Posted on 08/25/2007 9:12:19 AM PDT by Reeses
Oh PLEASE! That's such a load of bovine excrement! They, and anyone who's got the least little bit of sense, train to shoot at center of mass. Plain and simple.
Of course, if you're of a mind that all cops are nothing more than homicidal maniacs, just waiting to pull their weapons on you and send you on to meet your maker, you're free to do so.
Mark
At 16 I stood 6'2" tall and weighed in at 190 pounds. Even had a "real" mustache and had no problem walking into a bar and ordering a beer in MO, a "21 year old" state. And I was not the biggest or oldest looking kid in my class. There were at least 10 other guys in my class who looked as old or older than I did, and even more that were my size or larger.
Just because he was 16 means nothing. And being armed with a knife makes him a danger, it doesn't make the cops "cowards."
Mark
Most police hate going on domestic calls more than any other. The parties are unpredictable and hyper-emotional, the situation is rarely one in which they can feel confident of what is truly transpiring, and they often cannot make an arrest (and quickly get things stabilized) because there may be no evidence or accusations of physical contact.
A knife with a 3" blade is every bit as deadly as one with a 4" or 6" blade. Remember September 11, 2001? Those planes were taken, and it seems a number of people killed with box cutters, which have less than 1" of blade exposed.
I believe two competently trained deputies should be able to take down a “slight” 16 yo without gunfire
Hard to say. Please note that they had already tried using non-lethal means. Have you ever been in a fight? I've been in a few, two with "slightly built" people. They kicked my ass.
Mark
They ought to just shoot the perp with a tranquilizer dart. Safer for everyone.
Why does this post make me think of Michael Vick?
That's shoot to kill. They are also trained to shoot many rounds and if one partner starts shooting they all do so one officers judgment can't be called into question. This is pretty new though. I wish there were old newspapers from say the 1950s to read and search on the web. You'd read about warning shots, something unheard of these lawyer days. It's almost like there's a leftist conspiracy to keep old politically incorrect family newspapers from being searchable on the web. So much socialist folly depends on not being able to pull up and link to a story from the past.
A knife with a 3" blade is every bit as deadly as one with a 4" or 6" blade. Remember September 11, 2001? Those planes were taken, and it seems a number of people killed with box cutters, which have less than 1" of blade exposed.
This is so apples to oranges.
Comparing unexpecting stewardesses to trained police officers
Have you ever been in a fight? I've been in a few, two with "slightly built" people. They kicked my ass.
But were you sober at the time /just kidding
My belief is that two well trained police officers should be able to take down almost all 16 yo without resorting to lethal force
re: call 911 with some wild stories.
And the poor law enforcement guy who has to respond has no idea who’s telling the truth. One mistake and it can cost him his life or his career. My son is still with a sheriff’s office but is a helicopter pilot and says that if he had had to stay on the street he would have been out of it by now. He has the greatest job in the world, boy do I envy him!
I have had to disarm many guys, knives, handgun, rifle, and a nut with two sawed off cue sticks, doing some kind of karate stuff in Mission Beach.
Everything I have had to do, I did alone, unarmed, without backup, sometimes intervening in somebody else’s bar fight when it looked like one of them was going to be killed.
Since policeman are at work and represent the authority of the state, I don’t expect them to engage in hand to hand combat with all these cases, but it would be nice to see them accept a little risk occasionally in disarming a lightly armed citizen.
I’m surprised that some cops when confronted with a low risk situation, don’t use it for the simple adrenaline rush.
“”For the record I HAVE faced down bats, knives, razors and once a meat-cleaver. I am not a cop and I didn’t call cops.”””
LOL, I just now read your post after I made post 53.
It sounds like we share some traits, and possibly a different sense of fun (and obligation), than other people.
Somebody videotapes you using a baton, and if you are lucky, you’ll just lose your job. A clean shooting is going to be more legally defensible than a few swats with a baton.
On what basis do you believe this?
Not in every department and not stab or slash armor.
They are also trained to shoot many rounds and if one partner starts shooting they all do so one officers judgment can't be called into question. This is pretty new though.
Not in my training three - four years ago.
Warning shots are against the sheriff' office SOP in my county. Bullets shot into the air tend to come down somewhere. Bullets shot into the ground tend to bounce. Warning shots are dangerous.
What a sad and tragic situation for your family, but dang! that line was funny.
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