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Craig Arrested, Pleads Guilty Following Incident in Airport Restroom
Roll Call ^ | August 27, 2007 | John McArdle

Posted on 08/27/2007 2:14:41 PM PDT by Shermy

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To: servantboy777

Well, first they keep winning the Republican nomination! Usually because they are the “friendly incumbent” that the sheeple recognize


551 posted on 08/28/2007 12:30:46 PM PDT by Theodore R. ( Cowardice is still forever!)
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To: jamese777

“He was in a restroom known to be a place for soliciting gay sex. He was outted as gay on a gay website last October.”

For goodness sake, he was in an airport bathroom! How many thousands of men each day visit this place “known” for gay sex? Unless there is some other circumstance such as Craig didn’t have a airplane ticket, going to a bathroom in an airport seems pretty normal.

As for being outted as gay on a gay website: it seems to me that this was denied and not proven. The newspaper investigating said they didn’t have enough evidence to run the story.

For a moment, assume that Craig is not gay (or perverted). If you are a gay activist ‘blogger’ wouldn’t a great way to smear a conservative who votes against ‘gay rights’ is to say that you had a gay relationship with that conservative senator, knowing that the Senator can’t proven it one way or the other?


552 posted on 08/28/2007 12:52:26 PM PDT by Combat Override Button
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To: Shermy

Shades of LBJ, Walter Jenkins, and Jack Valenti!


553 posted on 08/28/2007 12:57:02 PM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: lookout88

“The real sick thing is our kids are fighting over in Iraq with guys like this voting”

I don’t understand the comment. Do bathroom shenanigans prevent someone from making a principled vote on Iraq?


554 posted on 08/28/2007 1:01:39 PM PDT by Combat Override Button
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To: BritExPatInFla
In fairness, what illegal activities has Frank been caught in or arrested for?

His "partner" was running a brothel out of Frank's apartment. In fairness, that's all he's been "caught" doing...

555 posted on 08/28/2007 1:11:14 PM PDT by Snardius
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To: Combat Override Button

Give it up. He plead guilty.

Perhaps he shouldn’t have...now he wants to get a good lawyer and fight it? All the while the media will be reporting every titillating aspect of the accusations. No, he weighed that option and decided to take the chance that the media’s wouldn’t pick up on a misdemeanor in another state.

Think about it. You’re a straight, married, innocent guy and suddenly this cop is charging you with (flimsy) charges of public lewdness and soliciting gay sex. You hold a job where the gay lobby would love nothing more than to “out” you (they’ve been trying for years). AND YOU PLEAD GUILTY?! You wouldn’t even fight the charges? Yeah, right. You’d do everything in your power to clear your name.


556 posted on 08/28/2007 1:13:26 PM PDT by Timeout (I hate MediaCrats! ......and trial lawyers.)
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To: Timeout

I don’t know what he wants to do now. Too late to get a lawyer I suppose. If he were innocent, he probably regrets pleading guilty now. He certainly wishes this never saw the light of day.

Not everyone does everything in their power to fight The Man. People pay fines and cop pleas all the time to make things go away. When it is your word against the cop, there is a good chance you will lose. Ever been to traffic court when you were not guilty?

Please assume for a moment that Craig was not guilty. He is a Senator coming up on an election year. Some guy posted that you had gay sex with him and though the newspapers couldn’t find any evidence, the suspicion is still out there. Faced with a court battle versus what he might have seen as a possibility of getting away with some misdemeanor without anyone finding out he made a choice. Not an unreasonable choice in my opinion.

If he chose to fight this in court, he might have won the battle but the result of the war might have been the same: He would have become a liability to the GOP in an election year and people would demand he resign. A no win situation. Hardball politics at its worst.


557 posted on 08/28/2007 1:36:28 PM PDT by Combat Override Button
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To: Combat Override Button
OH for heaven’s sake. The reason he plead guilty was because he was.
There are other reports of his doing this kindo f thing.. Back when Foley was sent packing the blogs mentioned Craig.
Just deal with it.
558 posted on 08/28/2007 2:17:08 PM PDT by Bainbridge
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To: Bainbridge

Sounds like the Republican better get another candidate for 08 real quick like.

