Posted on 08/29/2007 4:18:11 AM PDT by Liz
Rudy Giuliani will speak at the sixth anniversary commemoration the of the 9/11 attacks - bringing protests from his critics.........firefighter families charge that he is being allowed to exploit the event for political gain.
(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...
According to archivists who preserve the memories of those killed on 9/11, no avowed presidential candidate has ever spoken at the annual commemorative Ground Zero ceremony. In fact, candidates running for NYC local offices have reverentially suspended campaigning on Sept. 11.
Like it or not he WAS the mayor on that day.
Gee, I wonder if the HelleryCare War Room is behind this??
Pray for W and Our Troops
I agree, this attack is lame. Rudy lost friends that day too.
Weak. Really Weak.
If Rudy had declined the invitation, he’d be castigated for turning his back on the victims & survivors of 9/11.
I can't fathom that being the case. I can't fathom why anyone would trust either of them to handle the war on terror. Some one remind me again why either of them has all this WOT credibility? I must have missed a meeting somewhere, again. When I look at the so-called "top tier" of either party I don't get the idea American's even know we are at war. They certainly don't seem to be looking for a CiC.
True. But he should leave his politics and retinue behind. He would have no class if he refers to his candidacy or asks for support.
Firefighters were the only people killed at WTC? I love and respect you guys and gals but you dont own exclusive rights to that day in history. Like him or not but Rudy was the Mayor and a great leader through it all.
I would give him credit for being a little smarter that to stoop that low.
And he wont... He is going to be reading a portion of the names as he has done in the past and will continue to do for the rest of his life.
This is perhaps the lamest attack FR could put onto Rudy.
Ask any American who the primary figure was on 9-11, and I bet a huge majority would say Rudy. He was the mayor of the city and performed extraordinarily well under pressure that day and in the aftermath. I think he has a right to participate in the events as he has in previous years.
Well the good news is that clearly it isn't ALL of FR (yet anyway). Clearly there still is some intellectual honesty left here as can be seen by some of the comments in this thread.
Agreed. Let's hear what he has to say, first. If he turns it political (Although, when it comes to public figures EVERYTHING is inherently political) then he can be condemned.
With Giuliani having “front runner” status in the GOP by my estimation that makes him a target for attack from all sides.
These “firefighter families” that have cropped up to attack Rudy G. (who I think is too liberal) need to be investigated like those “Jersey girls” that Ann Coulter exposed as frauds and Demohacks.
I think Rudy G. is a target for the Hillary Smear Machine, even though I disagree strongly with Rudy on many issues.
Actually it’s the firefighters association that is trying to exploit the situation for political gain—i.e. to damage an opponent of their chosen candidate.
If Rudy did not participate, the media would go on for days about his “conspicuous absence.”
No firefighters have booed Rudy G, but were booing Her Heinous' speech. I heard it, and it's on tape.
True. Also - don't forget that Rudy was also a victim that day. He was nearly killed and he directly lost many friends. I was a victim that day (having been at work in the city and having to deal with the horror of it all directly rather than watch it on the TV)but luckily everyone I knew who was down by the towers made it out alive. Rudy (and thousands of others) isn't lucky enough to be able to say the same.
You anti-Rudy people are completely over the top.
“Rasmussen Polling found New Yorkers trust Hillary Rodham Clinton more than Giuliani to handle the war on terror”
Lots of Democrats in New York City. And many of them would prefer that the war on terror just go away. Hillary could deliver the illusion that it has.
These firefighters are really lame.
Leave it to the Democrats to decry the “Swiftboating”, while actually doing the very thing they decry.
The Democrats are no more than a bunch of self-interested hypocrites. They talk a good line of bull, and that’s all.
In other words, the usual pond scum infesting our society today.
Leni
But 9/11 is the only thing that put Rudy on the grand stage. Without that, he’s just another liberal womanizing opportunist politician willing to step on the memories of the dead to advance his pathetic political career.
Well, thank you. You ain't so bad yourself....
I agree with you on this one. I'm not a Rudy fan either, but as Mayor, he attended just about every funeral for firefighters killed on 9/11. I bet I could count on one hand the number Hillary and Schumer went to.
Just like all the candidates will avoid New Orleans for Katrina anniversary.
RIGHT!
Rudy was the Mayor on 911 and if he wasn't there he would destroyed by the media and most of America for being uncaring.
