Posted on 08/29/2007 1:47:28 PM PDT by jmaroneps37
Though global Anglican leaders have urged the U.S. church to unequivocally exclude gay bishops by next month, an openly lesbian Episcopal priest is among the five nominees for bishop of the Chicago diocese announced Tuesday.
Rev. Tracey Lind, who followed Chicago Bishop William Persell as dean of Trinity Cathedral in Cleveland, is one of three women named as finalists to replace Persell, who plans to resign after his successor is installed. It is the first slate of candidates in the diocese to include women.
"Since the day last winter when I was asked to make myself available to this nominating process, my discernment prayer has been that God would continue to lead me to serve God's new creation in the church," Lind said in a statement. "I believe that accepting this nomination is what God is asking of me, and I will strive to respond to that call faithfully and with grace."
If Lind wins the election and approval from the larger church, then she would be the second Episcopal bishop living with a same-sex partner.
New Hampshire Bishop V. Gene Robinson was consecrated in 2003, drawing ire from conservative Episcopalians and many members of the worldwide Anglican Communion, of which the Episcopal Church is the American arm. Episcopalian leaders have been searching for ways to maintain an inclusive denomination while preserving unity with conservative factions of the Anglican world who believe homosexuality violates Scripture....
(Excerpt) Read more at chicagotribune.com ...
Take it from a Catholic - there can be as many enemies with in the church as outside of it.
Dollars to donuts this “woman” looks and dresses like a man.
Ugh.
Just used teh google.
Ugh.
Just used teh google.
That’s the best way to destroy something.
I’m a lesbian in a man’s body, leave me alone!
Resisting the Temptation By Tracey Lind
""The great reformed preacher Karl Barth once said that sermons should be written with the Bible in one hand and the newspaper in the other. I have tried to pay homage to that wisdom in my ministry, and sometimes it's really challenging. This coming Sunday is no exception. Like every first Sunday of Lent, the Gospel reading reminds us of Jesus' time in the wilderness immediately following his anointing baptism. “The tempter,” as this manifestation of evil is called in Matthew's Gospel, challenges Jesus to:
Command stones to become loaves of bread;
Throw himself down from the pinnacle of the temple; and
Worship Satan in exchange for all the kingdoms of the world.
Last week as I listened to our president's annual State of the Union Address, I kept thinking about [the lesson of “the tempter” in Matthew 4]. There's a connection here, and it scares me. There are obvious connections to the Gospel, but how do we talk about them without seeming so partisan that our words will fall on deaf ears? Last week as I listened to our president's annual State of the Union Address, I kept thinking about the lectionary reflection I promised to write for The Witness . There's a connection here, and it scares me. There are obvious connections to the Gospel, but how do we talk about them without seeming so partisan that our words will fall on deaf ears? At a dinner party last Saturday night, I asked my guests how they make the connection. It resulted in a thoughtful, lively, provocative, and sometimes heated table conversation.
Now, I could suggest that we interpret our nation's president as the one being tempted.
If this be the case, he is first being tempted to feed us with the promise of more control over our money through tax cuts and Social Security reform – more “bread” for everybody, to borrow from the nomenclature of the Sixties. Second, he is being tempted to dazzle us with his ability to overthrow a dictator and liberate a nation in the name of freedom and democracy through one fell swoop of bombs and artillery. Third, he is being tempted to abandon the gospel of his Episcopal Church affiliation and give into the fundamentalism of the New Religious Right for a combination of personal, political and religious gain.
But I won't go there. That's way too partisan, and furthermore, that makes our president's vocation too closely aligned with the savior of the world.
I could suggest that we as a nation are the ones being tempted.
First, we are being tempted to believe that the stones of tax cuts, the privatization of Social Security, and health savings accounts will yield the harvest of bread for all of our nation's children and ourselves.
Second, we are being tempted to jump off a cliff by believing that the violation of our limited wilderness for the sake of oil and the disregard of our clean skies for industrial and energy production will not damage our fragile environment. We are tempted to believe that the elimination of corporate regulations will promote economic growth; that medical liability reform and information technology will reduce health care costs and make it more accessible to the uninsured. We are tempted to believe that the banning of gay marriage will strengthen the institution of heterosexual marriage, and that the reduction of Ryan White funding will aid the fight against AIDS. We are even tempted to believe that discriminatory acts against immigrants in this country and preemptive military action around the world will reduce terrorism and hatred of the United States.
[W]e are being tempted to yield our moral obligation of humility and respect for difference by believing that our nation has an inalienable right and God-given responsibility to spread the face of democracy, justice, freedom and peace throughout the world according to our own cultural standards, ideals, and worldview. Third, we are being tempted to yield our moral obligation of humility and respect for difference by believing that our nation has an inalienable right and God-given responsibility to spread the face of democracy, justice, freedom and peace throughout the world according to our own cultural standards, ideals, and worldview.
But I'm not going there, either, because I don't believe that the Gospel was written for the nation.
However, since the president himself used religious language (e.g., ”guiding idea,” “blessing,” “sacrifice,” “grateful,” “symbol of trust,” “peace,” and “unity”) and invoked religious symbols (e.g., “stewardship,” “discipline” “great moral success,” “sacred institution,” “culture of life,” and “human dignity”), it is the obligation of the preacher to reclaim the language, symbols and morals of our faith traditions. After all, Jesus resisted the temptations and began his ministry, “bringing good news to the poor, proclaiming release to the captives and recovery of sight to the blind, letting the oppressed go free, and proclaiming the year of God's favor” (Luke 4:18-19). Therefore, I want to suggest that for us preachers, the real temptation is to avoid the controversy and stay in safe waters, or in the words of my dinner guest, Dorothy, “to give in and give up.”