But I’m not tapping my toes ...


559 posted on 08/28/2007 2:33:52 PM PDT by patriciaruth (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1562436/posts)
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To: Bainbridge

He probably is guilty of what he was charged with. That being said, based on what I have seen, I have reasonable doubt.

Those “reports” of his doing this kind of thing are from a gay activist blogger. That is the report. It was investigated by two news organizations and they could not corroborate the evidence and therefore didn’t run with the story.

I am just not ready to throw a GOP member under the bus because it is convenient.

Just about every conservative or neocon has been accused of wrongdoing by democrats and a quick read of DU will show that there are plenty of loonies that are ready to hang Rove for being a great political tactician. Politics are a dirty game and the opposition (and our party as well) will throw everything they can at their opponents.

There are plenty of accusations that Rush was taking Viagra to the Dominican Republic, a “well known area where people go for sex with boys and prostitutes”. And there you have it: ‘other reports are out there’. That is how the game is played. Make an accusation and keep making it. Sooner or later people will believe it. At worst if anything happens in the future to the person once accused of wrongdoing, we have already laid the foundation to convict the guy in the public’s eye. Checkmate, and the guy’s career is over.


560 posted on 08/28/2007 2:39:15 PM PDT by Combat Override Button
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To: Bainbridge

“Foley sent packing”

Heeheheee


561 posted on 08/28/2007 2:40:23 PM PDT by Combat Override Button
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To: Riverman94610
Ian Tyson?Was he at one time a part of the folk duo,Ian and Sylvia?

Yes, sir, he was. He now owns a ranch and is a working cowboy and a cowboy singer.

Groups like the Young Rascals,The Buckinghams or Gary Lewis and the Playboys would NEVER get a recording contract today

It's really sad but true. I was listening to the Skyliners' "Since I Don't Have You" the other night and really regretting that that isn't how mainstream music sounds today. It was magical, sweet and innocent. What passes for R&B or soul nowadays usually has a terrible, manufactured beat, a sample from another song, and a singer singing about "gotta get you naked, girl" or something like that. And, instead of a pure voice, we have to put up with all of those runs and vocal gymnastics.
562 posted on 08/28/2007 2:43:46 PM PDT by Rastus
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To: Rastus

The Lovin’Sound from 1967 is one of my all time favorite songs.Glad to hear Tyson is still in the business.
You and I share the same musical sensibilty because The Skyliners with Jimmie Beaumont are on top of my list.This I Swear and Pennies from Heaven are songs I never get tired of along with Since I Don’t Have You.
I was a huge soul music fan back in the day.Rand B is what they called it but today it has no rhythm and no blues.Cookie cutter crap with no creativity.
And,as controversial as this might sound,to me the decline of black music has a lot to do with the decline of education as a priority for most black youth.There will never be any more Smokey Robinsons ,Otis Reddings or Lamont Doziers out there.Today’s writers and singers take no time to learn their craft and give their listeners credit for being intelligent.


563 posted on 08/28/2007 3:08:08 PM PDT by Riverman94610
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To: Dems_R_Losers
I’ll bet Craig never even considered the possibility that his sexual perversion could be used against Mitt Romney.

I think he just didn't believe he was going to get busted, as this article seems to suggest: From Editor and Publisher

How Did News Outlets Miss Senator's Arrest for Nearly Three Months?

It seems to me there was enough smoke out there to alert the Romney camp to the possibility of fire.

564 posted on 08/28/2007 3:19:52 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (I think all legal Americans should get 5 votes apiece to make up for the "new" voters.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

I agree with your assessment. Could be a cop trying to justify his looitering in the john with some forced “results”. Craig should have never plead guilty. Based on what we have heard there’s no way he would have been convicted of squat (pardon the pun).


