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'Lost tribe of Israel' arrives in Jewish state
WorldNet Daily ^ | August 30, 2007 | Aaron Klein

Posted on 08/30/2007 9:53:38 AM PDT by NYer

TEL AVIV – One-hundred-seventy-four people from a group of thousands in India that believes it is one of the 10 "lost tribes" of Israel landed here this week, fulfilling for many a life-long dream of returning to what they consider their homeland.

Shavei Israel, a Jerusalem-based organization led by American Michael Freund, hopes to bring to the Jewish state the remaining 7,000 Indian citizens who believe they are the Bnei Menashe, the descendants of Manasseh, one of biblical patriarch Joseph's two sons and a grandson of Jacob.

The tribe lives in the two Indian states of Mizoram and Manipur, to which they claim to have been exiled from Israel more than 2,700 years ago by the Assyrian empire.

"I truly believe this is a miracle of immense historical and even biblical significance," Freund told WND as the group of 174 arrived here earlier this week.

"Just as the prophets foretold so long ago, the lost tribes of Israel are being brought back from the exile," said Freund, who previously served as deputy communications director under former Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

Another planeload of 57 Bnei Menashe is slated to touch down in Israel tomorrow.

The group, which has preserved ancient Jewish customs and rituals, has been trying the past 50 years to return to Israel.

Over the last decade, Freund's Shavei Israel, at times working with other organizations, brought about 1,200 Bnei Menashe members to the Jewish state. Many settled in Jerusalem, Judea and Samaria. About 80 lived in Gaza's slate of Jewish communities, which were evacuated by the Israeli government in 2005.

The original batches of Bnei Menashe to arrive here were brought to Israel as tourists in an agreement with Israel's Interior Ministry.

(Excerpt) Read more at worldnetdaily.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Israel; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: bneimenashe; india; israel; jews; losttribes; manasseh
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Members of 'lost tribe of Israel' arrive at Ben Gurion airport in Tel Aviv (Courtesy Shavei Israel)
1 posted on 08/30/2007 9:53:40 AM PDT by NYer
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To: Alouette; SJackson; Convert from ECUSA

Ping!


2 posted on 08/30/2007 9:54:14 AM PDT by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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To: NYer

Oh Geez!!!! I thought it might have been the Nephites!!! Sorry, my bad.


3 posted on 08/30/2007 9:56:18 AM PDT by nesnah
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To: NYer

Saw an excellent documentary on the Quest for the Lost Tribes. One of the last images they leave you with is a Menasse standing in his army gear praying at the wall. Every affecting.


4 posted on 08/30/2007 10:00:40 AM PDT by timsbella (Mark Steyn for Prime Minister of Canada! (Steve's won my vote in the meantime))
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To: nesnah

Even in LDS scripture it is understood that the lost tribes were scattered by Assyria(about 721 BC) before the BoM starts (600 BC), therefore they would not be Nephites. LDS members who believe the lost tribes are Nephites would be mistaken.


5 posted on 08/30/2007 10:01:35 AM PDT by Domandred (Eagles soar, but unfortunately weasels never get sucked into jet engines)
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To: NYer
Dr. Gene Scott used to believe the Pilgrims who settled in Plymouth were one of the lost tribes...
6 posted on 08/30/2007 10:20:25 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: nesnah
I thought it might have been the Nephites!!!

Umm... They were all destroyed. Guess you didn't read the book, eh?

7 posted on 08/30/2007 10:23:59 AM PDT by TChris (Has anyone under Mitt Romney's leadership ever been worse off because he is Mormon?)
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To: NYer

I believe the B’nei Menashe were mostly Christians who undergo formal conversion to Judaism before coming to Israel.


8 posted on 08/30/2007 10:26:37 AM PDT by hlmencken3 (Originalist on the the 'general welfare' clause? No? NOT an originalist!)
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To: Domandred

I thought is was the lost 12 tribes not 10. One for each of the apostles.


9 posted on 08/30/2007 10:31:31 AM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: edcoil
I thought is was the lost 12 tribes not 10. One for each of the apostles.

Really? There were 12 tribes, but only 10 were exiled - how else would there have been any continuity of the Jewish religion and culture if they were ALL lost?

And what relationship could they possibly have with the apostles of 7 centuries in the future?

No disrespect, but please read a bit more.