Not if he finessed it and explained his absence (heh---I sure am not going to give him ideas on how to do it). Rooty's so eager to flaunt his 9/11 presence for personal and political gain, he can't even think of the good alternatives.
Voters should keep in mind: when Rooty Giuliani campaigns on the Mideast, the WOT and his 9/11 "credentials," Globalist Rooty and his Globalist backers are preparing to profit bigtime off the US government (that's us, the taxpayers).
BACKUP As a PR gimmick, Giuliani recently sold one of the several businesses he is involved in, which revolve around investment banking, global security, and international legal representation.
The Washington Post reported that one of his companies, Giuliani Capital Advisors "was sold for an undisclosed amount as Giuliani was preparing his run for president." The Post article also discloses that Giuliani’s secretive lobbying firm, Giuliani Partners, has made more than $100 million over the last five years and that Giulaini's clients "are required to sign confidentiality agreements, so they do not comment about the work they receive or how much they are paying for it.
Though now running for president, Giuliani refuses to identify his clients, disclose his compensation, or reveal any details about Giuliani Partners. He also declined to be interviewed about the firm."
The paper provided some details, based "on a review of corporate, government and court records, along with scores of interviews with clients and government officials who have interacted with Giuliani Partners."
READ HERE http://breakingnews.nypost.com/dynamic/stories/G/GIULIANIS_BUSINESS?SITE=NYNYP&SECTION=HOME
FR POSTED http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1833794/posts?page=46
Giuliani companies (that we know of) include:
(1) Giuliani Capital Advisors, LLC (AKA Giuliani Partners LLC),
(2) Giuliani Group,
(3) Giuliani-Kerik (re-named Giuliani Security and Safety, after the departure of the tainted ex-Police Commissioner),
(4) Giuliani-Van Essen,
(5) Bracewell & Giuliani LLP law firm (based in Texas with global interests), and
(6) Giuliani Security & Safety, Asia
Attorneys Bracewell & Giuliani's January Closings in Kazakhstan Total US $1.625 Billion
lawfuel.com | February 22, 2007
FR Posted on 02/26/2007 by Jim Robinson
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1791780/posts
ALMATY, Kazakhstan -- LAWFUEL - Law News, US Law Firms -- Bracewell & Giuliani LLP closed three cases in January for a total of US $1.625 billion, acting as international counsel for the offering of corporate debt and solidifying their place as the premier legal authority on Kazakhstani business affairs in the Caspian region. “We continue to thrive and grow in Kazakhstan, mirroring the country itself,” said Greg Vojack, managing partner for the firm's offices in Kazakhstan. “As Kazakhstan transitions into a prosperous free marketplace after the fall of Soviet Russia, its fine-tuned monetary policies are helping the country’s financial sectors grow faster than New York.” ~snip~
Established in 1994, Bracewell's presence in the Republic of Kazakhstan has helped clients capture significant opportunities in the Caspian Region. The firm's energy and finance attorneys provided groundbreaking guidance to create the legal and financial infrastructure in that emerging nation and today actively advise energy and financial companies in the region and the government of Kazakhstan. ~snip~
MORE BACKGROUND Giuliani firm has Venezuela ties
MiamiHerald.com | Thu, Mar. 15, 2007 | BETH REINHARD
Posted on 03/15/2007 3:26:41 AM PDT by Condor 63
The law firm headlined by presidential candidate Rudy Giuliani does business with a company tied to Venezuelan leader Hugo Chávez, who has called President Bush ``the devil.'' Bracewell & Giuliani lobbies on behalf of Texas-based Citgo Petroleum, a wholly owned subsidiary of the Venezuelan oil company controlled by Chávez. The Bush administration said last year that Venezuela was ''not cooperating fully'' with antiterrorism efforts, stopping one step short of grouping the country with state sponsors of terrorism like Iran, Syria and Cuba. Giuliani, the former New York City mayor best known for his leadership after the Sept. 11 terrorism attacks, does not personally lobby for Citgo, though he is a senior partner at the firm and shares in its profits. (Excerpt) Read more at miamiherald.com ...
Bracewell & Giuliani Firm Advises Cintra in First Privatization of Toll Road in Texas
DALLAS (March 1, 2007) Bracewell & Giuliani LLP advised Cintra Concesiones de Infraestructuras de Transporte, S.A., a Spanish transportation company, in its successful bid to develop State Highway 121 into a toll road through Collin and Denton counties.