565 posted on 08/28/2007 5:10:42 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: Joan Kerrey
for at least two minutes of peering through the crack in the door. I guess everyone does that. Tapping foot in next stall, reaching into the space of the adjoining stall.

So what?

It would also be interesting to find out if that restroom was the most convenient to where his flights were. I’ll bet the restroom was not.

Based on what evidence?

I’d say his behavior certainly appeared that he was cruising for sex.

Perhaps you understand "cruising for sex" better than me (which is certainly possible) but I see nothing obvious here based on what we have been told. You think anyone would convict a man because he tapped his feet and spread his feet in the bathroom?

It could be we just have a cop trying to justify his loitering in the can with a "catch". Or could be Craig is gay and was caught cruising. Dunno. But I give the benefit of the doubt to Craig absent better evidence than this.

566 posted on 08/28/2007 5:22:53 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: jamese777
However, with a good lawyer I would think he could easily get out of this.

Even if he beats this particular charge, the real question is whether or not he should resign. Unless he has a much better explanation of that guilty plea than he has given so far, the answer is yes.

In order to stay in the closet and in power, he repeatedly lied to the public about his sexuality, thereby making himself a target for blackmail. How many of his votes were coerced?

Even if he is entirely innocent, after that guilty plea he will never regain the public trust.

He should leave office ASAP.

567 posted on 08/28/2007 5:23:07 PM PDT by TChad
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To: Combat Override Button

and what is your friggen point that you don’t understand? This man making a “principled” decision is a fraud to his family at the very least. This is a leader who sends our son’s to war. He just gave more propaganda to the surrender’s of this country, and have emboldened our enemy once again. The muslims think we are a nation of perverts, and with stuff like this, it is hard to disagree. With my son in harm’s way, this disgusts me.


568 posted on 08/28/2007 5:48:55 PM PDT by lookout88 (proud special forces dad.)
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To: Combat Override Button

Right, politics is a dirty game. I live in Washington. I am neighbors, fellow church goers and school parents with many senators, congressmen, etc.
I believe this story is true and if we do not deal with it correctly it will hurt our side.


569 posted on 08/28/2007 6:05:54 PM PDT by Bainbridge
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To: Bainbridge
Hey, there is more evidence that Craig is as gay as a $3 bill. The local paper in Boise says they had, but kept, a story going back to 1967 from his college days. They also have another episode from a bathroom in DC.

This guy is toast, and needs to step down. NOW!

570 posted on 08/28/2007 6:47:19 PM PDT by CT
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To: cspackler
You are exactly right. This is ridiculous. Have any of the accusers on here read the police report? The charge was misdemeanor - for peeping and for disorderly conduct! How do we know this policeman is non-gay? Am sure Sen. Craig has been one of Hillary's targets. I am sure the Clinton crime machine has operatives in police departments....esp if they are gay. This is not conspiracy, this is pure tee Clinton tactics to take them down one by one. The ATtorney General yesterday, Sen. Craig today. They will not stop.

I just cannot understand the FAST RUSH TO JUDGEMENT by people who surely know not to listen to the MSM for ANY accurate information, esp when it comes to "judgements" on Republicans, esp on Republican Senators. Don't you people slamming Sen. Craig realize the Demarxists just want to get them ALL out of power?????

This is, once again, ridiculous. Much ado about NOTHING.

I don't care if there have been "rumors" about Sen. Craig. You know what? Rumors are just that - rumors. I can start a rumor that Hillary Clinton had Vince Foster killed.....but I would be called a kook. Yet there is much more evidence of THAT "rumor" than there is that Sen. Craig did anything criminal or unseemly or lewd.

571 posted on 08/28/2007 7:22:01 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: Shermy
Here is a salient piece of information from another article:

"Karsnia wrote that when the person occupying the stall beside him left, Craig entered it and blocked the door with his rolling suitcase."

Why is this important? Well it indicates the reason why he was standing outside that stall for 2 minutes. He was simply waiting for one to become unoccupied. Now we don't have all the information on exactly how stalls were there and how many were occupied etc. Doesn't matter. For whatever reason Craig was waiting for a stall to empty and then claimed it.