10 posted on 08/30/2007 10:37:59 AM PDT by Ancesthntr
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To: NYer

do they look Semetic featured?

i can’t tell from that little pic

you could tell with manof the Falashas

i would really like to see more about are these little Hebrew tribes wandered off to the past 2-5OOO years


11 posted on 08/30/2007 10:40:03 AM PDT by wardaddy (America.....the beginning of the end as we know it probably)
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To: wardaddy

Those “Semitic features” are a myth. Look at the Jews of Israel today. Almost all races are in there.


12 posted on 08/30/2007 10:42:23 AM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: Ancesthntr

I guess that makes sense. It’s why I asked your id since you seem to have the most informed replies.


13 posted on 08/30/2007 10:42:34 AM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: NYer

Wow, this gives me goose bumps.


14 posted on 08/30/2007 10:46:35 AM PDT by Dustbunny (The BIBLE - Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth)
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; Lent; GregB; ..
If you'd like to be on this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.

High volume. Articles on Israel can also be found by clicking on the Topic or Keyword Israel, WOT

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15 posted on 08/30/2007 10:47:36 AM PDT by SJackson (isolationism never was, never will be acceptable response to[expansionist] tyrannical governments)
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To: edcoil

You’ll find lots of FReepers with informed replies (though few of us, myself specifically included, have even close to 100% informed replies).


16 posted on 08/30/2007 10:47:41 AM PDT by Ancesthntr
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To: Domandred

“Even in LDS scripture it is understood that the lost tribes were scattered by Assyria(about 721 BC) before the BoM starts (600 BC), therefore they would not be Nephites. LDS members who believe the lost tribes are Nephites would be mistaken.”

If a modern-day Assyrian Empire were to invade and carry off the nation of Mexico, do you believe all Mexicans would be gone? How about those living up here in the U.S.? So far as I know, there was no formal fence between the Northern Kingdom of Israel and the Southern Kingdom of Judah. Given the terrible conditions of the Northern Kingdom for generations before 731 BC, would it be surprising that some of the Northerners emigrated to the Southern Kingdom? Therefore, probably not every member of the Ten Lost Tribes was scattered into the wilderness.


17 posted on 08/30/2007 10:48:26 AM PDT by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things.)
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To: NYer

Interesting, and plausible, but if their ancestors have been Jews for thousands of years, why do they need to be “converted”?


18 posted on 08/30/2007 10:49:30 AM PDT by zot
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To: edcoil

There are 12 tribes, one for each of the sons of Jacob. If I remember correctly Judah and Benjamin are the two non-lost tribes (currently the nation of Israel) while the other 10 are “lost” as in not gathered yet unto Jerusalem.

Now depending on your definition of “lost” they either are truly lost and we don’t know who or where they are (the tribe itself may not even know), or we do know them but they just haven’t been gathered yet for one reason or another. I personally subscribe to both, depending on the tribe. That is my personal opinion and should not be construed as anything taught by any religion.


19 posted on 08/30/2007 10:50:21 AM PDT by Domandred (Eagles soar, but unfortunately weasels never get sucked into jet engines)
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To: NYer

Bobby Brown, Whitney & Madonna??????????


20 posted on 08/30/2007 10:50:21 AM PDT by FES0844 (FES0844)
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To: tutstar; Nightshift

ping....


21 posted on 08/30/2007 10:54:36 AM PDT by tutstar (Baptist Ping list - freepmail me to get on or off.)
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To: Domandred

There were actually 13 tribes, not 12, since Joseph split into 2 tribes: Menassah and Ephraim, and the tribe of Levi exists to this very day.


22 posted on 08/30/2007 10:55:17 AM PDT by Alouette (Vicious Babushka)
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To: wardaddy

http://www.moshiach.com/features/tribes/

“This feature is based on “Nihon-Yudaya, Huuin no Kodaishi” by Rabbi Marvin Tokayer, translated from Japanese by Arimasa Kubo.

“Following his ordination, Rabbi Tokayer served as a U.S. Air Force Chaplain in Japan, and upon his discharge from the military, returned to Tokyo to serve for many years as rabbi of the Jewish Community of Japan as well as Vice President and Director of Culture, Religion and Education for the Jewish communities of the Far East.”

The link has a collection of in-depth essays about purported ‘lost tribes’ scattered from China to Ecuador.


23 posted on 08/30/2007 10:56:02 AM PDT by hlmencken3 (Originalist on the the 'general welfare' clause? No? NOT an originalist!)
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To: NYer


"I dunno. They told me to get lost."

