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Sen. Larry Craig Caught With His Pants Down
yahoo.com ^ | 8/27/07 | yahoo.com

Posted on 08/27/2007 4:39:28 PM PDT by Screamname

Sen. Larry Craig Caught With His Pants Down

The Nation -- Republican Idaho Senator Larry Craig is the latest Conflicted Conservative in Crisis to be caught with his pants down. According to Roll Call , Craig was arrested in June at a Minnesota airport by a plainclothes police officer investigating lewd conduct complaints in a men's public restroom. He has pleaded guilty to the charge.

Craig has faced pointed rumors of same-sex affairs in the past. Craig responded to these allegations with strident denials. Now, as details of Craig's recent arrest emerge, he seems increasinly cockeyed, so to speak.

This story would not matter if Craig wasn't using his position to advance the Republican Party's officially homophobic agenda. In November, 2006, Craig flamboyantly endorsed Idaho's successful anti-gay constitutional amendment, HJR 2, which banned gay marriage, civil unions and domestic partnerships in his state. Pam Spaulding has more background on Craig's anti-gay voting record here. It's also worth recalling Craig's 1999 interview with Tim Russert in which he mocked Bill Clinton as a "naughty boy" for his affair with Monica Lewinsky.

Craig is up for re-election in 2008. Will his carnality in public restrooms put an end to his career in public life? Idaho conservatives may be willing to reward bigotry, but lying is another matter.

Here's the full story on Craig's men's room exploits, according to the sub-only Roll Call: According to the incident report, Sgt. Dave Karsnia was working as a plainclothes officer on June 11 investigating civilian complaints regarding sexual activity in the men's public restroom in which Craig was arrested.

Airport police previously had made numerous arrests in the men's restroom of the Northstar Crossing in the Lindbergh Terminal in connection with sexual activity.

Karsnia entered the bathroom at noon that day and about 13 minutes after taking a seat in a stall, he stated he could see "an older white male with grey hair standing outside my stall."

The man, who lingered in front of the stall for two minutes, was later identified as Craig.

"I could see Craig look through the crack in the door from his position. Craig would look down at his hands, 'fidget' with his fingers, and then look through the crack into my stall again. Craig would repeat this cycle for about two minutes," the report states.

Craig then entered the stall next to Karsnia's and placed his roller bag against the front of the stall door.

"My experience has shown that individuals engaging in lewd conduct use their bags to block the view from the front of their stall," Karsnia stated in his report. "From my seated position, I could observe the shoes and ankles of Craig seated to the left of me."

Craig was wearing dress pants with black dress shoes.

"At 1216 hours, Craig tapped his right foot. I recognized this as a signal used by persons wishing to engage in lewd conduct. Craig tapped his toes several times and moves his foot closer to my foot. I moved my foot up and down slowly. While this was occurring, the male in the stall to my right was still present. I could hear several unknown persons in the restroom that appeared to use the restroom for its intended use. The presence of others did not seem to deter Craig as he moved his right foot so that it touched the side of my left foot which was within my stall area," the report states.

Craig then proceeded to swipe his hand under the stall divider several times, and Karsnia noted in his report that "I could ... see Craig had a gold ring on his ring finger as his hand was on my side of the stall divider."

Karsnia then held his police identification down by the floor so that Craig could see it.

"With my left hand near the floor, I pointed towards the exit. Craig responded, 'No!' I again pointed towards the exit. Craig exited the stall with his roller bags without flushing the toilet. ... Craig said he would not go. I told Craig that he was under arrest, he had to go, and that I didn't want to make a scene. Craig then left the restroom."

In a recorded interview after his arrest, Craig "either disagreed with me or 'didn't recall' the events as they happened," the report states.

Craig stated "that he has a wide stance when going to the bathroom and that his foot may have touched mine," the report states. Craig also told the arresting officer that he reached down with his right hand to pick up a piece of paper that was on the floor.

"It should be noted that there was not a piece of paper on the bathroom floor, nor did Craig pick up a piece of paper," the arresting officer said in the report.

On Aug. 8, the day he pleaded guilty to disorderly conduct in the Minnesota court, Craig appeared via satellite at a ceremony that took place in Idaho in which former Idaho federal Judge Randy Smith was invested into his new position as a judge on the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Idaho
KEYWORDS: 110th; craig; gey; larrycraig; pervert; republican; seebreakingnews

1 posted on 08/27/2007 4:39:29 PM PDT by Screamname
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2 posted on 08/27/2007 4:40:57 PM PDT by Screamname (The only reason time exists is so everything doesn`t happen all at once - Albert Einstein)
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To: Screamname
Part of the perversion that is homosexuality; sex in public places.
3 posted on 08/27/2007 4:41:40 PM PDT by ConservativeofColor
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To: ConservativeofColor

It will be interesting being that he is a Repub if he will get millions for a book deal, a one hour show on Oprah, and multiple favorable reviews in the New York Times like Gov. Jim McSleezy who put the security of the entire state of New Jersey at risk.