I also have no idea why the cop adds "blocked the door with his rolling suitcase". Why is this material? If I'm traveling I bring my carryon into a stall. I certainly don't leave it outside. So this piece of information is irrelevant and appears to be included as if to imply something nefarious was going on. The way that statement is worded makes it seems as if the officer is stretching to exaggerate his case.

572 posted on 08/28/2007 7:42:45 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: lookout88
Sorry, I just don’t understand why Craig being a perv has anything to do with his vote on Iraq. I don’t see how this undermines his vote. I honestly don’t see how this allows you extra disgust because your son is in Iraq. No matter though... feel free to be extra disgusted.
573 posted on 08/28/2007 10:11:56 PM PDT by Combat Override Button
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To: fishtank

I had no idea that homos had their own “language” to solicit sex in this way. EW!


574 posted on 08/28/2007 11:35:15 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: HIDEK6

Yeah, blame the media for bringing shame on the GOP. Not a hypocritical bigot liar of a senator.


575 posted on 08/29/2007 3:00:25 AM PDT by LagunaSlick
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To: Shermy
Whether he's guilty or not, this would have been a real easy frame up if the Dems wanted to take a Republican Senator out, or vice versa for that matter.

Here's how it would work:

Step 1. Organize a rumor campaign to give him a history of gayness. This is necessary to sell the frame up.

Step 2. Wait until your target is in a city where operatives sympathetic to your agenda will slap the cuffs on him. There is no other witness or evidence needed except the word of the cop which makes this crime unique as the most exploitable crime for a frame up.

Step 3. The senator has no way of proving himself innocent. It's his word against the cop's word with the whisper campaign predicate making it impossible for him to prevail so he pleads guilty to get it over with instead of dragging it out in court where it will be in the news every day for months. Whichever way the senator proceeds, the sting will have served its purpose.

I could easily see a conspiracy of D'rats going to these lengths to destroy a conservative but I'm not ready to believe that this was such an instance.

After Bush's term is up he better be careful not to be alone in a room with a liberal cop or that cop could slap the cuffs on him and say Bush asked him to sell him some cocaine. They had the rumor mills working overtime to create that history for Bush so the media would say "well, it's not like we didn't know he was a cocaine user so this is no surprise".

576 posted on 08/29/2007 4:19:20 AM PDT by Perchant
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To: plain talk

You think anyone would convict a man because he tapped his feet and spread his feet in the bathroom?


So touching the shoe of the neighboring occupant is perfectly okay? Hand waving under the stall is normal behavior? Peering through the crack in the door for two minutes is perfectly acceptable? If after reading the police report one doesn’t conclude at least bad behavior then I guess the standards have changed over the years.
Personally I think most men would be at least ill at ease being the target of that behavior.

Also I don’t think Craig leads a gay lifestyle. He’s probably a closet case and his only outlet is cruising toilets. As I understand it this is often the case with closeted individuals who will not or can not come to terms with their sexuality. They lead perfectly normal lives except for cruising toilets and porn shop booths.

One of Craig’s favorite haunts I understand also includes Grand Central Station. Wait a bit...more to come I’m sure.


577 posted on 08/29/2007 7:04:13 AM PDT by Joan Kerrey (Believe nothing of what you hear or read and half of what you see.)
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt

We’ll see, won’t we.


578 posted on 08/29/2007 7:33:07 AM PDT by Bainbridge
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To: plain talk
"You think anyone would convict anyone because he tapped his feet and spread his feet in the bathroom?

No. So why did he admit any guilt? Where there's smoke there is fire, PT.

sw

579 posted on 08/29/2007 7:52:16 AM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: greyfoxx39
Interesting, Craig and Romney!
WHAT DO THEY HAVE IN COMMON?
It is ironic that in the Idaho/Utah area they are known as wearing funny underware.
580 posted on 08/29/2007 11:07:21 AM PDT by Idahowonder
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To: spectre
Where there's smoke there is fire, PT.

