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DNC: [Fred]Thompson Continues to Skirt Law as He Fundraises in Twin Cities
The Dallas Examiner ^ | August 27, 2007 | DNC Staff

Posted on 08/28/2007 12:03:15 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

WASHINGTON (Map) - Former Washington lobbyist and candidate for the GOP Presidential nomination Fred Thompson hasn't let accusations that he's violating Federal Elections Commission (FEC) law by running a shadow campaign slow him down. Thompson will be in the Twin Cities today to raise money for his "testing the waters" campaign while experts continue to assert that Thompson is using a loophole in the law to avoid the scrutiny that comes with becoming an official candidate for the GOP nomination.

For someone who is only "testing the waters," Thompson's campaign team has seen a lot of upheaval. Today his communications director, Linda Rozett, is the third campaign staffer to resign from Thompson's "testing the waters" campaign in the last month.

"The only thing Fred Thompson's campaign seems to be testing is the limits of the law," said Democratic National Committee spokeswoman Amaya Smith. "Thompson continues to fundraise, hire and replace staff, and campaign around the country, pretending to be 'testing the waters.' Twin City voters have had enough of the Bush Administration which thinks it's above the law, they don't need four years of more of the same from Fred Thompson."

Experts Believe Thompson Is Operating Beyond the Law

ABC News' Conservative Commentator/Legal Expert Jennifer Rubin: Thompson "Well Beyond" Legal Limits. "Thompson appears to have gone well beyond the limits imposed by federal law." [ABCNews.com, 7/16/07 (http://abcnews.go.com/print?id=3379643)]

Campaign Finance Experts Believe Thompson is Operating at The "Edge" of the Law. "Some campaign finance specialists said Thompson is, at the least, operating at the edge of the law by fund-raising and organizing with few constraints even though it seems clear he's going to run, while the other Republican contenders have to reveal donor information and disclose their personal finances. That has let Thompson avoid playing the money expectations game, in which campaigns are judged in part by the money they raise." [Boston Globe, 7/28/07]

Advocates of Strict Campaign Finance Law Say Thompson Goes Beyond Law. "This is supposed to be a grace period by the [Federal Election Commission] to explore a candidacy, and it certainly appears he has gone beyond that," said Mary Boyle, spokeswoman for Common Cause, which advocates strict enforcement of campaign finance laws. What Thompson "avoids right now is the scrutiny that other candidates get from campaign finance reports. That is part of the vetting process of running for president." [Boston Globe, 7/28/07]

Campaign Legal Center: Thompson "has violated" the Law. According to Paul Ryan, FEC program director and associate legal counsel of the Center, a non- partisan group says "to the extent he has decided he is a candidate but has not registered as a federal campaign committee or disclosed his funds, at the very least, he has violated the spirit, if not the actual letter, of the law." [ABCNews.com, 7/16/07 (http://abcnews.go.com/print?id=3379643)]

Former FEC Top Lawyer Says "Red Flag." Former FEC General Counsel Larry Noble said "I think that's problematic. Clearly it's a red flag," discussing Thompson's disclosure that he had raised $72,000 in contributions designated for the general election. ["The Trail," WashingtonPost.com, 7/31/07 (http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the- trail/2007/07/31/the_noncandidates_fan_dance.html)]

Citizens For Responsibility And Ethics In Washington: Thompson "Abusing" Law. According to Melanie Sloan, executive director of Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, "You don't need to hire a policy director and other operational staff just to test the waters. In addition, he appears to have raised far more money than necessary to prove he has national support ... At this point he's abusing the testing the waters exception to avoid having to disclose his contributors." [ABCNews.com, 7/16/07 (http://abcnews.go.com/print?id=3379643)]

Time Magazine: "Federal election law requires Thompson to declare himself a candidate once he decides to plunge into the water, which -- given that he has signed up more than two dozen staffers, opened two offices and appointed his second and third campaign managers -- he seems to have done." [Time, 8/6/07]

New York Sun: "Flagrant." "The strongest case can be made based on a section of the law that states a candidate has ceased to test the waters -- and has, instead, jumped in -- when "The individual makes or authorizes written or oral statements that refer to him or her as a candidate for a particular office.' On this point, the campaign (mostly the candidate himself) has been flagrant." [New York Sun, 8/21/07]

Newsweek White House Reporter: "Thin Ice." Newsweek White House Correspondent Holly Bailey, reporting on an FEC complaint against Thompson said that he is operating "on thin ice." [MSNBC, 12:45 pm, 8/21/07]

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The democrats are already VERY worried about Fred Thompson, with attack press releases several times a week. Why would that be if he is: "lazy, has no fire in the belly, is sick, can't keep staffers, has a trophy wife and can't make up his mind whether to run?"
1 posted on 08/28/2007 12:03:27 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Thompson is using a loophole in the law to avoid the scrutiny that comes with becoming an official candidate for the GOP nomination.

