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Is Larry Craig The Face Of The US Senate? (Dems Inouye, Cantwell, Frank, Robb, Etc Also Discussed
Human Events ^ | 8/29/07 | Ben Shapiro

Posted on 08/29/2007 4:33:58 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist

On Monday, August 27, news services broke the story that Sen. Larry Craig, R-Idaho, pleaded guilty in early August to lewd conduct in an airport restroom...

Craig is hardly the only member of the Senate with a propensity for dropping his pants at inopportune moments...

Sen. Daniel Inouye, D-Hawaii, has allegedly sexually harrased or abused at least 10 women. Sen. Maria Cantwell, D-Wash., reportedly engaged in a sexual affair with an engagd lobbyist, Ron Dotzauer,then gave him a personal loan to help him with his subsequent divorce and threw cash his way...

Gerry Studds (re-elected six times after having sex with a male congressional page), Barney Frank (re-elected eight times after his gay lover ran a male escort ring out of his apartment), Mel Reynolds (re-elected despite facing an indictment for sexual assault and criminal sexual abuse of a 16-year-old campaign worker), Sen. Charles Robb (re-elected despite credible sex scandal allegations), and Gus Savage (re-elected despite fondling a Peace Corps volunteer).

(Excerpt) Read more at humanevents.com ...


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Other Dems are also talked about.

Perhaps, instead, there are certain Dems that are the face of the U.S. Senate.

Democrats like to point the finger at Republicans who they say fell from family values after running on it.

Isn't there something about pulling the beam from your own eye before trying to pull the mote from someone elses eye? I would say that the Democrats have a beam to pull from their own eye first.

But they respond by saying that they don't run on family values. Bull. One in particular said that he was "...raised to believe in...family values..." Who? Bill Clinton. Link below.

If Democrats will not say anything about Bill Clinton they they are hypocrites if they blast Craig or the Republican party for falls from family values.

BTW, it seems that there is an attempt being made to try and demoralize/keep values-driven Christians from coming to the polls.

Christians should remember that Larry Craig does not represent the Republican Party.

Yet libs and the MSM will probably try to smear the entire Republican Party with this and any other potential things like this in the future.

1 posted on 08/29/2007 4:34:02 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: All

Link:

Announcement Speech
Old State House, Little Rock, Arkansas
October 3, 1991

http://www.4president.org/speeches/billclinton1992announcement.htm


2 posted on 08/29/2007 4:36:44 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist (Keep working! Welfare cases and their liberal enablers are counting on you!)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
As I recall, Bill Clinton specifically ran on family values.

Putting aside the usual politics, our whole society is awash in sex and corruption. The Clinton defense was "everyone lies about sex." What more needs to be said? Of course a large portion of the Congress is corrupt and immoral. Politicians are liars by nature.

3 posted on 08/29/2007 4:37:55 PM PDT by Williams
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Yet libs and the MSM will probably try to smear the entire Republican Party

Not just them.

I've already seen countless comments on FR saying the whole GOP is corrupt.

4 posted on 08/29/2007 4:38:16 PM PDT by what's up
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Larry Craig should resign.


5 posted on 08/29/2007 4:40:17 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Illegal aliens commit crimes that Americans won't commit)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Republicans turn on their own "perverts". Conservatives usually preach, and practice, morality. And, enforce it.

Demoncrats, on the other hand, are clearly the immorality party. The party of hypocrisy, opportunism and hegemony.

No clearer difference can be seen than the results of political scandals affecting members of the two major parties. Republicans cast out their own sinners; Demoncrats embrace theirs.

6 posted on 08/29/2007 4:41:39 PM PDT by Thumper1960 (Unleash the Dogs of War as a Minority, or perish as a party.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Given the amount of self-idenitified Republicans on freerepublic threads about Larry Craig who rant about homosexuals and yet display a curious, curious knowledge and fascination about their practices and pick up techniques and such, the Republicans could have a big closeted gay “problem.”