Where there certainly is a flame(r).

581 posted on 08/29/2007 11:08:34 AM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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To: Combat Override Button

Problem is, Craig has been consistently for decades accused of perverted homosexual activities. This charge is not hurled at other people. It is just hurled at homos.


582 posted on 08/29/2007 12:14:38 PM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: Joan Kerrey

Also I don’t think Craig leads a gay lifestyle. He’s probably a closet case and his only outlet is cruising toilets.”

Isn’t the Republican National Convention in Minneapolis next year?

Stay out of the bathrooms, folks!


583 posted on 08/29/2007 12:15:29 PM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: snarks_when_bored
And just think; He prefers this over that...


584 posted on 08/29/2007 2:32:50 PM PDT by Screamname
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To: Joan Kerrey
He’s probably a closet case and his only outlet is cruising toilets.

based on what? Your gut? Your post is good because it illustrates again why we don't live in a direct democracy (mob rule) and have a representative republic.

I'm not sure about what happened and neither are you. But one possibility is that he is not gay. We already know he was standing outside the stall for 2 minutes. Its in the police report and many missed it. He waited for someone in the stall adjacent the officer to leave and then went in. Hmmm? What an interesting idea. The stalls may have been full and he was just waiting for a shot at one. Who knows? Doubt goes to the Senator. There is very little "evidence" here.

585 posted on 08/29/2007 4:25:25 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: boomop1

“Craig, has to go, how many votes were blackmail results?”

My thoughts exactly!


586 posted on 08/29/2007 5:38:59 PM PDT by penelopesire
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To: Combat Override Button

“Those “reports” of his doing this kind of thing are from a gay activist blogger.”

This is not the first time that Mike Rogers(the blogger/blackmailer/democrat has done this...
You might find this interesting....I did...LOL

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1718486/posts?q=1&;page=1#1

We need to get rid of our ‘liabilities’ at this point. Craig is a liability..plain and simple. We can argue about why and how, but it doesn’t matter..HE NEEDS TO GO!!

I am still mad about what is going on behind the scenes(see link). But it doesn’t change anything, we still need to clean house in the GOP...PERIOD. Just my two cents. I have been gone for awhile, but the minute I heard this news, I knew Mike Rogers, et al, was behind it. He is just about the lowest form of life on the planet and I would not be surprised if this was a ‘targeted’ sting on Craig.

That being said, the Republican ‘Leaders’ on Capitol Hill knew about my research(it was sent to them and the FBI)and so Craig went on with his perverted sexual escapades anyway...

Don’t be surprised if the Clintoon machine has lined up many more for this go-round of elections.

We need to get geared up and start digging the dirt on THEM!! Screw this sitting around waiting for the ax every 2 months!


587 posted on 08/29/2007 6:02:30 PM PDT by penelopesire
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To: ConservativeDude

Exactly WHO has hurled this accusation? Have you checked that out??? You do realize that Senator Craig has LONG been an opponent of special rights for homosexuals. He has also been FOR the sanctity of Marriage amendment and AGAINST gay marriage. Just WHO do YOU think has circulated rumors that Senator Craig is gay?????

I have spread “rumors” that Hillary and Bill Clinton lead a criminal Mafia like organization that kills vocal opponents or destroys them through innuendo, sliming, or outright lies....in the form of open attacks, surreptitious actions such as blackmail or hinted blackmail (remember the FBI files????)

Did you check out the reporter with the Idaho Statesman who did an IN DEPTH examination of Sen. Craig’s life going at least as far back as the 1960’s and his time in a college fraternity? Did you know in ALL THAT SEARCHING AND INTERVIEWS WITH HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE WHO KNEW SENATOR CRAIG - there were exactly 3 charges of any such behavior by Senator Craig.

3 people out of HUNDREDS.

