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Blackwater Buys Brazilian Bombers-(mercenaries)
strategy page ^ | August 27, 2007 | strategy page

Posted on 08/27/2007 4:25:09 PM PDT by Flavius

Security company Blackwater U.S.A. is buying Super Tucano light combat aircraft from the Brazilian manufacturer Embraer. These five ton, single engine, single seat aircraft are built for pilot training, but also perform quite well for counter-insurgency work.


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TOPICS: News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aerospace; army; aviation; blackwater; civiliancontractors; embraer; mercenary; usa
so this is a mercenary army then
1 posted on 08/27/2007 4:25:11 PM PDT by Flavius
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To: Flavius
These days, it's hard to believe there are still "military" aircraft that start up with the age-old cry of "contact"!

And...can be shot down with a BB gun....

2 posted on 08/27/2007 4:26:52 PM PDT by NorCoGOP (Visit my blog! http://shawnsblogroom.blogspot.com)
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To: Flavius
A needed asset for BW - BW has used their little birds (helos) extremely effectively in Iraq -
3 posted on 08/27/2007 4:28:01 PM PDT by SevenMinusOne
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To: Flavius

How many seats?


4 posted on 08/27/2007 4:29:01 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
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To: Flavius
so this is a mercenary army then

Yes, a private army based out of the United States with a declared loyalty to our nation and it's national interests.

5 posted on 08/27/2007 4:32:48 PM PDT by SunStar (Democrats piss me off!)
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To: Yo-Yo
It says one seat but photo shows two. LOL
6 posted on 08/27/2007 4:33:10 PM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto)
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To: NorCoGOP
Actually, the Tucano is one of the best observation aircraft on the market. It has the ability to fly a long time at relatively slow speeds, to allow the crew to utilize the great bubble canopy (which gives them an excellent view of what is below them) to look for targets on the ground.

It has been put to good use by Brazil and Columbia, hunting down drug farms and factories hidden deep in the jungle, and it can carry a whole heck of a lot of firepower.

7 posted on 08/27/2007 4:34:32 PM PDT by Stonewall Jackson (The Hunt for FRed November. 11/04/08)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

Yeah, I know. I was just being a smart a$$. They can be ordered either way.

These are great for border patrol and interdiction of light civilian aircraft of the type used for drug smugglers. They are also great for attacking lightly armed ground targets.


8 posted on 08/27/2007 4:39:05 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
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To: Stonewall Jackson

Seems like slow and low would work well over jungle.


9 posted on 08/27/2007 4:39:45 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Greed is NOT a conservative ideal.)
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To: Yo-Yo

I looked them up and mostly single seaters.


10 posted on 08/27/2007 4:42:57 PM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto)
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To: cripplecreek

Looks like Spitfire...


11 posted on 08/27/2007 4:44:49 PM PDT by traumer
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To: Flavius

I never realized Embraer was Brazilian. Guess that explains the G-string on the tail...


12 posted on 08/27/2007 4:46:14 PM PDT by inkling (exurbanleague.com)
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To: NorCoGOP

I’d like to see you shooting at one of those things with a BB gun, while I watched from a safe distance.


13 posted on 08/27/2007 4:46:24 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: cripplecreek

Peruvian Tucano T-27 shooting down drug smugglers over the jungle. (Or was that missionaries?,:-0)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHDZqUa0m1s


14 posted on 08/27/2007 4:46:51 PM PDT by Rb ver. 2.0 (Reunite Gondwanaland!)
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To: Flavius
so this is a mercenary army then

You know? If I was serving in the military in any sort of special forces type unit, say, Army Ranger, Navy Seal, etc., I think I'd say "Screw re-enlisting!" and go work for Blackwater. Same type of work, much higher pay, no military bureaucratic BS. And you could grow your hair long!

I wonder how many guys are doing exactly this?

15 posted on 08/27/2007 4:48:49 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: Flavius

16 posted on 08/27/2007 4:49:19 PM PDT by rottndog (Government is a necessary evil, but as with all evils, the less of it the better.)
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To: Flavius

Bomber?


17 posted on 08/27/2007 4:58:02 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: Flavius
In May '07, Blackwater bought three used Merlin IIIC's

They also have 2 369FF's and recently had a 369F destroyed.

18 posted on 08/27/2007 5:07:49 PM PDT by diogenes ghost
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To: Stonewall Jackson

A lot of the benefits of the old Skyraider but I’m sure it can’t come close to hauling the ordnance load of a “Sandy”. I bet it’s a lot quieter, though.


19 posted on 08/27/2007 5:34:24 PM PDT by beelzepug ("One should never ascribe to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.")
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To: NorCoGOP

In Korea 52-53, the old T-6 trainer was effectively used for close support and yes they came home with bullet holes. had privilege of riding twice to adjust some artillery fire - preferred the OP on ground.


20 posted on 08/27/2007 5:45:45 PM PDT by elpadre
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To: Flavius
Great news, and I LOVE the aircraft, but people are missing the key lesson: this development mostly hightlights how incredibly LEGALISTIC it has become to be a US SOLDIER.

These guys are Baseball & Applie Pie, sure, but technically they're not US TROOPS --they've got all of the CanDO and FIGHT of the US, but NONE of the legal entanglements.

See the irony?

Even as our enemies become NON-STATE ACTORS, the antitode, too, is more and more just THAT.

You are seeing the beginning of the rise of very powerful, very professional mercenary armies.

The first "network war" --very corporate.

I think we should encourage this TO THE UTMOST. And I also see this as the solution to our border CHAOS.

Not bound to be popular, but BOUND TO BE TRUE!

21 posted on 08/27/2007 5:55:47 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: beelzepug
It can only carry about half the load a Sandy could, but it is faster, more maneuverable, and has a longer range than the old Skyraider.

There was a video on YouTube a while back that was taken from a Columbian patrol aircraft of a Super Tucano bouncing a drug plane. The Tucano made numerous attempts to force the other pilot to surrender, but he kept trying to get away from them, so finally the Tucano's pilot opened up with his cannon and machine guns and started some neat fireworks.

22 posted on 08/27/2007 6:26:21 PM PDT by Stonewall Jackson (The Hunt for FRed November. 11/04/08)
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To: ozzymandus; NorCoGOP; Liberty Valance

Stop that. You’ll put your eye out!


23 posted on 08/27/2007 6:43:01 PM PDT by Brucifer (G. W. Bush "The dog ate my copy of the Constitution.")
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To: Flavius

It would be to the advantage of the US to do a significant expansion of Johnston Island Atoll in the Pacific as a permanent base for a professional mercenary army, along the lines of the French Foreign Legion.

As a public-private partnership, ex-US military personnel could be the officers and senior NCOs in command of the cream of the crop of non-US citizen, but “uniformable” mercenaries, such as Gurkhas, Sikhs, Samoans, etc.

In turn, they would work as contractors in support of US military missions of only marginal national interest, or under the operational control of allied nations or tasked to support UN commitments.

The value of this is that it would be far more cost-effective in many situations, both in terms of American lives and expense, than using US personnel.

They could be used as rapid response light infantry peacekeeping forces, transported and supplied by the US military, and would be under far fewer constraints in achieving their operational objectives.

Optimally, a brigade of 5,000 would be able to deploy anywhere in the world within 24 hours. However, in addition to barracks, support and supplies provided to this foreign legion, it would also be allowed to subcontract to any US approved mission around the world, and because it would be a semi-private operation, the mercenaries could be augmented with whatever equipment they wanted.


24 posted on 08/27/2007 6:53:23 PM PDT by Popocatapetl
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