To my brothers and sisters who have the power of access through the responsibility of preaching and the privilege of the pulpit, I say – let us have the courage to preach this coming week with the Bible in one hand and the State of the Union address in the other – come what may and cost what it will.""
...just giving men another reason “to hate church” (aka, just giving
up on going to what becomes a freak show)
This is sooooooo nice....
Precisely my take on most churches. Keep trying to find one that will stay close to the instructional manual for my son, but am always put off by the “fads and fancies” crowd. Looked into Christ Chapel in Alexandria, VA, and got a serious case of willies when I met the guy in charge of the childrens class. Shoosh, this is the church George Washington went to for Christ sake!!
Oh. my! A lesbian AND a Marxist!
• African Methodist Episcopal Church
• The African Methodist Episcopal Zion Church
• Alliance of Baptists
• American Baptist Churches in the USA
• Diocese of the Armenian Church of America
• Christian Church (Disciples of Christ)
• Christian Methodist Episcopal Church
• Church of the Brethren
• The Coptic Orthodox Church in North America
• The Episcopal Church
• Evangelical Lutheran Church in America
• Friends United Meeting
• Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of America
• Hungarian Reformed Church in America
• International Council of Community Churches
• Korean Presbyterian Church in America
• Malankara Orthodox Syrian Church
• Mar Thoma Church
• Moravian Church in America Northern Province and Southern Province
• National Baptist Convention of America
• National Baptist Convention, U.S.A., Inc.
• National Missionary Baptist Convention of America
• Orthodox Church in America
• Patriarchal Parishes of the Russian Orthodox Church in the USA
• Philadelphia Yearly Meeting of the Religious Society of Friends
• Polish National Catholic Church of America
• Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.)
• Progressive National Baptist Convention, Inc.
• Reformed Church in America
• Serbian Orthodox Church in the U.S.A. and Canada
• The Swedenborgian Church
• Syrian Orthodox Church of Antioch
• Ukrainian Orthodox Church of America
• United Church of Christ
• The United Methodist Church •
Lutheran Church Missouri Synod.
“Shoosh, this is the church George Washington went to for Christ sake!!”
And it sure does seem ironic that Gen. George S. Patton was (AFAIK)
a fairly observant Episcopalian.
Too bad he wasn’t around to give a few right-minded motivational talks
to the flock.
Tracy’s got a scorching case of BDS! Why are the devil’s handmaidens always so homely?
BUMP
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Of course it is. If these pervs wanted a church they could have gone off and started one. What they really wnat is two-fold: 1)to dissolve the traditional values of JudeoChristianity and 2) get their hands on the trust fund money, buildings and other assets which endow much of the ECUSA/TEC.
“Am I a bit off here or is the gender wrong when you refer to someone as a lesbian PRIEST.... shouldn’t it be Priestess?”
Good question, I hope we hear from the word experts.
Absolutely - one radical nun was asked why she simply didn’t leave the RC Church -”That’s where the copy machines are!” she answered.
Copy machines and everything else too.
Mrs VS
THE LINK YOU HAVE GIVEN DOES NOT WORK.
what is your source for this:
from http://www.goarch.org the official Greek Orthodox Church website:
The Orthodox Church believes that homosexuality should be treated by religion as a sinful failure. In both cases, correction is called for. Homosexuals should be accorded the confidential medical and psychiatric facilities by which they can be helped to restore themselves to a self-respecting sexual identity that belongs to them by God’s ordinance.
http://www.goarch.org/en/ourfaith/articles/article7101.asp
you don’t list your reasons, but the Greek Orthodox Church is hardly a shill for this homosexual agenda manure. (of course many of their priets are actually married when they take their vows and do have children so their positions may be a bit traditional)
The list is taken from the NCC website. I believe the Antiochian Orthodox Church has left the NCC.
I think the new problem is atheists in the preisthood who view the priesthood as a mere job or an acting gig.
and the reason to avoid this non-binding group is?
seems there are more than a few very conservative groups in that organization.
Has the group officially said all their members MUST accept homosexuals as normal? perform homosexual marriages? accept women as priests?
I can think of one subject that was taboo at that dinner party.
Read their website. It looks like the radical wing of the Democrat party wrote it.
Here is only one thread on FR.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1806520/posts
Google will give you tons of info.
The same argument that the Scriptures and two thousand years of church tradition are outdated and ignorant has paved the way for the acceptance of women priests (priestesses)and homosexuality, and it will be used in the near future to ordain pedophiles and other deviant. For this woman to claim that God has anything to do with her life is absurd. God is not going to bless what he has condemned.
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I guess she’ll have all the altars repanelled with tongue-in-groove.
The Greek Orthodox Church is hardly “left wing”. I wonder how they slipped in since they are very conservative on social issues.
I smell straw and camel. Anyone else?
Or a social reformation agency
When we left the ELCA for the LCMS, the first question I asked of the LCMS pastor was if the LCMS belonged to the NCC. I refuse to ever have one cent of my money fund these traitors.
The NCC has run into funding problems because of people leaving so now George Soros and the Ford Foundation or helping fund them.
This has to be the worst sermon prep I have ever seen. Karl Barth would spit on this rubbish. There is no proper exegisis. She does not cite other bible passages for drawing the conclusions that she does.
This is how Liberal theology works they find a passage and twist it to fit their own BS ideas.
What a preacher should have foremost in their minds when preparing a sermon is the souls of those listening and the heavy weight God places on those who say they are speaking on His behalf.
Mel
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