One is an “anonymous” male who is “sure” it was Senator Craig with whom he had oral sex in a bathroom in Union Station. The Senator has said he was NEVER IN that bathroom . The anonymous accuser could be someone in the gay mafia who is ready and willing to bring down a conservative Senator who has been opposing the militant gay agenda.

Then there was someone from 1994 who claimed Senator Craig followed him around in an REI store and smiled at him and this guy took it to mean Larry Craig was “coming on:” to him......Senator Craig said he is a friendly person - he always looks people in the eye (notice Hitlery and Bubba NEVER look people in the eye.....a very telling sign of an absence of a moral compass and deepseated guilt over very real crimes). Sen. Craig says he does not cruise anywhere looking for gay sex or any kind of sex.

Finally there was a 3rd person back in the 1960’s at his college fraternity where this person was a pledge and who claimed Larry Craig came on to him there. Senator Craig has flatly denied this. NOBODY has substantiated the “pledge’s” charge. Don’t you think if Larry Craig had proclivities to homosexual cruising, or coming on to people, that there would be AT LEAST tens if not hundreds of witnesses from the past 40 years who would attest to this????

I can come up with 3 people who will charge Bill Clinton with unwanted sexual assault, and then add to that number at least another 10 and probably more who would attest to Bill Clinton as a sexual predator5. NONE of THAT would be LIES.

But even when doing their very very best to tarnish Sen. Craig over this “perceived” proclivity for homosexual sex - they could come up with zero legitimate accusers. ZERO.

Sorry but anybody can be rumored to be anything in this day and time.

The issue is NOT the rumors. The issue is WHO HAS AN AGENDA to rumor a person out of office and out of power. The issue is WHERE IS THE PROOF that Sen. Craig has EVER engaged in this charged perverse behavior.

It does NOT exist. Nothing. Nada.

WAke UP!


588 posted on 08/29/2007 6:57:14 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: Bainbridge

Yes we will.

I listened to cspan this morning. 99% of the callers attacked Sen. Craig as “doing that deed” in the bathroom, or that perversity, or whatever you want to call it.

Evidently Americans are VERY offended at the thought of a US Senator having anonymous sex in an airport bathroom.....yet do not appear to be bothered by a Democratic congressman (Barney Frank) who ran a homosexual brothel out of his apartment and who paid off his “male madam”’s parking tickets (about 40) in order to facilitate this “business” (perversity) - using his congressional perk of being able to fix such tickets! And Americans evidently are NOT offended by a PRESIDENT for pete’s sake who has been accused of rape by a woman whose account, when examined by Lisa Myers of mainstream media outlet NBC, believed HER.....evidently the fact that the PRESIDENT of the USA could very likely be a vicious rapist matters not a whit to most Americans.

OR MAYBE BILL CLINTON’S RAPE OF JUANITA BRODDERICK WAS NOT RUMORED BECAUSE THE LEGION OF WOMEN WHOM BILL CLINTON ATTACKED DO NOT CONSTITUTE A MAJOR POWER BROKERING COMMUNITY/POLITICAL POWER ARM OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY AS THOSE WHO PARROT THE MILITANT GAY AGENDA PUSHERS! Maybe Bill Clintons crimes against women did not alarm Americans because the BOUGHT PRESS (THEY ARE CALLED PRESSTITUTES) didn’t find it necessary to spread those rumors....as the Idaho STatesman felt compelled to do about Senator Craig for the last 8 months or so!

Sorry for the rant to you - it’s not against YOU.

It is against the total blatant ridiculousness of the blindness of what has gone on here.

Check out Senator Craig’s rating by the Conservative Union. I don’t even know what it is. But I can bet it is ten thousand times more in line with what supposedly most members of Free Republic claim to support than any Democrat in any branch of government anywhere in this country.

So, then, they got Santorum. They got Allen. (what was that about - one word???) And they got Gonzalez. They got Rove. And now they have “got” Senator Craig they think.

And given the total assumption of guilt as a pervert by many REPUBLICANS or CONSERVATIVES - we may lose that strong conservative in the Senate.

Hello????

Is anybody awake in the country?????


