Yes, I was glad to read this report as well. I couldn’t believe that in Georgia, in the middle of the bible belt, would this man be convicted of handing out a Gospel tract.


30 posted on 08/24/2007 10:55:42 PM PDT by jer33 3
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To: gondramB

Keep reading...........it happened. Posts 25 & 26.


31 posted on 08/24/2007 11:19:03 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead)
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To: Nightshift; WKB; Sybeck1; pamlet; aumrl; mariabush; nmh; Ingtar; Blogger; Sweet Hour of Prayer; ...

ping...


32 posted on 08/25/2007 5:19:40 AM PDT by tutstar (Baptist Ping list - freepmail me to get on or off.)
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To: metmom

Thanks for the ping metmom. This really burns me up!! And it happened in the Bible belt no less.


33 posted on 08/25/2007 5:32:18 AM PDT by tutstar (Baptist Ping list - freepmail me to get on or off.)
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To: tutstar

I cannot believe this happened in Cumming. I hope both the police chief and the judge get nifonged.


34 posted on 08/25/2007 6:16:34 AM PDT by Hoodat ("I get tired of people that are holier than thou because they've been pro-life longer than I have.")
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To: Hoodat

I second that!

Also in the article it said that Gideons had been arrested in Key Largo for handing out Bibles. I had not even seen that on the local news sites and I’m in NE FL. They tell us what they want us to know....that’s for sure!


35 posted on 08/25/2007 6:59:36 AM PDT by tutstar (Baptist Ping list - freepmail me to get on or off.)
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To: alvindsv
"The government should can not force them to get special permission before practicing their constitutional right to free speech.

There fixed.

36 posted on 08/25/2007 8:29:08 AM PDT by Nuc1 (NUC1 Sub pusher SSN 668 (Liberals Aren't Patriots))
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To: moonman

oops I goofed. I see has already filed a lawsuit.

GOOD.


37 posted on 08/25/2007 9:02:48 AM PDT by biscuit jane (preaching to the choir)
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To: alvindsv

The arrest and conviction is illegal.

Handing out literature in a public place is protected.

What about that perv in L.A. that promotes
kiddy porn ?


38 posted on 08/25/2007 9:05:19 AM PDT by biscuit jane (preaching to the choir)
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To: doc1019

I received a card with scripture from the location where I get my oil changed. They will continue to get my business. (They also do not have any obvious illegals aorking there.)


39 posted on 08/25/2007 9:08:42 AM PDT by mathluv
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To: tutstar

Yep. If a muslim got arrested for handing out
toilet paper/koran, the MSm would be all over it.


40 posted on 08/25/2007 9:09:07 AM PDT by biscuit jane (preaching to the choir)
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