The award to Cintra, approved by the Texas Transportation Commission, is the first privatization of a Texas toll road. Bracewell is acting as project counsel to Cintra with respect to the 50-year concession from the Texas Department of Transportation. Cintra will pay a $2.1 billion upfront and annual lease payments totaling $700 million. "Cintra was awarded this project because of its proven expertise and competitive proposal," said Thomas O. Moore, partner with Bracewell & Giuliani. "This is the largest transportation deal of 2007. This is one of only five deals in the country."
Three firms have competed for the Comprehensive Development Agreement for State Highway 121 since last summer. The proposals were reviewed and scored based on selection criteria set forth by the Regional Transportation Council, the metropolitan planning agency for the Dallas-Fort Worth area.
This CDA is a public-private partnership that allows the provider to handle all facets of developing the toll road, including completing construction and operating and maintaining the corridor. Cintra, a subsidiary of Grupo Ferrovial specialized in toll roads and car parks, is one of the world's leading private-sector developers of transport infrastructure. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1803916/posts
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Bracewell & Giuliani Firm Advises Grupo Santander in Acquisition of Leading U.S. Auto Finance Company NEW YORK (September 25, 2006) –Bracewell & Giuliani advised Banco Santander Central Hispano, S.A. (SAN.MC, STD.N) (a bank that traded with blacklisted Iranian Bank) in its agreement to acquire 90 percent of the U.S. auto financing company, Drive Financial Services, for approximately US $651 million.
Sorry. As much as I don’t care for Rudy, firefighter’s families don’t have a monopoly on the events of 9-11.
Like it or not he WAS the mayor on that day.
Same view here...and didn’t the Fire Fighters Union just come out in support of well known anti American Senator Chris Dodd?
Weak. Really Weak.
If Rudy had declined the invitation, he’d be castigated for turning his back on the victims & survivors of 9/11.
Yep, damned if he does, damned if he doesn’t.
Better to show up and stand tall.
I still won’t vote for him, but....
“Like it or not he WAS the mayor on that day.”
I agree with you on this one. I’m not a Rudy fan either, but as Mayor, he attended just about every funeral for firefighters killed on 9/11. I bet I could count on one hand the number Hillary and Schumer went to.
Yep.
I think everybody understood you were not supporting Guiliani with your first post.
What you have here has nothing to do with his showing up for the ceremony.
I can’t vote for the guy, but your just repeating what the Clinton war room wants you to repeat, here at FR.
Just my opinion.
Nails it----wish I had said it as succintly----and as well as you did. Thanks.
For Giuliani nothing is right, nothing is wrong.
Giuliani is from the School of Whatever Works for Me.
Don't get me wrong. I am not rooting for Rudy. I just think that the firefighters and, to some extent, the 9-11 families of NY have tried to monopolize what happened that day vis-a-vis the emotional psyche of the U.S. It's tiresome.
Outside of a death in his immediate family, nothing could be more important than honoring those who lost their lives on 9/11. Only a jerk would try to finesse an excuse.
Can you tell us how you found out that his cancer treatment was a piece of cake and no bar to his waging a grueling campaign against Hillary?
Yes he was NYC mayor on 9/11, and has profited from it handsomely.
Most people who serve at that high a level "profit handsomely" when they leave government. I'll bet some of your favorite politicians have done so. Fred Thompson certainly did.
I don't see what is wrong with it, unless it crosses ethical bounds. This is usually a pro-capitalism site.
Lame.
Recall that Viacommie overdubbed the BOOS that Hillary got at the Concert for NYC with CHEERS for the subsquent rebroadcasts on VH-1 and CBS and the DVD release.
Why would he run for Senate in 2006 when he was planning to run for President in 2008?
That said, he was Mayor of New York City on 9/11, and he did take part in the aftermath and even though it has now been muddied by partisan politics, at the time we all thought it was a good part.
He has a right to speak, if he wasn't running nobody would give it a second thought.
Yeah, and he’s been planning on running for President going back to the mid ‘90s, but that doesn’t matter, and neither does it matter that he’s been there every year since, because this is, for all intents and purposes, a campaign year, and he is going to be dragging that into the commemoration, and I can understand why the families don’t want it turned into a media circus.
Only if he won and won decisively.
And not worth it with respect to having his time & energy divided between the Senate & laying the groundwork for a presidential run.
And definitely not worth gambling on small stakes (Senate) and risking a loss when he planned to go All In.
The scumbag exploited 9/11 like John Kerry did invoking his Vietnam service everyday.
Rudy's an opportunistic shill.
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