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Airline: Passenger Tries To Open Plane Door - Man Restrained On Flight (Passengers fight back)
WFSB ^ | August 25, 2007 | AP

Posted on 08/25/2007 4:12:44 PM PDT by LurkedLongEnough

DENVER, Colo. -- A passenger tried to open a plane door during a Frontier Airlines flight on Saturday morning but was subdued by airline staff and passengers, an airline spokesman said.

Police and Transport Security Administration staff met Flight 514 after the plane landed in New York City and took the man into custody, said Frontier spokesman Joe Hodas.

Hodas said the man would not have been able to open the door even if he had not been subdued. "You need special training to open the door," he said.

There were 128 passengers and five crew members on the plane, Hodas said.

Passenger Bobby Vigil of Estes Park told KUSA-TV the man had been acting strangely. The man, whose name was not released, was restrained for the remainder of the flight.

"I turn around and hear the flight attendant yelling for someone to help her because he opened the back door of the plane. The whole rest of the flight, all the way in, he was yelling and trying to bite the tape, and they ended up restraining him with an extra lap belt," said Vigil.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Colorado; US: New York
KEYWORDS: aerospace; airline; airlines; airlinesecurity; depressurizefirst; faa; flight514; frontier; frontierairlines; jeffreychang; tsa
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1 posted on 08/25/2007 4:12:46 PM PDT by LurkedLongEnough
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To: LurkedLongEnough

gee, can’t wait for the details.


2 posted on 08/25/2007 4:14:00 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (Hate me, I'm white.)
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To: LurkedLongEnough

What’s his name?


3 posted on 08/25/2007 4:14:06 PM PDT by jdm
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To: LurkedLongEnough

Restraints aren’t enough. We need ejection seats.


4 posted on 08/25/2007 4:14:42 PM PDT by RichInOC ("You know vhat ve gonna do nowwwww?" "No." "Unpimp ze plane!")
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To: LurkedLongEnough

That’s life-and-death self-defense. If they can only stop him by killing him, the law is okay with it.


5 posted on 08/25/2007 4:15:04 PM PDT by Petronski (Why would Romney lie about Ronald Reagan's record?)
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To: LurkedLongEnough

Bill Jones strikes again!


6 posted on 08/25/2007 4:15:11 PM PDT by steveo (Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana.)
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To: LurkedLongEnough
Passenger Bobby Vigil of Estes Park told KUSA-TV the man had been acting strangely.

Cool last name Bobby.

7 posted on 08/25/2007 4:16:00 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all.)
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To: the invisib1e hand

Give the guy a good tongue lashing and let him go.


8 posted on 08/25/2007 4:16:35 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: LurkedLongEnough
The whole rest of the flight, all the way in, he was yelling and trying to bite the tape, and they ended up restraining him with an extra lap belt," said Vigil.

One wonders why they left him conscious...

9 posted on 08/25/2007 4:17:59 PM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: jdm
>>>What’s his name?<<<

It's sure to be Ole, Rolf, Ingmar, Sven or Mohammed.

Take your pick!

10 posted on 08/25/2007 4:20:09 PM PDT by HardStarboard (Take No Prisoners - We're Out of Qurans)
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Hodas said the man would not have been able to open the door even if he had not been subdued. "You need special training to open the door," he said.

You need to depressurize the cabin first, Joe.

11 posted on 08/25/2007 4:20:14 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: LurkedLongEnough

It is hell when you need a ciggarette.


12 posted on 08/25/2007 4:21:15 PM PDT by VR-21
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To: LurkedLongEnough

There is nothing the government can do better than the private U.S. Citizen!


13 posted on 08/25/2007 4:22:12 PM PDT by Issaquahking
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To: NittanyLion
and they ended up restraining him with an extra lap belt,"

A Glock would have been much more effective.

14 posted on 08/25/2007 4:22:30 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (Hate me, I'm white.)
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To: NittanyLion

Special training to open the door? Against 14 PPSI?

Yeah, you would need training. And a winch.