7 posted on 08/29/2007 4:42:45 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Clintonfatigued

Should Inouye, Cantwell and Frank also resign?


8 posted on 08/29/2007 4:43:30 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist (Keep working! Welfare cases and their liberal enablers are counting on you!)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
The republicans are not nimble enough to call the dems out.

The dems are NOT criticizing what Larry Craig did. By complaining about him being a "hypocrite" they are acknowledging that THEY are the party of sex in public bathrooms. They are acknowledging that the republican party espouses morals. Otherwise, the charge of "hypocrisy" against republicans would be meaningless.

The only way not to be a "hypocrite" if caught in immoral behavior, is to have been an immoral Godless pervert in the first place, and to have been perfectly honest about it. In other words, a democrat (except for the perfectly honest part).

9 posted on 08/29/2007 4:43:36 PM PDT by Williams
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To: Shermy

If that is the case (which it isn’t here) then perhaps Dems on other boards who talk about homosexuals, their issues and embrace them are coming out of the closet.


10 posted on 08/29/2007 4:45:51 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist (Keep working! Welfare cases and their liberal enablers are counting on you!)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

It’s not an issue of “should” they have resigned - republicans failed to do anything about it. Showing how spineless they are - afraid to criticize democrat perverts, and afraid to defend their own.


11 posted on 08/29/2007 4:46:08 PM PDT by Williams
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To: Shermy

BTW, don’t engage in Ad Hominem attacks againt FR or posters here. Discuss the issues at hand.


12 posted on 08/29/2007 4:47:18 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist (Keep working! Welfare cases and their liberal enablers are counting on you!)
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To: Williams; All

You missed the point.

If you say that Larry Craig should resign, then you must also say that Frank, Cantwell, and Inouye must resign, too.


13 posted on 08/29/2007 4:50:21 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist (Keep working! Welfare cases and their liberal enablers are counting on you!)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

the caligulazation of the senate continues...


14 posted on 08/29/2007 4:52:34 PM PDT by JohnLongIsland
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To: Thumper1960
Republicans cast out their own sinners; Democrats embrace theirs.

And Jesus said he who is without sin, cast the first stone. Democrats don't embrace their sinners, they excuse them. Republicans don't cast out their sinners, they throw them over board lest they get tarred with the same brush. I think, between the two, at least I can admire the Dems' loyalty and courage in not abandoning or kicking their own when they are down.

15 posted on 08/29/2007 4:55:40 PM PDT by Wolfstar (If ye break faith with us who die, We shall not sleep, though poppies grow in Flanders fields.)
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To: Williams

Yes, and don’t you remember the photo opp of Bill Clinton walking down the church stairs after a Sunday service with the huge 23pound Bible? In reality, I think that Bible was as useful to Bill as teats on a boar.


16 posted on 08/29/2007 4:59:17 PM PDT by reaganbooster
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To: Wolfstar

Jesus: He who is without sin, cast the first stone.

Why then do Dems cast stones at Reps who they say fell from family values? Why do they hypocritically then turn around and ignore that Bill Clinton apparently fell from family values?

And why have Dems not first pulled the beam from their own eye?


17 posted on 08/29/2007 4:59:55 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist (Keep working! Welfare cases and their liberal enablers are counting on you!)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
“Christians should remember that Larry Craig does not represent the Republican Party.”

err, so he isn’t really a Republican Senator? LOL!


And one need not be a Christian to view a man soliciting sex in a public bathroom as repugnant.

I am not familiar with his voting record, is he a RINO?
Political affiliations aside, he is unfit to serve as a US Senator.
And so is Kennedy, Clinton, Murtha, Kerry etc.

Since there seems to be no mechanism to impeach Senators,
term limits appear to be the only rational way to effectively deal with dishonorable politicians. IMHO.