They are bitching about this while Hillary does any damn thing she pleases to get money? Chris Dodd putting the arm on bankers for contributions while he is the senate banking chairman? This is laughable.

2 posted on 08/28/2007 12:06:46 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: Graybeard58

How much money did he illegally accept from the Chinese government?

Will everything be ok if he just pays back the loan after the election like the Clintons did?


3 posted on 08/28/2007 12:13:13 AM PDT by weegee (NO THIRD TERM. America does not need another unconstitutional Clinton co-presidency.)
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To: Politicalmom; Sturm Ruger

Ping!


4 posted on 08/28/2007 12:13:38 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Cuius testiculos habeas, habeas cardia et cerebellum)
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To: jellybean; girlangler; KoRn; Shortstop7; Lunatic Fringe; Darnright; babygene; pitbully; granite; ...
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Fredipedia: The Definitive Fred Thompson Reference

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5 posted on 08/28/2007 12:15:34 AM PDT by Politicalmom (Of the potential GOP front runners, FT has one of the better records on immigration.- NumbersUSA)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Paid for and authorized by the Democratic National Committee, http://www.democrats.org.

And we are more than happy to run it as an information piece.

Does anyone read the "Examiner"?

6 posted on 08/28/2007 12:16:12 AM PDT by IslandJeff (Joel 2 = 2007)
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To: IslandJeff

I live in Fort Worth and I’d never heard of them until I posted a couple of stories from them.


7 posted on 08/28/2007 12:19:41 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Cuius testiculos habeas, habeas cardia et cerebellum)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“...at the very least, he has violated the spirit, if not the actual letter, of the law.”

You mean like a couple who have already served 2 terms as co-presidents, who are trying for another 4 or 8 years despite constitutional amendment designed to limit the number of terms a president can serve?


8 posted on 08/28/2007 12:22:28 AM PDT by weegee (NO THIRD TERM. America does not need another unconstitutional Clinton co-presidency.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Romulans here to defend Fred against the baby-abortin’, gun-grabbin’, homo-marriage-lovin DNC in 3,2,1,...Oh, that’s right, they have ncthing to say because their candidate supports the same things. Never mind.


9 posted on 08/28/2007 12:28:40 AM PDT by lesser_satan (Fred Thompson '08)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s probably one of those free weeklies full of personal ads, staffed by j-schoolers and itinerant poets.

Sometimes you can get a decent restaurant review out of such pubs, though. In my neck of the woods, the outwardly-liberal “Stranger” has better journalism than the “P-I”, because the Stranger admits its bias upfront, while the Pravda-Izvestia still thinks it’s a mainstream Fourth Estate.


10 posted on 08/28/2007 12:30:06 AM PDT by IslandJeff (Joel 2 = 2007)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Funny how they don’t put this kind of thing out about Ron Paul,Tancredo, Hunter...


11 posted on 08/28/2007 12:35:05 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Atheist pro-lifer)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Awwwwww, we’re just so dang sorry! Not.
12 posted on 08/28/2007 12:36:53 AM PDT by singfreedom ("Victory at all costs,.....for without victory there is no survival." Winston Churchill)
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To: IslandJeff

Perhaps not as an “information” article, but more as a “telling” article?


13 posted on 08/28/2007 12:39:27 AM PDT by singfreedom ("Victory at all costs,.....for without victory there is no survival." Winston Churchill)
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To: Graybeard58
Thompson is using a loophole in the law...

In other words he is COMPLYING with the law.

Cry me a river.

14 posted on 08/28/2007 12:40:13 AM PDT by John Valentine
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To: singfreedom

They had their reasons for running it. And I’m sure their editor would be more than happy to run an obfuscated, twisted justification for it.

They’re really predictable that way. Smarter than the rest of us, you know. If you don’t know, they’d also be glad to explain about the gnashing of teeth and weeping they do every day about running anti-GOP pieces.