4 posted on 08/27/2007 4:45:34 PM PDT by Screamname (The only reason time exists is so everything doesn`t happen all at once - Albert Einstein)
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To: ConservativeofColor

I’m getting to the point where I just don’t care about that—my rage at the betrayals overshadows all. Haggard, Foley, this kook. It seems that NO one speaks for us and acts for us.


5 posted on 08/27/2007 4:45:56 PM PDT by jammer
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To: Screamname

I wonder if he’ll now come out of the stall?


6 posted on 08/27/2007 4:46:05 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: Screamname
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7 posted on 08/27/2007 4:46:39 PM PDT by missnry (The truth will set you free ... and drive liberals Crazy!)
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To: Screamname
Speaking to CNN on August 27th, Craig said he should have sought legal counsel before pleading guilty to the charges from June 11th, and now wishes he had done so.

It's not like you have a degree in political science, Larry, and pass "laws" all day long while speaking to the countless lawyers who populate the US Capitol building...

8 posted on 08/27/2007 4:48:03 PM PDT by an amused spectator (AGW: If you drag a hundred dollar bill through a research lab, you never know what you'll find)
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To: ConservativeofColor

Another article I read about this said that he tried to use his status as a U.S. Senator to get out of it. How stupid is that? Public opinion about Congress is at an all-time low, for one thing, and, for another, being so indentified only makes the story bigger.


9 posted on 08/27/2007 4:48:16 PM PDT by Emmett McCarthy
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To: Screamname

Scumbags like this absolutely disgust me.

I have no particular problem with him being a degenerate (as long as he does so on his own time) but he has no business serving in a public office, and especially not as a Republican.

Thanks for the ‘gift that keeps on giving’ Larry!


10 posted on 08/27/2007 4:51:38 PM PDT by rockrr (Global warming is to science what Islam is to religion)
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To: Screamname
the latest Conflicted Conservative in Crisis

Yes, another case of Conservative Hypocrisy for the lefties to crow about. What's the equivalent on their side? Al Gore wanting to force everybody else to ride a bike while he flies private jets, etc. John Edwards bemoaning poverty while padding his expense accounts. The difference is that Craig is finished in public life, and Gore will continue to get Oscars and big speaking fees and Edwards will continue to run for President and rate respectful ass-kissing from the MSM. It's the double standard.

11 posted on 08/27/2007 4:52:37 PM PDT by Argus
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To: missnry

LOL!!!! BRIAN FELLOWS!!! LMAO!!! I swear, the first time I saw that on SNL I was laughing so hard I couldn`t breathe! “That bird is a liar... I`m Brian Fellows!”!! LOL!


12 posted on 08/27/2007 4:52:42 PM PDT by Screamname (The only reason time exists is so everything doesn`t happen all at once - Albert Einstein)
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To: ConservativeofColor

Foley left congress and Craig won’t be far behind.

His support for amnesty was enough for me to want him gone.

This gay bathroom crap will end his career.

Good riddance to an amnesty supporter


13 posted on 08/27/2007 4:53:08 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: Screamname

Brian just seems to fit in this situation!


14 posted on 08/27/2007 4:57:01 PM PDT by missnry (The truth will set you free ... and drive liberals Crazy!)
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To: Screamname

The difference is, the left “feels” for their repressed brethren who are forced to seek sexual solace in public bathrooms. Like McGreevey, they even write books about it.

The right doesn’t tolerate perversions like that.


15 posted on 08/27/2007 4:57:27 PM PDT by I still care ("Remember... for it is the doom of men that they forget" - Merlin, from Excalibur)
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To: Screamname

What a nasty bastard.


16 posted on 08/27/2007 4:57:28 PM PDT by afraid
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To: Screamname
Larry Craig is toast. I certainly would not want to represented by a Senator who drops his pants in public. There is something seriously wrong with him - he needs help. But not on the taxpayer's dime.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

17 posted on 08/27/2007 5:01:58 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: missnry

You ever see this?? This is my all time favorite SNL skit..This is the one that almost killed me. I watched it with my brother while it was being broadcast live and I swear I was on the floor in a panic attack from not being able to breathe. After that I could understand how someone could literally die from laughing.

http://www.buzznet.com/tags/debbiedowner/video/


18 posted on 08/27/2007 5:02:40 PM PDT by Screamname (The only reason time exists is so everything doesn`t happen all at once - Albert Einstein)
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To: Screamname

I’ve seen some VERY attractive ladies in my past. I can’t think of one I’d want to have sex with in a public restroom.


