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To: neverdem
It really surprises me how offended so many people are about the individual mandate in Massachusetts.

The fact is, people who can afford health insurance but don't buy it are being as irresponsible as people who don't buy auto insurance. As conservatives, we ought to be supporting personal responsibility.

I'm dissapointed Mitt didn't include an individual mandate in his national plan. It's still an okay plan, but as the heritage guy says, it will leave the heavy lifting to the states.

17 posted on 08/27/2007 6:48:22 PM PDT by curiosity
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To: curiosity

Health care is not a right. Period.

Government laws to force individuals to do what is (arguably good for them) is not supporting personal responsibility.

The government is the primary reason that the cost of health care and health insurance is so high.

The government has destroyed any resemblance to free market in delivery of health care products. It has ruined health care and now the solution is to force individuals to purchase “insurance” against their will.

People that overeat are irresponsible. Ipso facto it is the government’s right to force them to eat less. Better yet, do as the Brits are doing, deny fat people access to doctors. Yeah, I have a lot of faith that the government should be the final arbitrator of what is good for me (and you).

You want to see a doctor? Better make sure your refrigerator is ready for inspection by your betters.


23 posted on 08/27/2007 7:10:11 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
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To: curiosity

How many calories do you eat a day?.....ya know....it’s not GOOD to eat over a certain amount depending upon your height and build and exercise level....you DO exercise, don’t you?....the State will soon want to be sure of that! Are you seeing the direction GOVERNMENT health care will go? Each individual needs to be RESPONSIBLE for themselves and if they don’t want insurance....suffer the consequences....we have the best place on earth for healthcare, AND the best information about BEING healthy, but unfortunately, SOME people will NEVER care. MANDATING it will NOT make things better....just dumb all insurance down to the ones who do NOT CARE!


25 posted on 08/27/2007 7:30:28 PM PDT by goodnesswins (Being Challenged Builds Character! Being Coddled Destroys Character!)
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To: curiosity
people who can afford health insurance but don't buy it are being as irresponsible as people who don't buy auto insurance.

Not necessarily.

If someone without auto insurance slams into my vehicle, kids or home, I stand to lose millions if that slammer has no money.

If someone gets sick and doesn't have insurance, it doesn't affect me personally at all.

Yes, you could argue that we as a society must collectively pay for emergency rooms/hospitals.

But that doesn't pan out when you consider that many people who DON't have health insurance simply spend LESS on health care, not more.

Those who are covered by health plans (especially those covered by employers) will go to the doctor waaay more, studies show.

If a non-covered person gets sick and dies, it in fact costs society less than if they were covered by Medicaid or Medicare, or whichever.

38 posted on 08/28/2007 3:58:59 AM PDT by Edit35
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To: curiosity
"The fact is, people who can afford health insurance but don't buy it are being as irresponsible as people who don't buy auto insurance."

Nonsense!

69 posted on 08/28/2007 11:37:40 AM PDT by spunkets ("Freedom is about authority", Rudy Giuliani, gun grabber)
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