18 posted on 08/29/2007 5:00:31 PM PDT by sarasmom (Hunter-Thompson 2008 . It satisfies the senses on multidimensional levels .)
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To: Clintonfatigued
Is there a possibility he could change parties?
19 posted on 08/29/2007 5:00:53 PM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: what's up
“I’ve already seen countless comments on FR saying the whole GOP is corrupt”

If it walks like a duck.

Both parties are corrupt beyond belief.

This government is no longer for and by the people.

This is a government for and by the corporate/foreign lobbyist. corruption, greed, power hungry.

20 posted on 08/29/2007 5:03:56 PM PDT by servantboy777
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To: sarasmom

You used a straw man by saying “so he isn’t really a Republican Senator?”

I said he does not represent the Republican PARTY. I did not say he wasn’t a Republican. err, Duh. LOL!


21 posted on 08/29/2007 5:04:17 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist (Keep working! Welfare cases and their liberal enablers are counting on you!)
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To: Dixie Yooper

If Craig became a Democrat the cries of “hypocrite” would change to “welcome home.”


22 posted on 08/29/2007 5:05:22 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist (Keep working! Welfare cases and their liberal enablers are counting on you!)
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To: Williams

The only difference is that the Dem Party doesn’t seem to even attempt to try and have anything resembling decency and decent values.


23 posted on 08/29/2007 5:07:03 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist (Keep working! Welfare cases and their liberal enablers are counting on you!)
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To: sarasmom
I am not familiar with his voting record, is he a RINO?

He actually has a 93 lifetime rating from the ACU which is quite high.

But lately, if I am not mistaken, he voted for the Shamnesty bill.

24 posted on 08/29/2007 5:08:17 PM PDT by technomage (The true Conservative politician will win every time.)
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To: servantboy777

I would say that the Dems, though, seem to be trying to take the U.S. on the track to no Christian values whatsoever.


25 posted on 08/29/2007 5:08:30 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist (Keep working! Welfare cases and their liberal enablers are counting on you!)
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To: Shermy
Out of line. We do not engage in targeting of FR members.
26 posted on 08/29/2007 5:12:13 PM PDT by gidget7 ( Vote for the Arsenal of Democracy, because America RUNS on Duncan!)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Why don’t he just switch to the Democrat Party-— then it would all be OK (With Frank and Studds they could be a threesome


27 posted on 08/29/2007 5:12:30 PM PDT by tsali
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Ted Kennedy, (D-Mass), elected countless times after murdering a young campaign worker in a drunken auto accident then leaving the scene and falsifying evidence.


28 posted on 08/29/2007 5:13:37 PM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Yes, of course but I didn’t miss the point. The republicans did NOTHING to make those 3 resign, yet they are calling for Craig to resign. If it’s inappropriate to have lying perverted crooks in Congress, why are the republicans so “noble” as to inflict the democrat ones upon us? John McCain has no right to call on Craig to resign just because he’s a republican. These people have no concern for the public good, it is all inside baseball to them.


29 posted on 08/29/2007 5:17:08 PM PDT by Williams
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To: Wolfstar

nothing wrong with holding folks accountable for their actions, especially if their actions reflect poorly on others


30 posted on 08/29/2007 5:17:46 PM PDT by AprilfromTexas
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Yes, they should have.


31 posted on 08/29/2007 5:18:03 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Illegal aliens commit crimes that Americans won't commit)
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To: gidget7

Oh, please. I know what I’m talking about. I was the poster of two of the original Larry Craig threads and to my misfortune my cachet is full of proof of these sad folks.


32 posted on 08/29/2007 5:18:06 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: IronJack

Bingo. But John McCain has no problem working with Ted K. So then is the Craig resignation call truly for the public good?