19 posted on 08/27/2007 5:12:58 PM PDT by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: Screamname

Haven’t seen that one before. The video reminds me of someone I used to work with though!


20 posted on 08/27/2007 5:14:21 PM PDT by missnry (The truth will set you free ... and drive liberals Crazy!)
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To: rockrr

At least its out now and now 3-4 months before the election(foley)


21 posted on 08/27/2007 5:15:17 PM PDT by italianquaker (Obamas "spiritual advisor" , ." On the Sunday after the attacks, Dr. Wright blamed America.)
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To: Screamname

Craig apparently made certain movements that the policeman recognized as being signals between homosexuals. Was this illegal if the senator hadn’t read the handout?


22 posted on 08/27/2007 5:19:01 PM PDT by OldEagle
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To: Screamname
Idaho conservatives may be willing to reward bigotry, but lying is another matter.

Sheesh.

23 posted on 08/27/2007 5:23:36 PM PDT by JOAT
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To: Screamname

If he doesn’t it will just mean it is one less sleeze we have to listen and hear about. I dont’ care what party it is...this was wrong.


24 posted on 08/27/2007 5:36:18 PM PDT by cubreporter ( Rush has done more for our country from where he sits than anyone will ever know.)
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To: cubreporter

I thought Republicans were Anti-Gay? Am I missing something here? The GOP apparently has Gays in High Places. And the Main Stream media rather than saying, The Republicans are not the narrow minded Cretins we make them out to be. Instead say another “Fag Republican” was caught. What gives?

The Demorats love Gays until they are members of the GOP. Then they are dirty scoundrels? Two faced liars and hypocrits. That’s what the Demorats are today. They hurl the Gay Insult when a GOP member is outed. If they out themselves as Demorats they are courageous. Otherwise they are Sexual Deviants.


25 posted on 08/27/2007 5:43:21 PM PDT by Khankrumthebulgar
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To: Screamname

Is Derek Jeter gay??????


26 posted on 08/27/2007 5:52:07 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX
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To: Pining_4_TX

No but apparently, well, according to one of Jessica Alba’s former personal assistants he’s been “giving the gift that keeps on giving”


27 posted on 08/27/2007 5:55:11 PM PDT by mrmargaritaville
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To: Khankrumthebulgar

OK, here is my latest conspiracy theory... enjoy!

Homosexuals are deliberately infiltrating the GOP so they can say either (1) See, we’re gay and we’re Republicans, too! or (2) They can claim to be anti-homosexual agenda politicians, and then when they are caught, it makes the GOP look like the party of hypocrites.

Either way it advances the homosexual agenda.


28 posted on 08/27/2007 5:55:41 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX
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To: Screamname
Republican Idaho Senator Larry Craig

Well, that didnt take long....first word.

29 posted on 08/27/2007 6:09:19 PM PDT by lowbridge ("We control this House, not the parliamentarians! -Congressman Steny Hoyer (D))
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To: Screamname
This story would not matter if Craig wasn't using his position to advance the Republican Party's officially homophobic agenda.

Homophobic agenda? That's a loaded term. Fair and balanced this article is not.

Moreover, why should this story matter only because of the senator's party affiliation? If a Democrat were to violate the law in the same way, he should receive the same attention from the press. Or he would if the press were honest.

30 posted on 08/27/2007 6:15:59 PM PDT by Logophile
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To: Joe Boucher

The Tampa Bay cheerleaders might just change your mind.


31 posted on 08/27/2007 6:54:39 PM PDT by gcruse (...now I have to feed the dog as if nothing has happened.)
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To: gcruse

I lived in Tampa for about 6 years and yes there are many very nice specimens there, I still wouldn’t care to have sex in a public restroom with any of them much less a perfect stranger male.


32 posted on 08/28/2007 3:04:09 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: Khankrumthebulgar

What you said is true. The GOP has lost all my respect. They are so weak it is pitiful. Latest example: Gonzales stepping down. Why not stand tall and fight? It’s the same old thing all the time. I just don’t care anymore ... I know I should but...I just don’t even want to look at any of these politicians anymore on EITHER SIDE. They disgust me.