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24 posted on 08/30/2007 10:57:16 AM PDT by OESY
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To: wardaddy

Don’t know about ‘Semitic’ features. The Ashkenazim of Northern Europe and the Sephardim of Southern Europe and the Middle East don’t look much alike, but both groups are Jewish.


25 posted on 08/30/2007 10:59:38 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: NYer

I get a chuckle from the term “lost tribes” after all who lost them? Certainly they are not “lost” to God. He knows where each of them are at right at this very moment. And He is making ready the 12,000 of each tribe that He will call to evangelize at the end of days. Revelations 7:4-8


26 posted on 08/30/2007 11:00:01 AM PDT by JesusBmyGod (1 Corinthians 2:5, Jeremiah 29:11-13)
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To: OESY
That hideous creature kinda reminds me of Xerxes in the movie 300.
27 posted on 08/30/2007 11:01:03 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Alouette

Yea I know about the 13th tribe of Levi as well. I just didn’t want to confuse the issue by adding that in. When the tribes are talked about it is generally the 12 tribes.


28 posted on 08/30/2007 11:02:38 AM PDT by Domandred (Eagles soar, but unfortunately weasels never get sucked into jet engines)
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To: zot

http://www.moshiach.com/features/tribes/burma.php

...According to the history which they state, they were exiled to Assyria in 722 BCE with other Tribes of Israel. Later, Assyria was conquered by Babylon (607 BCE), which later was conquered by Persia (457 BCE), which later was conquered by Greece of Alexander the Great (331 BCE), when the people of Menashe were deported from Persia to Afghanistan and other places.

There they became shepherds and idol worshipers. With the conquest of Islam, they were forced to convert to Islam. Because they speaking Hebrew they were called the Semitic speakers...

...From Afghanistan their migration continued eastward until they reached the area of the Tibetan-Chinese border. From there they continued into China following the Wei River until they reach the central China. They settled there at about 231 BCE.

But the Chinese were cruel to them and enslaved them. Some of them escaped and lived in caves in the mountainous areas called Shinlung, which became another name for the tribe of Menashe. They are also called the cave people or the mountain people...

Later they were banished from their cave area and went west through Thailand and eventually reached the area in Myanmar.

There they wandered along the river until they reached Mandaley. From there they reached the Chin Mountains. In the 18th century a part of them migrated to Manipur and Mizoram which are in northeastern India. Generally, they maintained the tradition about their wandering and they realized that they were not Chinese even though they spoke the local language.

They call them themselves Lusi which means the Ten Tribe (”Lu” means tribes, and “si” means ten)...

...In 1854 with the arrival of the first American missionary, V. Petigrore of the Baptist Mission, the church was established. In 1910 more missionaries came and they established churches in their area of northern India. As a result, the tribal priest lost his stature and the community was subjected to Christian influences and pressure. With the spread of Christianity along the land, they were again subject to great pressures and many of their religious articles were then thrown away or burned by the British and American missionaries between 1854-1910.

Recently a return to Judaism began. Several thousand people of Menashe decided to observe the laws of the Torah and returned to Judaism. They have synagogues in Manipur, Assam, and Mizoram. There are also those who emigrated to Israel. Thousands long for returning to Israel...


29 posted on 08/30/2007 11:20:52 AM PDT by hlmencken3 (Originalist on the the 'general welfare' clause? No? NOT an originalist!)
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To: wardaddy
do they look Semetic featured?


30 posted on 08/30/2007 11:27:36 AM PDT by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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To: CarrotAndStick; wardaddy; Thinkin' Gal
Those “Semitic features” are a myth.

Oh I don't know about that. My brother looks alot like Ben Stiller. (hey, at least he doesn't look like Jerry)

31 posted on 08/30/2007 11:41:50 AM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
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To: NYer
Goosebumps. Tribe of Manasseh?
32 posted on 08/30/2007 11:45:18 AM PDT by madison10
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To: CarrotAndStick

If anything they should look Egyptian, shouldn’t they, since Manasseh’s mother had such a background?


33 posted on 08/30/2007 11:49:02 AM PDT by madison10
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To: edcoil
The 12 tribes were based the sons of Jacob (Israel). Joseph’s sons formed two tribes: Ephraim and Manasseh.

Ever heard the phrase, “Lion of the Tribe of Judah?"