33 posted on 08/29/2007 5:18:35 PM PDT by Williams
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To: Williams

OK. I’m not going to defend what Craig did. But he didn’t use his power to take advantage of underlings in his office or in his employ. He also didn’t sic thugs on people who accused him of the misdeeds and threaten their pets, or families, or lives. He didn’t steal $ from his constituents to pay for his trysts. He didn’t do this in the senate cloakroom. As far as I know his behavior was consensual. Not even close to what the democrats have actually DONE. Even Barney Frank has defended him. And he called Clinton “Wepwehensible”


34 posted on 08/29/2007 5:37:23 PM PDT by boop (Trunk Monkey. Is there anything he can't do?)
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To: servantboy777
“I’ve already seen countless comments on FR saying the whole GOP is corrupt” If it walks like a duck. Both parties are corrupt beyond belief. This government is no longer for and by the people. This is a government for and by the corporate/foreign lobbyist. corruption, greed, power hungry."

I agree. Plus, I fully believe that it is going to get worse before (or even "IF") it ever gets better. I am convinced that more in both parties are going to "come out" of whatever closet they're in. In the liberal-socialist-elite-left believe it's hip to be deviant and corrupt. They thumb their nose at the public. The other side has lost most of it's true conservative roots, it's character and it's integrity, so they will start to embrace whatever deviancy they're into.

The formerly conservative "Red" states are now voting in "Blue" people. In my state Virginia: Jim Web. In Pennsylvania: Bob Casey. Missouri: McCaskill. The list goes on. These are just states who voted out true conservatives.

35 posted on 08/29/2007 5:41:49 PM PDT by KriegerGeist (Lifetime member of the "Christian-Radical-Right-Wing-Kook-Factor")
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To: sarasmom

“And one need not be a Christian to view a man soliciting sex in a public bathroom as repugnant.

I am not familiar with his voting record, is he a RINO?
Political affiliations aside, he is unfit to serve as a US Senator.
And so is Kennedy, Clinton, Murtha, Kerry etc.”

It’s sad that common sense posts like this are the minority. A repugnant act is repugnant regardless of party, and seeing people trying to make partisan excuses for it is sickening. That’s what the Clintonistas did back in the day. I don’t like seeing a lot of whining about how Barney Frank is still in Congress after what he did, when all Craig did was bla bla bla... Thank goodness the Republican party has enough morality to DO SOMETHING about their problems instead of ignoring them. It’s what seperates us from the Democrats, and is a very great asset.


36 posted on 08/29/2007 5:48:05 PM PDT by COgamer
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To: COgamer

In a way I am glad this came out now. Because why didn’t this come out when it happened? Was somebody blackmailing Sen. Craig? Was someone in the news media sitting on this story, to bring it out during next year’s election, to make Larry Craig the Mark Foley of 2008?


37 posted on 08/29/2007 6:01:31 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Shermy

I’ll tell ya, I never thought I would hear so much about the “wide stance” of a man in a public restroom. I never thought I would hear news reports of differing stances used to take care of nature’s calls. Geez............


38 posted on 08/29/2007 6:03:05 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
LOL!
I also don’t “represent” the Republican Party, since I am merely a registered Republican voter, and hold no elected office.
I have seriously entertained the thought of changing my registered party affiliation to Independent.
Fewer and fewer candidates running for elected government office as Republicans seem to actually BE Republicans.
So, from where I stand, Craig does officially represent the current Republican Party.
The “Republican Party” leadership must publicly condemn him as unfit for elected office as a Republican, and kick him out of the “Party” or be damned for supporting a man who freely admitted guilt to a crime no Republican voter will tolerate from an elected government official.
The “Big Tent”supposedly still has some boundaries that differentuates Republicans from Democrats.
39 posted on 08/29/2007 6:05:02 PM PDT by sarasmom (Hunter-Thompson 2008 . It satisfies the senses on multidimensional levels .)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Public figures should not be soliciting homosexual sex in men’s rooms. All of the possible things that can result are negative.


40 posted on 08/29/2007 6:14:37 PM PDT by popdonnelly (Our first responsibility is to keep the power of the Presidency out of the hands of the Clintons.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
I’d say that the congress as a whole is doing the same thing.

Remember the Islamic Imam’s opening prayers, then the Hindu priest opening the session with prayers.

Very little objection by the body on either side. There was one lone voice yelling out, “There shall be no other G_d before thee, forgive us Lord Jesus.”

