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Get government out of the bathroom
LATimes ^ | August 29, 2007 | Nick Gillespie

Posted on 08/29/2007 8:05:18 AM PDT by bahblahbah

As we all look forward to more sputtering news conference antics from Sen. Larry Craig, here's hoping that the Idaho politician will eventually draw on traditional Republican principles and stand up for his right to engage in consensual sex in toilet stalls with men. Craig, a critic of the Patriot Act who weakened some of its worst provisions during last year's renewal vote, clearly understands the need to keep the government from snooping willy-nilly on its citizens.

At first flush, the news that the 62-year-old senior senator from the Gem State pleaded guilty Aug. 8 to misdemeanor charges of disorderly conduct in a Minnesota airport men's room is not simply embarrassing but humiliating -- especially to the people of Idaho, who returned him to office for the third time in 2002 with 65% of the vote. According to police reports, Craig tapped his foot near and ran his hand alongside his toilet stall divider, which the arresting officer said he recognized as a come-on for sex. After the cop, who was sitting in the adjacent stall, flashed his badge and made the arrest, Craig compounded his poor judgment by trying to invoke senatorial privilege. He handed the police officer his U.S. Senate business card and intoned, "What do you think of that?" Craig paid almost $600 in fines and fees and was sentenced to a year of probation and 10 days in a county jail (the latter was stayed).

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Idaho
KEYWORDS: classicalliberalism; homosexualagenda; larrycraig; libertarianism; nickgillespie; publicnudity; reason; smallgovernment
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To: Xenalyte

Whoops, I thought he was. I was wrong.


21 posted on 08/29/2007 9:41:00 AM PDT by bahblahbah
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To: bahblahbah

Gillespie mischaracterizes the Foley scandal. The salacious Instant Messages involved a former page.


22 posted on 08/29/2007 9:42:47 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Clinton-Obama '08. Start building your fallout shelters today!)
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To: bahblahbah

So queers think they have a right to sex in taxpayer funded bathrooms? What about my right to use a public toilet without worrying about being approached by some pervert who uses a “wide stance”?


23 posted on 08/29/2007 9:44:11 AM PDT by JZelle
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To: Bryan24
Anybody tries that with me in a bathroom, he won’t be trying that again anytime soon.

I thought I was being wise once upon a time in Vegas. I had a pervert peeping under my stall. Since I was there because the urinals were all full when I entered, and I was in full swing, I just aimed about 30 degrees to port and gave the guy a bath. Much to my dismay later, I was told I had probably made the guys day. Where do these perverts come from and why can't we shoot them?

24 posted on 08/29/2007 9:49:03 AM PDT by IamConservative (I could never be a liar; there's too much to remember.)
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To: bahblahbah

When I went to college I worked for the Honors Program which had its offices/facilites in the library’s basement (no, it wasn’t dark and dreary). The offices had a connecting hallway to go up the stairs to the library itself. The first day after we moved into the basement I had to go down that hallway and lock a connecting door that led to the stairs. There was a men’s room in the hallway, so I opened the door and announced to all that door would be locked in just a few minutes. Didn’t think much about it, until a rather large number of men came streaming out of the bathroom, far more in number then there were stalls in there. And I mean a large number of men given the bathroom’s size. I found out later that the lowest level bathroom in the library was a place gays had chosen as an assignation point. Not that there is anything wrong with that, of course, and, in all other ways, gays are just like straights.


25 posted on 08/29/2007 9:54:49 AM PDT by Robwin
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To: bahblahbah

I was going to say that perhaps if Nick’s child was exposed to some exhibitionist sex act in a public bathroom, or worse yet, molested by some pervert, he might change his mind about local cops trying to prevent the restroom from being used for purposes other than that for which it was designed. After looking at the pix posted, I would guess that no, he wouldn’t mind a little recruiting of his adopted child by some pervert.


26 posted on 08/29/2007 10:00:46 AM PDT by penowa
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To: pallis

You must not only live in the boonies, but you must also be far away from an Interstate Highway too. Back in the ‘70’s, the State Police had the task of trying to keep the bathrooms at the rest stops on many of them free of gay activity.


27 posted on 08/29/2007 10:04:51 AM PDT by penowa
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To: Robwin

“Not that there is anything wrong with that, of course, and, in all other ways, gays are just like straights.”

You forgot to add a sarcasm tag.


28 posted on 08/29/2007 10:09:35 AM PDT by demshateGod (Duncan Hunter for president)
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To: Harvey1973

“Of course, Cary Grant denied he was gay as well.’

Cary Grant’s fourth wife, Dyan Cannon, denies that Cary Grant was a homosexual as well. If being married and having kids is just a beard, condemnation of anyone for being gay without ever acting it out seems no better than witch hunts.


30 posted on 08/29/2007 10:25:03 AM PDT by gcruse (...now I have to feed the dog as if nothing has happened.)
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To: Harvey1973

For those thinking homosexuality is a choice, I guess Grant just chose not to be one anymore, then. LOL


32 posted on 08/29/2007 10:38:28 AM PDT by gcruse (...now I have to feed the dog as if nothing has happened.)
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To: traviskicks

I read this in the morning. I am going to e-mail Nick G over at Reason, he’s gotta lotta splainin to do.

I’m all for personal liberty and freedom and all that nice stuff,...BUT GEEZ THIS IS A PUBLIC RESTROOM. To defend that type of behavior? That’s pretty messed up right there.


33 posted on 08/29/2007 10:38:29 AM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: bahblahbah

Public bathrooms are public places. Larry Craig can suck off anyone he wants in the privacy of his own bathroom at home. I don’t care.


34 posted on 08/29/2007 10:40:51 AM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: bahblahbah
stand up for his right to engage in consensual sex in toilet stalls with men

How about the deviates take it home to their own bathrooms? Heaven help the poor fool who starts tapping his foot in my stall. He will find his leg twisted up like a pretzel and in a cast for some time

35 posted on 08/29/2007 10:41:35 AM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: ClaireSolt

It was more than just random foot tapping.


36 posted on 08/29/2007 10:41:58 AM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: bahblahbah
Fred Savage is married.

Who said he was gay?

37 posted on 08/29/2007 10:45:13 AM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: GraniteStateConservative

I made a mistake. He set off the gaydar...


38 posted on 08/29/2007 10:50:46 AM PDT by bahblahbah
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To: bahblahbah
You can pick these up at Sharper Image...

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39 posted on 08/29/2007 10:54:21 AM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: bahblahbah
Libertarians believe the government has no business policing a bathroom or your bedroom. Its not like Craig exposed himself in public. And there is a legitimate issue of whether its right for a vice cop to make someone offer a sexual proposition. I don't condone Craig's conduct but I do think when the government gets into our personal lives on a level that's inappropriate, we should ask if government has any business being there in the first place.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

40 posted on 08/29/2007 10:58:40 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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