15 posted on 08/28/2007 12:44:57 AM PDT by IslandJeff (Joel 2 = 2007)
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To: weegee
Aren’t these the same folks that, ILLEGALLY, collected confidential FBI files on their night table?
16 posted on 08/28/2007 12:45:39 AM PDT by singfreedom ("Victory at all costs,.....for without victory there is no survival." Winston Churchill)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
FRed can’t be violating the law.

He’s a District Attorney.

(At least he plays one on television.)

17 posted on 08/28/2007 2:44:06 AM PDT by Former War Criminal
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To: Politicalmom; Sturm Ruger; All

I found a horoscope on Fred while searching for news on his soon-to-be campaign. I don’t believe in astrology, but FWIW:

Fred Thompson, Taking His Time
In the tradition of Ronald Reagan and Arnold Schwarzenegger, Law and Order actor Fred Thompson is seriously considering running for president* at a time when many Republicans are openly expressing disappointment with their current choices. The former Senator from Tennessee has been meeting with top unaligned strategists and fundraisers, and he’s polled well – just behind Giuliani and McCain even though he’s an undeclared candidate.

Fred Thompson (August 19, 1942; Sheffield, AL; time unknown) was born with his Leo Sun exactly opposite the U.S. Moon, a placement which makes him a natural favorite with the American people. Bill Clinton’s Sun is in the identical degree of Leo (they share the same birth day), and both have a natural sense of showmanship that easily captures popular approval.

Thompson’s Mercury-Mars conjunction in analytical Virgo squares Saturn in intellectual Gemini. This exceptionally tight configuration reflects his legal jousting in both the political arena (during the Watergate hearings) and on TV. Typically, Mars-Saturn squares have trouble with timing, either jumping in too soon (eager Mars) or waiting too long (cautious Saturn). But through the school of hard knocks, one’s problem area can eventually become a strength.

Transiting Pluto has been forming an empowering trine to Thompson’s Sun over the past year, during which time he’s said “I’m seriously considering it, and I’m happy to hear your thoughts and ideas.” Pluto turns direct on September 6 while making its last trine to his Sun. If he decides to run, this politically-charged celestial hit should quickly vault him to the top tier. We should expect a decision no later than early August, when transiting Saturn is conjunct his Sun.

http://www.wstardesigns.com/Horoscopes/horoscope-archives/2007/horoscopes040907.html


18 posted on 08/28/2007 2:44:08 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Cuius testiculos habeas, habeas cardia et cerebellum)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Just because every other candidate announced ridiculously early does ot mean Fred Thompson is violating the law. In any other Presidential election year, Fred Thompson's timeline would be unremarkable. He will announce just after Labor Day, when the voters are paying attention again.

Hillary! moved up her announcement to a very early date, because she has all the money in the World and because she knows that public opinion, positive and negative, is pretty much fixed for her. Her strategy is to spend her opponents into the ground and to allow enough time to pass for negatives to build on her opponents just as they have on her. It is a good strategy, and all the other candidate allowed themselves to be buffaloed into declaring early as well. All but Fred Thompson, of course.

It is a measure of how far the Round-Heeled Media is in the tank for Hillary! that nobody is pointing out that the Labor Day before the election year is the typical time to announce. Everybody is just pretending that this advanced timetable and the ever earlier primaries (NH is in October, I think!) are all designed to aid Hillary!.

The fact that Fred Thompson would not be buffaloed just makes me support him more.

19 posted on 08/28/2007 2:51:54 AM PDT by gridlock (You cannot coexist with somebody who wants you dead.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Will the DNC say anything about this?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1887586/posts

I’m starting to hold my breath now...


20 posted on 08/28/2007 2:57:13 AM PDT by Fresh Wind
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To: Fresh Wind

I’m guessing that you’re blue in the face or passed out by now...


21 posted on 08/28/2007 3:02:56 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Cuius testiculos habeas, habeas cardia et cerebellum)
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To: Politicalmom
"Former Washington lobbyist..."

I thought Fred was a "Former Senator" excuse me! you liberal MSM barf bag .....