33 posted on 08/28/2007 8:15:32 AM PDT by cubreporter ( Rush has done more for our country from where he sits than anyone will ever know.)
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To: cubreporter

Socialism is probably coming to the U.S. very soon, and this will continue to make U.S. politics at every level much worse everyday on all of the issues! The Democrats will probably end up controlling everything important politically starting in January ‘09. This super-majority of Democrats will allow amnesty for illegal immigrants to happen permanently. All of the future U.S. problems with many more endless waves of illegal immigrants coming here and then many of them also registering to vote while they are here in the U.S. will only kill off both the Republican Party and all of conservatism! Where’s this country’s future if nearly all of one’s well earned money ends up going to support the U.S. illegal immigration population forever? All of us might as well not even work anymore, and everybody should just go onto the welfare rolls if everything mentioned above does become true! Conservatives at every political level must fully point out all of these things to the majority of the general public prior to November 4, 2008 before we all lose this country to socialism forever.


34 posted on 08/28/2007 8:39:25 AM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore
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To: Screamname
...Craig said he should have sought legal counsel before pleading guilty to the charges..."

I believe the saying is "he who represents his self represents a fool."

35 posted on 08/28/2007 8:43:41 AM PDT by DaGman (`)
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To: Screamname

I thought liberals loved this type of behavior and even encouraged it.


36 posted on 08/28/2007 8:58:52 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: Screamname
I guess I’m the only person who had to look up what a roller bag is. It is one of those bags on little wheels people pull around on a retractable stick. I never knew that was what they were called. Hah - for years I called them stewardess bags because I only ever saw them pulling them. Now everyone has one and I want one, too.
37 posted on 08/28/2007 9:09:15 AM PDT by A knight without armor
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To: KC_Conspirator

Foley will resign while William Jefferson (D-LA) continues to serve.


38 posted on 08/28/2007 9:09:44 AM PDT by ulm1 (Infanticide,Gay Marriage, Anti GOD, Environmental Nazis. Todays LIEberal DemocRAT Party Platform.)
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To: ulm1

I meant Craig will resign


39 posted on 08/28/2007 9:10:08 AM PDT by ulm1 (Infanticide,Gay Marriage, Anti GOD, Environmental Nazis. Todays LIEberal DemocRAT Party Platform.)
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To: ulm1

Yeah, until Jefferson resigns, no Republican ought to resign.


40 posted on 08/28/2007 10:00:48 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: Screamname

Larry Craig’s upcoming resignation from the Senate is unfortunate only because it didn’t happen earlier this year. The toughest anti-Invasion candidates running for his seat and a war vet, Robert Vazquez, dropped out of the race in April for lack of funds and support from the RINO-led GOP in Idaho. Vazquez, a superb speaker who takes no quarter from anyone, would have been an excellent candidate.


41 posted on 08/28/2007 2:30:08 PM PDT by levotb
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To: johnthebaptistmoore

That’s the problem though. The conservatives WON’T point all of this out. There isn’t one with the courage of his/her convictions that would do that. PC. That’s the name of the game. Too bad...PC will KILL this country.


42 posted on 08/28/2007 3:00:57 PM PDT by cubreporter ( Rush has done more for our country from where he sits than anyone will ever know.)
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To: levotb

Craig should have resigned entirely from politics back in the early `80`s. Not because he`s gay, but because he`s in the closet and he could be blackmailed if he hasn`t been already. I mean think about it, he was caught with this bathroom “Jim McGreevy” type of scene. How many times has he done this before without being caught? How many times was he threatened with exposure if he did do certain things or vote a certain way? This idiot should be nowhere near anything having to do with politics. Vazquez should do everything he can to get back in and present everything that is the exact opposite of Craig. That the RINOS don`t support a guy like that shows how full of it they are. This is what drives me crazy, when good candidates have to drop out for lack of funds. Yet all these sh*tbags pull in money by the truckload. Look at Duncan Hunter; Hands down the best Repub candidate for President since Reagan, yet he just doesn`t have the loot and therefore the country will suffer when it elects some moron like Guliani or Hitlery.


43 posted on 08/28/2007 3:54:09 PM PDT by Screamname (The only reason time exists is so everything doesn`t happen all at once - Albert Einstein)
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To: Screamname

Our conversations appeared on Pandagon.net. The former Blogger in Chief Amanda Marcotte of John Edwards. Hey Amanda how come you have not answered my emails?? I will retract my views When Hell Freezes over. There is a double Standard as usual at work here. If Roberts is a closeted Gay. Why does that make him evil? Note if your’e Gay and a “Progressive” you are correct. If you are a Conservative and Gay you are a Traitor or turncoat.

On this count Ann Coulter is 100% correct. Oh and your Buddy’s wife deliberately omitted the rest of Coulter’s quote. That makes Elizabeth Edwards a Liar.


44 posted on 08/28/2007 6:36:46 PM PDT by Khankrumthebulgar
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