589 posted on 08/29/2007 7:08:18 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: Bainbridge

Yes we will.

I listened to cspan this morning. 99% of the callers attacked Sen. Craig as “doing that deed” in the bathroom, or that perversity, or whatever you want to call it.

Evidently Americans are VERY offended at the thought of a US Senator having anonymous sex in an airport bathroom.....yet do not appear to be bothered by a Democratic congressman (Barney Frank) who ran a homosexual brothel out of his apartment and who paid off his “male madam”’s parking tickets (about 40) in order to facilitate this “business” (perversity) - using his congressional perk of being able to fix such tickets! And Americans evidently are NOT offended by a PRESIDENT for pete’s sake who has been accused of rape by a woman whose account, when examined by Lisa Myers of mainstream media outlet NBC, believed HER.....evidently the fact that the PRESIDENT of the USA could very likely be a vicious rapist matters not a whit to most Americans.

OR MAYBE BILL CLINTON’S RAPE OF JUANITA BRODDERICK WAS NOT RUMORED BECAUSE THE LEGION OF WOMEN WHOM BILL CLINTON ATTACKED DO NOT CONSTITUTE A MAJOR POWER BROKERING COMMUNITY/POLITICAL POWER ARM OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY AS THOSE WHO PARROT THE MILITANT GAY AGENDA PUSHERS! Maybe Bill Clintons crimes against women did not alarm Americans because the BOUGHT PRESS (THEY ARE CALLED PRESSTITUTES) didn’t find it necessary to spread those rumors....as the Idaho STatesman felt compelled to do about Senator Craig for the last 8 months or so!

Sorry for the rant to you - it’s not against YOU.

It is against the total blatant ridiculousness of the blindness of what has gone on here.

Check out Senator Craig’s rating by the Conservative Union. I don’t even know what it is. But I can bet it is ten thousand times more in line with what supposedly most members of Free Republic claim to support than any Democrat in any branch of government anywhere in this country.

So, then, they got Santorum. They got Allen. (what was that about - one word???) And they got Gonzalez. They got Rove. And now they have “got” Senator Craig they think.

And given the total assumption of guilt as a pervert by many REPUBLICANS or CONSERVATIVES - we may lose that strong conservative in the Senate.

Hello????

Is anybody awake in the country?????


590 posted on 08/29/2007 7:17:01 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: All

Sorry for the double post. I had typed out another LONG post re: the fact that while most people in this country and in this world think Senator Craig commited a heinous perverse sexual act in that bathroom with another man - NOTHING LIKE THAT WAS CHARGED AGAINST HIM AND HE DID NOT PLEAD GUILTY TO ANYTHING LIKE SUCH A CHARGE!!!

What non thinkers we have become - even in the Republican party. Especially among others who should KNOW better about giving the guy some benefit of INVESTIGATING THE FACTS INSTEAD OF JUMPING ON THE INSTANT CONDEMN SEN.CRAIG BANDWAGON when he “confessed” to doing nothing more than tapping his feet!


591 posted on 08/29/2007 7:19:35 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt

“I have spread “rumors” that Hillary and Bill Clinton lead a criminal Mafia like organization that kills vocal opponents or destroys them through innuendo, sliming, or outright lies....in the form of open attacks, surreptitious actions such as blackmail or hinted blackmail (remember the
FBI files????)”

and most of your ‘rumors’ were and are true.
But the dems, the media and Clinton holdouts in the FBI and CIA have jumped the shark now... into blackmail, political bias, extortion,activism, profitearing,etc.

IT WORKS FOR THEM..because WE are weak in our knees right now because of the trivial nature of it all... after all......THERE ARE ISLAMIC NUT JOBS TRYING TO GET NUCLEAR WEAPONS TO DROP ON OUR CITIES!!

The world has gone crazy and the Washington Post et al wants me to think that it is because there are some closet homosexuals in the Republican party???

BOTTOM LINE...Which party is focussed on sex....and which party is focussed on the enemy?