Bump! KEEP ON TRUCKIN FRED!


http://FredForPresident.com

http://Vets4Fred.net

22 posted on 08/28/2007 3:07:23 AM PDT by W04Man (I'm Now With Fred http://Vets4Fred.net)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Watch what they do, not what they say. If they were as unbothered by his potential candidacy as they claim to be they would just ignore him. Whistling past the graveyard, pure and simple!
23 posted on 08/28/2007 4:15:26 AM PDT by jwparkerjr (Sigh . . .)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Dear DNC:

I watched for eight years as Bill Clinton did more than "skirt the law" (or even "law the skirt.") I watched him tapdance around, through, beside, and under it, and all the time, you people sniggered at how clever he was, how brilliant his mind worked to narrowly avoid the letter of the law and still get away with murder. (Possibly.) So don't get all "Great Aunt Agnes" on me when a Republican does nothing wrong. Your credibility is shot.

24 posted on 08/28/2007 4:18:42 AM PDT by 50sDad (Angels on asteroids are abducting crop circles!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I think the DNC could have 'elected' a better word than skirt and law for their headline.
25 posted on 08/28/2007 4:19:09 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: IslandJeff

Nice catch. I live in Plano just north of Dallas and I think its one of those free, hip, city living type magazines.


26 posted on 08/28/2007 4:24:09 AM PDT by normy (Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Just remember... NONE OF THIS IS NEW! The left attacked Reagan in the exact same way, with the exact same claims, made by many of the exact same leftist players. History repeats itself... and that is why dims are scared to death!

LLS


27 posted on 08/28/2007 4:35:26 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I thought you were just being sarcastic by listing the author of this story as ‘DNC STAFF’.

But I looked at the link, and sure enough, the DNC is writing news stories for the drive-by-media!

They aren’t even trying to pretend their objective anymore!

Unbelievable !!!

28 posted on 08/28/2007 4:41:41 AM PDT by airborne (Proud to be a conservative! Proud to support Duncan Hunter for President!)
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To: weegee

And not so much as a mention about Hillary’s exploits in California. The only thing that saved her cankles was a judge appointed to the position by her husband.


29 posted on 08/28/2007 5:01:46 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (When O'Reilly comes out from under his desk, tell him to give me a call. Hunter/Thompson in 08.)
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To: weegee
GOP Presidential nomination Fred Thompson hasn't let accusations that he's violating Federal Elections Commission (FEC) law

Accusation does not equal law breaking. I can can accuse anyone of murder, does that make it so?

while experts continue to assert that Thompson is using a loophole in the law

If it's a loophole, it's NOT a law.

30 posted on 08/28/2007 5:17:55 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Former War Criminal

He was a DA in real life long before he ever appered on Law and Order on TV.


31 posted on 08/28/2007 6:39:51 AM PDT by lolhelp
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hes an easy target and/or they couldn’t find anything to whine about Giuliani or Romney this week.


32 posted on 08/28/2007 7:06:27 AM PDT by Democratshavenobrains
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"I love the smell of Fred Fear in the morning"

FEAR THE FRED
33 posted on 08/28/2007 7:13:15 AM PDT by Donald Rumsfeld Fan (NY Times: "fake but accurate")
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To: IslandJeff

I know what you mean. We’ve got one here called CityPages. It’s well to the left of the Star Tribune, but they don’t claimed to be a balanced so I don’t mind. They’ve got awesome restaurant reviews. They used to have a personals section called “The Wild Side”, it was hilarious to read.


34 posted on 08/28/2007 7:37:10 AM PDT by lesser_satan (Fred Thompson '08)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
“ABC News’ Conservative Commentator/Legal Expert Jennifer Rubin: Thompson “Well Beyond” Legal Limits. “Thompson appears to have gone well beyond the limits imposed by federal law.” [ABCNews.com, 7/16/07 (http://abcnews.go.com/print?id=3379643)] “

Oh Goodie, The ABC “Conservative Commentator/Legal Expert Jennifer Rubin” weighs in.

Anyone with a functioning brain knows that at ABC, “Conservative” when used as a term to describe one of “Their” commentators, means someone that thinks a communist system of government should be phased in, rather than all at once.

35 posted on 08/28/2007 10:11:56 AM PDT by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super Walmart for news .)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Today his communications director, Linda Rozett, is the third campaign staffer to resign from Thompson's "testing the waters" campaign in the last month.

Actually it was Lacy who is "making tough decisions that are necessary" and asked Rozett to step down.

Just the first lie on this steamin' pile of them from Screamin' Howie Dean.

36 posted on 08/28/2007 10:12:55 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (PUT AMERICA AHEAD! VOTE FOR FRED!!)
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