34 posted on 08/30/2007 11:53:43 AM PDT by madison10
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To: madison10

I don’t know. People all over the world have been “mixing” right from the time procreation began. During the days where DNA tests were hard to come by, a lie would be good enough to claim the descendents “pure”.


35 posted on 08/30/2007 11:55:27 AM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: edcoil

The 12 Apostles is a Christian thing and absolutely nothing to do with Judaism.


36 posted on 08/30/2007 12:04:57 PM PDT by NYC GOP Chick
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To: madison10

Ever heard the phrase, “Lion of the Tribe of Judah?”

Yes, I have. 8-)


37 posted on 08/30/2007 12:06:26 PM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: edcoil

Abraham begot Isaac, Isaac begot Jacob. Jacob’s name was changed to Israel by God. Jacob had 12 sons, each of their names represent a tribe of Israel (more or less).


38 posted on 08/30/2007 12:10:13 PM PDT by PrepareToLeave (Fight on Christian soldiers!)
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To: hlmencken3

Thanks for the summary of their extensive wanderings and sufferings. I see why they have to be re-instructed (”converted”) now.


39 posted on 08/30/2007 12:55:58 PM PDT by zot
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To: JesusBmyGod
Certainly they are not “lost” to God. He knows where each of them are at right at this very moment.

Amos 9:9 For, lo, I will command, and I will sift the house of Israel among all nations, like as corn is sifted in a sieve, yet shall not the least grain fall upon the earth.

40 posted on 08/30/2007 2:29:44 PM PDT by agrace
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To: NYer

I can only imagine why it took them 50 years - the bigoted Labor governments! Welcome home brothers!


41 posted on 08/30/2007 3:13:52 PM PDT by NFOShekky (Freedom Is Never Free.)
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To: CarrotAndStick
Those “Semitic features” are a myth

I worked in Israel for many years in the 80s and know plenty Israelis from Spehardic to Ashkhenazim to Oriental......most I've known have some semetic features....even the Falashas look a bit Jewish compared to other Ethiopians

granted some Palis and Sephardic Jews look alike since afterall both are Semetic

42 posted on 08/30/2007 5:28:33 PM PDT by wardaddy (America.....the beginning of the end as we know it probably)
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To: hlmencken3

interesting


43 posted on 08/30/2007 5:29:05 PM PDT by wardaddy (America.....the beginning of the end as we know it probably)
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To: SuziQ

agreed but they do look a bit alike...,,because they do share a genetic tree...a recent one...relatively speaking to hominid chronology


44 posted on 08/30/2007 5:30:57 PM PDT by wardaddy (America.....the beginning of the end as we know it probably)
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To: NYer

No they don’t which is why I asked?

the Falashas do look semetic rather than transSaharan African.

most of those look Mongoliad racially....

the older guy on the main pic did look a bit Semetic which piqued my interest.

I have seen I believe Jeremy Piven in India visiting old Jews....the branch the Sassoons come from and they certainly looked more Semetic than other Indians...no doubt.

these folks look a bit different ....I would guess the girl at the bottom was Amerindian did I not know different.


45 posted on 08/30/2007 5:34:55 PM PDT by wardaddy (America.....the beginning of the end as we know it probably)
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To: Lijahsbubbe

why on earth do folks think Semetic features are bad?

we’re not talking Protocols here and Goebbels cartoons

we’re talking Michael Nouri and Natalie Portman too.


46 posted on 08/30/2007 5:36:57 PM PDT by wardaddy (America.....the beginning of the end as we know it probably)
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To: NYer

It’s very prophetic and end timesy. Very exciting.


47 posted on 08/30/2007 5:37:07 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: NYer
They knew where they were. They knew where they had been for 2,700 years, so, they weren’t lost.
48 posted on 08/30/2007 5:41:35 PM PDT by John Leland 1789
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To: timsbella

I’m intrigued with the suggestion that there were “lost” tribes. They were all there at the Israeli/Jewish Feast of Pentecost, 50 days after the Resurrection of Christ. James wrote to the “Twelve Tribes which are scattered abroad (not lost).”


49 posted on 08/30/2007 5:44:05 PM PDT by John Leland 1789
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To: wardaddy

And Paul Newman,Goldie Hawn, Lauren Bacall, and Cary Grant.

I agree with what you said about Ethiopian and Indian Jews. There are definitely some traits that set them apart.

And now that I think of it, Grandpa did look kinda like Jerry Stiller. :(


50 posted on 08/30/2007 5:45:03 PM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
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