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Vail creating barrier against fire
Vail Daily ^ | August 28, 2007 | Edward Stoner

Posted on 08/28/2007 11:06:28 AM PDT by george76

Crews cutting trees in hopes stopping wildfire from jumping between neighborhoods and the forest.

As the color red has grown in the forest... The mountain pine beetle epidemic has hit ...hard.

Whether it’s a lightning strike or a barbecue sparking a blaze, Spaeh says she understands the risk of a destructive forest fire.

....town, county and the U.S. Forest Service are cooperating to create a layer of “defensible space” — a 200-to-300-foot barrier — that aims to stop the spread of a fire, either from the forest into the neighborhood or vice versa.

“This is a really good thing,” ...

Above Intermountain and Matterhorn in West Vail, crews will cut about 8,000 trees, starting in the next couple of weeks.

Experts talk about the dying trees as fuel that’s just waiting to burn.

“From the impact from the pine beetle, eventually there’s going to be a lot of fuel building up there,” said Phil Bowden of the Forest Service. “You want to have space between where that fuel will be building up and the homes so you can defend homes.”

The “defensible space” also creates a staging area where firefighters can set up when they have to fight a blaze...

While the pine-beetle epidemic is an environmental worry in Vail, some of the felled trees will go toward a “green” cause: biomass energy.

The county is selling the logs to Confluence Energy, which has built a wood-pellet mill in Kremmling. The pellets are used in special furnaces that heat homes while emitting relatively little pollution.

(Excerpt) Read more at vaildaily.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: beetleepidemic; defensiblespace; ecoping; environment; epidemic; fires; forestservice; pinebeetle; usfs; vail; wildfires
About time...

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1 posted on 08/28/2007 11:06:32 AM PDT by george76
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To: rellimpank

2 posted on 08/28/2007 11:08:17 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

If only they could create a barrier against liberals. Then they could sell it to Aspen, Crested Butte, Durango, and Paonia.


3 posted on 08/28/2007 11:10:40 AM PDT by whipitgood (Let's burn some MEXICAN flags!)
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To: vikk; forester; Carry_Okie

Working on the box of matches.


4 posted on 08/28/2007 11:14:00 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76
Funny how liberal environmental wackos get some common sense when it is their houses on the line...
5 posted on 08/28/2007 11:16:41 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: george76
Rich liberals get firebreaks while they give money to groups who will sue if you try to build one.

Figures.

6 posted on 08/28/2007 11:16:53 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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To: george76
So cutting trees is OK to protect the part time houses of the limousine liberals, but it is improper to protect the proles?
7 posted on 08/28/2007 11:17:24 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: george76

Pine Beetles means too many trees-—more trees per acre than the average precipitation can sustain, thus dryer trees which are much more vulnerable to the beetles. The Trees they are cutting down now could have been logged all along, preventing the whole problem.

I’ve said it many times because it bears repeating....Environmentalists are BAD for the environment.


8 posted on 08/28/2007 11:20:47 AM PDT by rottndog (Government is a necessary evil, but as with all evils, the less of it the better.)
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To: Carry_Okie; Knitting A Conundrum; Issaquahking; sergeantdave; SunkenCiv

“They want to live in the garden, but they don’t want to tend it.”

...unless it is close to their homes.


9 posted on 08/28/2007 11:21:20 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76
Glad to see the Colorado Forest Service getting off their duffs.

We had an article in our newspaper yesterday quoting them as saying that they've given up fighting them on the southern end of the San Isabel National Forest.

They also said that the only cutting going on is being done by private land owners adjacent to the forest. They got that part right!

It's so bad down here now that they'd have to clear cut the whole forest.

10 posted on 08/28/2007 11:21:25 AM PDT by moondoggie
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To: 2banana; jazusamo

Yup :

Funny how liberal environmental wackos get some common sense when it is their houses on the line...


11 posted on 08/28/2007 11:23:23 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: PAR35
Money talks!

Here in Colorado the state line ends at Colorado Springs.

All the money for just about everything goes up north.

12 posted on 08/28/2007 11:23:33 AM PDT by moondoggie
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To: george76
The mountain pine beetle epidemic has hit ...hard.

Perhaps what is needed is the right pesticide.

13 posted on 08/28/2007 11:26:11 AM PDT by Logophile
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To: george76

Wow!
A tip of the hat to “the powers that be” in Vail.

They’ve managed to manifest a level of sanity that is still in short
supply in Southern California.
(where a stange-bedfellows alliance of envirowackos and homeowners
leave the dead trees up for fuel during the next firestorm)


14 posted on 08/28/2007 11:27:07 AM PDT by VOA
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To: george76; AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...

This is happening because Bush hates white people. /sarc


15 posted on 08/28/2007 11:28:36 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Sunday, August 26, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: 2banana
Funny how liberal environmental wackos get some common sense when
it is their houses on the line...


Apparently the liberal environmental wackos of Vail/Colorado
just aren't the totally committed idealogues that are in Southern
California (that refuse to budge on cutting down the dead trees).

Well, at least that was the case when I exited CA in 2005.
16 posted on 08/28/2007 11:29:30 AM PDT by VOA
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To: george76
some of the felled trees will go toward a “green” cause: biomass energy.

I usually call it firewood myself, but I guess this now helps me speak "Liberal"

17 posted on 08/28/2007 11:30:26 AM PDT by stevio ((NRA))
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To: stevio; colorado tanker; SunkenCiv; Marine_Uncle; traviskicks

Vail is learning liberal speak : biomass energy...versus just firewood.


18 posted on 08/28/2007 11:35:02 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: 2banana; george76
Funny how liberal environmental wackos get some common sense when it is their houses on the line...

Well said and so true! And their lib enviro wacko friends that live in the city will give them a pass on it.

19 posted on 08/28/2007 11:37:05 AM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: moondoggie

The foresters in the forest service used to be able to use science in their decisions. Now the Sierra Club lawyers are often making the final decisions.

We have made some limited progress near towns ( Summit County, Grand County...) because the local politicans realize that it may be their necks at risk. South Lake Tahoe fires scared a few local politicans.

Private land owners generally make better decisions than these lawyers.

While building defensible zones around these towns is good, the forests generally are not healthy.


20 posted on 08/28/2007 11:50:24 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: VOA

If a big fire got going west of town, there is only one way out. The tourists would be going wild to try to escape over the pass.


21 posted on 08/28/2007 11:52:43 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76
the forests generally are not healthy

That's for darn sure.

The wackos didn't want the trees cut, so now they're all going to burn instead.

Tis a shame.

22 posted on 08/28/2007 12:18:29 PM PDT by moondoggie
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To: george76
I didn’t notice any hullabaloo about lynx habitat or environmental assessments. I guess that stuff doesn’t matter when liberals’ seven-figure houses are at stake??
23 posted on 08/28/2007 12:20:45 PM PDT by colorado tanker (I'm unmoderated - just ask Bill O'Reilly)
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To: colorado tanker

Amazing how this works ?


24 posted on 08/28/2007 12:29:56 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

All that habitat for creatures that depend upon standing deadwood ... how could they remove it? Where is the injunction? Oh, wait, Vail, hangout of the beautiful people. never mind.


25 posted on 08/28/2007 12:32:17 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Brian J. Marotta, 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub, (1948-2007) Rest In Peace, our FRiend)
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To: george76
The author's name is Ed Stoner. He-he.
26 posted on 08/28/2007 1:02:59 PM PDT by Wally_Kalbacken (Seldom right but never in doubt)
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