15 posted on 08/25/2007 4:22:34 PM PDT by patton (Congress would lose money running a brothel.)
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To: LurkedLongEnough

We have a friend who was on a flight when a woman tried doing this - probably 10 years ago.....he and another guy grabbed her.....she was in a panic (flying).....or crazy.


16 posted on 08/25/2007 4:22:52 PM PDT by goodnesswins (Being Challenged Builds Character! Being Coddled Destroys Character!)
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To: RichInOC

ROFLMAO! The mental image you gave me!


17 posted on 08/25/2007 4:23:03 PM PDT by mrsmel (Free Ramos and Compean! Duncan Hunter for President!)
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To: LurkedLongEnough

18 posted on 08/25/2007 4:23:15 PM PDT by RDTF (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, but Democrats believe every day is April 15th. - Reagan)
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To: HardStarboard
It's sure to be Ole, Rolf, Ingmar, Sven or Mohammed. Take your pick!

I'll put my money on a name like John, David, or Phil; belonging to a gentleman who had had too much to drink, prescription medications in his blood, and a history of clinical depression.

Sheesh. Why do folks have a crying need for every nutjob to be a Muslim terrorist?

19 posted on 08/25/2007 4:23:46 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: r9etb

You sound stressed, Achmed.


20 posted on 08/25/2007 4:28:50 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (Communist China: Walmart's answer to that pesky 13th Amendment.)
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To: r9etb
Sheesh. Why do folks have a crying need for every nutjob to be a Muslim terrorist?

Because the odds are very good. You must be an apologist for the cult of death.

21 posted on 08/25/2007 4:33:22 PM PDT by bfree (liberalism is the enemy of freedom!!!)
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To: r9etb

22 posted on 08/25/2007 4:35:34 PM PDT by RDTF (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, but Democrats believe every day is April 15th. - Reagan)
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To: Texas Eagle
Cool last name Bobby.

His sister Ima married a guy named Ante. She's Ima Vigil-Ante.

23 posted on 08/25/2007 4:35:53 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: LurkedLongEnough
"You need special training to open the door," he said.

I'm sure some helpful person will list step by step instructions on what is needed to open an airline door in flight. For informational purposes only of course.

24 posted on 08/25/2007 4:36:27 PM PDT by BipolarBob (Yes I backed over the vampire, but I swear I didn't see it in my rear view mirror.)
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To: jdm

D.B. Cooper :^)


25 posted on 08/25/2007 4:41:27 PM PDT by eyedigress
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To: the invisib1e hand
gee, can’t wait for the details.

The man's name was Michael Vick and the pasangers ate him.


Burrrp!

26 posted on 08/25/2007 4:42:00 PM PDT by Polybius
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To: LurkedLongEnough
Name not released? Pending notification of 'relatives'?

Oh well; maybe just a recently released 'patient'; or someone who was sure his fear of flying was cured.

27 posted on 08/25/2007 4:43:13 PM PDT by cricket
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To: LurkedLongEnough

When this happens, what is left of the perpetrator should be taken off the plane in three or four Hefty bags and a mop bucket. And the TV cameras should be there.


28 posted on 08/25/2007 4:43:56 PM PDT by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: HardStarboard
Take your pick!

Mohammed's going off a 3-1 favorite.

29 posted on 08/25/2007 4:44:12 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (NYT Headline: Protocols of the Learned Elders of CBS: Fake but Accurate, Experts Say)
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To: BipolarBob
I'm sure some helpful person will list step by step instructions on what is needed to open an airline door in flight.

Superstrength would be a good start. Either that or the ability to depressurize the cabin.

30 posted on 08/25/2007 4:46:00 PM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: LurkedLongEnough

How bad does a flight have to suck that you are willing to leave in midair?


31 posted on 08/25/2007 4:49:08 PM PDT by Normal4me
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To: Normal4me

Remember this one?

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2000/12/15/MN137139.DTL


32 posted on 08/25/2007 4:51:11 PM PDT by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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To: Normal4me
How bad does a flight have to suck that you are willing to leave in midair?

