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How hypervisors can defeat GPLv3's "anti-tivoization"
LinuxDevices ^ | Aug. 27, 2007 | Henry Kingman

Posted on 08/28/2007 9:43:45 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat

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To: Golden Eagle
Wow, going through these old threads is really dredging up a lot of lies of yours. Here's another:

Here you say I have a "disdain" for "Intellectual Property" with the meaning that I have a disdain for copyrights, patents, etc. To prove your point, you link to only this text of my earlier post:

"Intellectual Property" is a fiction and the term shouldn't be used. - as stated by antiRepublican
But now we look at the whole post, including the text that you purposefully cut out in order to create your lie:
"Intellectual Property" is a fiction and the term shouldn't be used. It helps perpetuate the confusion we see these days, where people don't know the difference between patent, copyright and trademark. The big difference here is that copyright doesn't require that the work be non-obvious, just original, so of course any original software can be copyrighted.
Oh the light of truth shines upon us when we have context! Further, the post was in response to someone using the term "Intellectual Property" and confusing copyright and patent. In context, I defend copyright and patent, and their different rules and laws, against being obfuscated by the term "Intellectual Property" that you love so much.

When I called you on this you immediately afterwards, you did not retract your false statement about me, instead choosing to go on a completely irrelevant attack that included some of your even earlier lies, like this one:

here's a post from almost 2 years ago when defended Stallman and criticized DRM copyright protection.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1377815/posts?page=35#35

"It is exactly this kind of consumer control and fair use that will be hindered when DRM is embedded into the hardware. That's why it's a bad thing and why Stallman is right in concept..."

Notice the ellipsis at the end? Yeah, that's where you cut out "(stripped of all the extremist hippie talk)." You tried to portray me as a loyal follower and defender, while the text that you purposefully cut out shows I think he is an extremist hippie.

That's two more attempts to libel me, and 2xYAGEL.

121 posted on 08/31/2007 9:08:13 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Golden Eagle

The context shows I believe Microsoft did not infringe on the BSD copyrights, contrary to your lie.

And I see you did not take the opportunity to retract your proven false statement that it was five paragraphs down. You have left what was possibly an honest mistake to turn into a willful lie.

This one goes into the record, too.


122 posted on 08/31/2007 9:11:39 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat

LOL you’re caught again, of course, lying again to cover up another obvious lie made previously. Otherwise you would now admit Microsoft did NOT “lift” code from BSD as you originally claimed, which we know to be false.


123 posted on 08/31/2007 9:24:33 AM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: Golden Eagle
Otherwise you would now admit Microsoft did NOT “lift” code from BSD

For the last time, that whole post that you take out of context argues that Microsoft did not "lift" from (as in the meaning of "steal", or more properly, infringe on the copyright of) BSD.

Your lie, continually supported, stands as proven. Interestingly enough, another definition of "lift" describes exactly what you are doing, as in "to take out of normal setting <lift a word out of context>."

124 posted on 08/31/2007 9:30:38 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat
that whole post that you take out of context argues that Microsoft did not "lift" from (as in the meaning of "steal", or more properly, infringe on the copyright of) BSD

This is another obvious lie made to try to cover up the other lies you've been making about this. The very first part of your post contains the statement:

And Microsoft did "lift" code from BSD.

This was you obviously agreeing with the other poster's bogus claim Microsoft stole code from BSD. The opposite is what you should have said if you truly meant to refute his bogus assertion.

But Microsoft did not "lift" code from BSD.

Whether you simply couldn't bring yourself to do it, or forgot what you originally typed by the time you got to the end of your post, it doesn't matter, you agreed with him initially that Microsoft had indeed "lifted" code from BSD, which is false, and many quit reading your BS at that point. Further indication of your guilt is your admission you're now digging through every dictionary you can find to find some obscure definition for "lift" that might somehow fit your claim that accussing someone of "lifting" something is some how a defense for them.

You could have just admitted it was a mistake, which I might have accepted previously, but of course you'd rather do what you do, lie further, double talk, admit you don't believe it but quote the Holy Bible LOL, and falsely accuse me of being the liar for simply pointing out your bogus claims that Microsoft "lifted" code from BSD, which we know is false.

Thanks again for showing who you are and to what lengths you'll go to in order to spread your lies, it's really quite entertaining watching liberals make up ridiculous lies that only other whacko leftists would ever fall for.

125 posted on 08/31/2007 9:55:39 AM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: Golden Eagle
I notice you still can't bring yourself to quote the whole post, in context, defending Microsoft, or the later posts where I defend Microsoft.

The reason you will not include context is that it proves you are a liar.

You could have just admitted it was a mistake

It wasn't a mistake. I purposely quoted your term because you were wrong about no BSD code having been in Windows, and the other FReeper was wrong about any copyright infringement. It was a lead-in, a connection from the statements of you and him to my argument that Microsoft did include the code, but did not infringe.