GIVE ME A BREAK!!


592 posted on 08/29/2007 8:41:51 PM PDT by penelopesire
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt
Now look, I agree with your post about the vile double standard that exists. I am about as conservative as they come.
I live in DC and know many of the characters that you see talking on TV, pontificating obnoxiously or sincerely explaining there principles. However, although the immoral left has no standards and is gleeful about those on our side who do maintain the ones they profess, I will not abandon mine and will hold those who pretend to agree with me and are chosen to come here promising to represent the right things to an unwavering standard.
Larry Craig was plainly seeking an illicit lewd homosexual liaison., to pretend otherwise is either willful naivete or rank stupidity. His not resigning when caught this week speaks volumes about his low character. He is plainly not ashamed. He dragged his humiliated wife out, just like Vitter, and made up insulting nonsense.
We will always be held to an unyieldingly high standard and the wolves will be prowling relentlessly. And that is just the way it is.
593 posted on 08/30/2007 6:10:24 AM PDT by Bainbridge
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To: plain talk

I’m not sure about what happened and neither are you.


He pleaded guilty.


594 posted on 08/30/2007 7:21:14 AM PDT by Joan Kerrey (Believe nothing of what you hear or read and half of what you see.)
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To: plain talk
Okay, look. The undercover cop was in that particular bathroom for a reason. It is known as a Gay Tryst spot. I assume that there are many bathrooms at the Minneapolis Airport. Would you be convinced if we found out that maybe this bathroom was not the closest one to his gate? OR would you pretend that nothing happened.
The reason he plead guilty is that he panicked. The reason he panicked was that he has done these things and knows that to be exposed, ha ha, would be the end of him. So he stupidly tried to finesses it and being the moron he is , blundered.
The truth will out.
595 posted on 08/30/2007 8:07:22 AM PDT by Bainbridge
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt

When posters start screaming at “All”, I usually think it’s time for them to take a break.


596 posted on 08/30/2007 8:09:12 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: snarks_when_bored; Shermy; Uncledave
Fellow scientists:

As part of a scientific research project, 'cause I am, that kind of objective person, I showed the snarkster's very kindly posted picture of the attractive and healthy young woman to a member of Barney (The Bugger of Bayonne)Frank's staff.

He became very sweaty and said,

"Geez, I....I....I wish I was a Lesbian."

597 posted on 08/30/2007 10:04:36 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk ( Teddy K's 'Ďmmigration Reform Act' of 1965. ˇGrácias, Borracho!)
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To: Bainbridge
>>The undercover cop was in that particular bathroom for a reason. It is known as a Gay Tryst spot.<<

I wonder if the bathroom rendezvous was posted in "Craig's List."

Wikipedia reference
598 posted on 08/30/2007 11:05:25 AM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Illegals: representation without taxation--Citizens: taxation without representation)
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To: trisham

Fine. I was angry. That’s why I screamed. And tired. But your concern is so kind.

Not all of us can be composed and quiet at all times.

By the way to you like Mark Levin’s program? I absolutely LOVE it.

And you never did address ONE of the issues I mentioned. Why don’t you take a stab at that.


599 posted on 08/30/2007 6:51:32 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: Bainbridge

Yes the truth will out.

Have you listened to any of the police “interrogation” of Senator Craig?????

More truth is OUT in that.....find it soon because it won’t be available to find much longer.

IMHO, it shows the police “officer” to be a young gungho entrapper who would not let the Senator speak. He kept talking over the Senator. The Senator flat out denied any such behavior that they were trying to insinuate - but which NEVER TOOK PLACE IN THAT BATHROOM!!!!

Tom Delay at least knows what it’s like to be railroaded falsely - and he said tonight he will NOT judge Sen. Craig or call for him to resign - because we don’t know all the facts yet.

AMEN, Congressman DeLay! (Yes he is still a Congressman - because he was railroaded out of Congress by the sheister Demonazi in that Texas town....with made up charges against him).


600 posted on 08/30/2007 6:55:45 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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