Good question

33 posted on 08/25/2007 4:52:28 PM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

OK Achmed, I apologize. I really do. :)

You were right:

http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070825/LOCAL/708250463


34 posted on 08/25/2007 4:52:29 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (Communist China: Walmart's answer to that pesky 13th Amendment.)
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To: Cementjungle
While that looks cool in print (and in English), his last name is most likely pronounced VEE-hill (Spanish pronunciation).
35 posted on 08/25/2007 4:53:12 PM PDT by Pablo64 (Ask me about my alpacas!)
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To: r9etb
Sheesh. Why do folks have a crying need for every nutjob to be a Muslim terrorist?

You're right. silly us. why would we ever think such a thing? He's probably just a normal american guy. certainly not anyone "testing" us. naaahhh. I mean, really! What are the odds he'd be a Muslim terrorist?

36 posted on 08/25/2007 4:53:39 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (Hate me, I'm white.)
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To: bfree
Because the odds are very good. You must be an apologist for the cult of death.

As if we never had people acting wacky on planes before 9-11.

I'll vote for regular American nutbar.

37 posted on 08/25/2007 4:56:14 PM PDT by Dianna
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To: LurkedLongEnough
Couldn't open the door without special training...

What makes them think...he didn't have that special training...geezzz

38 posted on 08/25/2007 4:57:39 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: LurkedLongEnough; 2Fro; all_mighty_dollar; Arkat Kingtroll; Battle Hymn of the Republic; Betis70; ..
Jeffrey K. Chang, 30, Santa Clara, Calif., was arrested when the Frontier Airlines flight was diverted to Indianapolis International Airport.


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39 posted on 08/25/2007 4:58:25 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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40 posted on 08/25/2007 4:59:01 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (We need a troop surge in Philly and Newark!)
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To: r9etb
It seems his name was Jeffery Chang.

Chang reportedly was upset that there was another passenger in the seat next to him and punched that passenger in the face, requiring treatment when the plane landed.

41 posted on 08/25/2007 5:00:55 PM PDT by Dianna
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To: Texas Eagle

Good thing Bobby was Vigil-ant!

(Somebody had to say it.)


42 posted on 08/25/2007 5:02:26 PM PDT by gc4nra ( this tag line protected by Kimber and the First Amendment (I voted for McClintock))
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To: Dianna

aaahhh.....trying to leave the scene of the crime! lol


43 posted on 08/25/2007 5:03:56 PM PDT by Normal4me
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To: Normal4me

Probably showing a George Clooney movie.


44 posted on 08/25/2007 5:06:07 PM PDT by gc4nra ( this tag line protected by Kimber and the First Amendment (I voted for McClintock))
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To: LurkedLongEnough
“...and hear the flight attendant yelling for someone to help her because he opened the back door of the plane...”

It doesn’t sound like the stewardess was all that confident that the man would NOT be able to open the door.

Special training. Pah.

45 posted on 08/25/2007 5:08:14 PM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Liberals are blind. They are the dupes of Leftists who know exactly what they're doing.)
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To: LurkedLongEnough
Airline: Passenger Tries To Open Plane Door

When I read the first part of the headline, I thought some guy was trying to get off a plane that had been delayed on the ground for several hours. LOL

46 posted on 08/25/2007 5:08:48 PM PDT by vox humana
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To: Dianna

Yep, never once thought otherwise


47 posted on 08/25/2007 5:09:00 PM PDT by RDTF (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, but Democrats believe every day is April 15th. - Reagan)
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To: bfree
Because the odds are very good. You must be an apologist for the cult of death

So for anything bad that happens anywhere, for anyone to suggest that it wasn't caused by a Muslim is a Muslim terrorist supporter?

48 posted on 08/25/2007 5:10:54 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: NittanyLion

Please explain. Why do you have to depressurize the cabin to open the door?


49 posted on 08/25/2007 5:11:05 PM PDT by gotribe (I've been disenfranchised by the GOP.)
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To: Pablo64
That's what I thought,

"...just doing jobs that American's won't do..."

50 posted on 08/25/2007 5:13:07 PM PDT by skimbell
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