Your willful distortion of my position, your lie, remains proven.

As do the other two I linked to.

126 posted on 08/31/2007 10:06:46 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat

Another lie, I linked it from the very start, as it contains at the very top your lie in agreement with the other poster that Microsoft “lifted” the code, which is obviously false. More lies from you now isn’t changing that either.


127 posted on 08/31/2007 10:18:44 AM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: Golden Eagle

Troll filter on. Now I can enjoy intelligent conversation with sane adults instead of being harassed by juvenile delinquents in their mother’s basement who get off on annoying conservatives.

Ahhh, fresh air!


128 posted on 08/31/2007 12:24:37 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat

ROFL, more like continue going around posting lies attacking Christians, Republicans, and true conservatives like you always have.


129 posted on 08/31/2007 3:22:49 PM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: antiRepublicrat

“I wonder how Stallman likes that one.”

He’ll just rewrite the GPL again...he and Eben Moglen will probably be tweaking the license quite a bit to defeat these attempts to nullify v3’s more draconian provisions.

This is a prime example of why I support open source methodology, but not groups like the FSF. They’re all for “freedom”, as long as it’s their vision of freedom you’re adhering to. I think Linus is losing patience with some of the people over at FSF too.


130 posted on 08/31/2007 3:52:33 PM PDT by DesScorp
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To: Dominick
"Apple uses Linux as the back end. "

Ummm, no they don't. They use a hybrid-kernel, a mix of FreeBSD and the Mach microkernel called Darwin.
131 posted on 08/31/2007 3:59:35 PM PDT by DesScorp
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To: DesScorp

Couldn’t agree more with your entire post.


132 posted on 08/31/2007 4:08:30 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: DesScorp
They’re all for “freedom”, as long as it’s their vision of freedom you’re adhering to.

No doubt, use BSD Unix then, open source Unix and a concerted effort to avoid the leftist moonbats at the FSF.

133 posted on 08/31/2007 4:30:41 PM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: antiRepublicrat

“VxWorks takes half the memory of Linux and can work on a less-expensive Broadcom chipset than the previous model. Linksys “passes the cost savings on to users,” Eric says.”

Embedded Linux is an issue that’s been bugging me for awhile. I’m not real thrilled about this effort to make Linux all things to all people. We’re trying to make it usable for cell phones and superclusters alike. Frankly, I think the developers should stick to the roots of the OS...emphasize a PC operating system that’s X86 specific. You can still make great Beowulf clusters without comprimise there, but in the continuing effort make Linux run on everything from watches to mainframes, it’ll end up not being the best on any platform....a software jack of all trades, and master of none.

I’d like to see the embedded Linux people fork a project and bascially create a Unix-like OS specifically for the nature of small embedded systems....another clone. Use Linux as a starting point, but write this system from the ground up specifically for embedded systems, and keep that emphasis.


134 posted on 08/31/2007 4:35:08 PM PDT by DesScorp
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To: Golden Eagle
"No doubt, use BSD Unix then, open source Unix and a concerted effort to avoid the leftist moonbats at the FSF."

I'm playing with FreeBSD quite a bit lately. I'm evaluating it for server use, but I won't be chucking Linux completely. Politics aside, Debian Linux has been a good server platform and I still use it quite a bit. I use a Mac primarily for my desktop now, and it incorporates much of FreeBSD's code anyway. One of the things I love about the Mac is that I've got all of the standard Unix tools now with a pretty candy coating on top, but the bash shell is never far away.

"and a concerted effort to avoid the leftist moonbats at the FSF."

The FSF has become noticeably more militant over the years. The FSF seems to have developed a case of mission creep. A friend of mine who's a developer in a major open source program was talking with me about the Torvalds-GPL 3 controversy, and he surprised me with how militant he sounded (and this is one of the sweetest Christian men I know...a rarity in the software world). When I pointed out that Linus said he's sticking to GPL v.2, this guy pointed out that "hey, all the libraries are going v.3....if he wants to use them, he'll have no choice but to upgrade the license for the kernel". Basically, I took that as a threat to Torvalds and anyone that doesn't like v.3; upgrade or else.

Yeah, BSD is looking better and better.
135 posted on 08/31/2007 4:55:19 PM PDT by DesScorp
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To: DesScorp

Thanks, glad to hear it. As more people’s eyes get opened to the radical intentions of Stallman’s groups hopefully more will switch away. And don’t let Torvalds convince you the Linux kernel team isn’t loaded with copyleftists either, the recent attack against VMware by kernel maintainers such as Chris Helwig should tell you all you need to know.

http://www.virtualization.info/2007/08/top-linux-maintainer-claims-vmware-esx.html


136 posted on 08/31/2007 5:17:41 PM PDT by Golden Eagle
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