But the majority on both sides remained silent. Just one example.

41 posted on 08/29/2007 6:21:40 PM PDT by servantboy777
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To: Dilbert San Diego

LOL. I think the funniest scene to imagine is when the officer flashed his ID under the stall divider. The look that must have been on Craig’s face!


42 posted on 08/29/2007 6:23:28 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Geist Krieger
We had the hammer in Texas, (Tom Delay). I thought he was a good conservative and straighter than an arrow.

Wroooooooonnnnnnng! He steps aside in financial scandal.

Slap on the wrist and away he goes. The important thing was that he stepped aside before being indicted. He knew it was coming.

By stepping aside, regardless if he’s convicted of any wrongdoing, Delay will get a lifetime pension and benefits that far exceeds anything you or I could imagine.

Even if convicted of anything.

43 posted on 08/29/2007 6:28:04 PM PDT by servantboy777
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To: servantboy777
This government is no longer for and by the people.

Nonsense...the people have the opportunity to vote at least every 2 years.

It's up to them...they get who they put up.

44 posted on 08/29/2007 6:39:46 PM PDT by what's up
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To: Shermy
Given the amount of self-idenitified Republicans on freerepublic threads about Larry Craig who rant about homosexuals and yet display a curious, curious knowledge and fascination about their practices and pick up techniques and such, the Republicans could have a big closeted gay “problem.”

The term I recall from years back was BIG TENT. I think maybe we conservatives have found ourselves at the circus and what we have elected are a bunch of clowns. The liberals are who they are and do not even blush at their activities. Here we conservatives have people like John McCain telling US that he will clean up dirty money with his own reelection protection racket. I personally, no matter how repulsive Craig's behavior was/is am not finding it more repulsive than the activities of so many others that wear a conservative mask. Note I did not say 'compassionate conservative'.

Yes Craig is a shame and embarrassment to conservatism not just for shoe or foot tapping or whatever the signal being used, but that he used the standard of conservatism to get himself in that restroom in the first place.

45 posted on 08/29/2007 6:43:32 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
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Well I guess it would be nice

If I could touch your body

I know not everybody

Has got a body like you

But I've got to think twice

Before I give my heart away

And I know all the games you play

Because I play them too

46 posted on 08/29/2007 6:54:44 PM PDT by Popocatapetl
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To: Wolfstar
Demoncrats embrace them because those "sinners" are the heart and soul, the very essence of the Demoncrat Party.

Conservatives, at least, have the consistency of some measure of morality to cast out those who violate cultural norms.

Conservatives would rather punish and imprison the pedophile. The Demoncrat would ask where the pedophile found the hot dude/chick.

47 posted on 08/29/2007 7:29:07 PM PDT by Thumper1960 (Unleash the Dogs of War as a Minority, or perish as a party.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
It is about time that congress does a good house cleaning if they want the respect of the people in this country. Both parties appear to be the home of many social misfits. Isn’t it about time?
48 posted on 08/29/2007 7:34:09 PM PDT by ANGGAPO (LayteGulfBeachClub)
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To: Shermy

Are you cruising for a pice of ass.
You are such a tool.


49 posted on 08/29/2007 7:42:12 PM PDT by Holicheese (1-21-09 Hillary starts to destroy America!)
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To: Wolfstar

“....at least I can admire the Dems’ loyalty and courage in not abandoning or kicking their own when they are down.”

That thinking is twisted.

It’s not so much loyalty as it is a pack mentality. The same thing is evident in unions where even the most incompetent and lazy workers are protected.

And it’s not courage, it’s being brazen and ballsy. It’s the same ‘courage’ that a thug has when he attacks an old lady knowing that she can’t defend herself. The GOP is the old lady in the world of politics.

Loyalty and courage are the traits demonstrated daily by our troops in war zones. You cheapen the words when you apply them to the democrat party.


50 posted on 08/29/2007 8:06:55 PM PDT by Harvey105
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