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"Redacted" stuns Venice-(American Atrociries In Iraq)BARF!
Rueters ^ | 8-31-07 | By Silvia Aloisi

Posted on 08/31/2007 6:45:24 AM PDT by tcrlaf

VENICE (Reuters) - A new film about the real-life rape and killing of a 14-year-old Iraqi girl by U.S. soldiers who also murdered her family stunned the Venice festival, with shocking images that left some viewers in tears.

"Redacted", by U.S. director Brian De Palma, is one of at least eight American films on the war in Iraq due for release in the next few months and the first of two movies on the conflict screening in Venice's main competition.

Inspired by one of the most serious crimes committed by American soldiers in Iraq since the 2003 invasion, it is a harrowing indictment of the conflict and spares the audience no brutality to get its message across.

De Palma, 66, whose "Casualties of War" in 1989 told a similar tale of abuse by American soldiers in Vietnam, makes no secret of the goal he is hoping to achieve with the film's images, all based on real material he found on the Internet.

"The movie is an attempt to bring the reality of what is happening in Iraq to the American people," he told reporters after a press screening.

"The pictures are what will stop the war. One only hopes that these images will get the public incensed enough to motivate their Congressmen to vote against this war," he said.

Abeer Qasim Hamza al-Janabi was gang raped, killed and burnt by American soldiers in Mahmudiya, south of Baghdad, in March 2006. Her parents and younger daughter were also killed.

Five soldiers have since been charged with the attack. Four of them have been given sentences of between 5 and 110 years.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: briandepalma; depalma; hollywood; iraq; movie; moviereview; propoganda; redacted; wot
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Can someone tell me when De Palma's film about the IslamoRadical atrocities in Iraq, and elsewhere, is coming out?

"The film's title refers to how, according to De Palma, mainstream American newspapers and television channels are failing to tell the true story of the war by keeping the most graphic images of the conflict away from public opinion.

"When I went out to find the pictures, I said (to the media) give me the pictures you can't publish," he said, adding that because of legal dangers he too had to "edit" the material.

"Everything that is in the movie is based on something I found that actually happened. But once I had put it in the script I would get a note from a lawyer saying you can't use that because it's real and we may get sued," De Palma said.

"So I was forced to fictionalize things that were actually real."

The film, shot in Jordan with a little known cast, ends with a series of photographs of Iraqi civilians killed and their faces blacked out for legal reasons."

FAKE, but accurate...

1 posted on 08/31/2007 6:45:26 AM PDT by tcrlaf
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To: tcrlaf

Brian De Palma = the enemy.


2 posted on 08/31/2007 6:48:28 AM PDT by DManA
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To: tcrlaf

Enemy propaganda out of Hollyweird. The MO of traitors doesn’t change.


3 posted on 08/31/2007 6:49:00 AM PDT by JerseyDvl (If You Support America - Thank a Soldier; If You Support Al-Qaeda - Thank a Democrat!)
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To: tcrlaf
Your answer lies in the historical photograph of the Vietnam/girl/napalm. This is exactly what “they” are trying to accomplish again.
4 posted on 08/31/2007 6:49:58 AM PDT by xcamel (FDT/2008 -- talk about it >> irc://irc.freenode.net/fredthompson)
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To: tcrlaf

“So I was forced to fictionalize things that were actually real.”

Sounds like something Algore or Johm Kerry would say.


5 posted on 08/31/2007 6:50:38 AM PDT by oyez (Justa' another high minded lowlife.)
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To: tcrlaf

“all based on real material he found on the Internet.”

LOLOL!


6 posted on 08/31/2007 6:51:52 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: oyez

Or Dan Rather.


7 posted on 08/31/2007 6:53:28 AM PDT by OCC
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To: tcrlaf
"no secret of the goal he is hoping to achieve with the film's images, all based on real material he found on the Internet. "

Yeah, we all know that everything found on Youtube is the truth not taken out of context or edited at all... /s

8 posted on 08/31/2007 6:53:38 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: tcrlaf

Doesn’t this guy usually specialize in misogyny, violence and horror? So now he has turned his attention to besmirching the reputation of those who defend his freedoms, in a country that has made him rich. I have never seen any of his films and now I know I never will. Not one dime.


9 posted on 08/31/2007 6:54:05 AM PDT by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: JerseyDvl
The film's title refers to how, according to De Palma, mainstream American newspapers and television channels are failing to tell the true story of the war by keeping the most graphic images of the conflict away from public opinion.

The MSN dosen't miss any chances they get.

10 posted on 08/31/2007 6:54:28 AM PDT by oyez (Justa' another high minded lowlife.)
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To: tcrlaf
Yup...and of the beheaded South Korean missionary they’d say “he had it coming”.
11 posted on 08/31/2007 6:55:20 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (If martyrdom is so cool,why does Osama Obama go to such great lengths to avoid it?)
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To: tcrlaf

Okay, five Americans committed an atrocity and were tried and convicted by American military tribunals. And DePalma’s point is?


12 posted on 08/31/2007 7:00:15 AM PDT by popdonnelly (Our first responsibility is to keep the power of the Presidency out of the hands of the Clintons.)
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To: tcrlaf
Can someone tell me when De Palma's film about the IslamoRadical atrocities in Iraq, and elsewhere, is coming out?

In the universe De Palma lives in, those sorts of things don't exist. In his universe all the trouble in the world is caused by Americans and the US military. In his world, no one was prosecuted for crimes against civilians - the military didn't investigate it and no one was court-martialed.

13 posted on 08/31/2007 7:00:40 AM PDT by garbanzo (Government is not the solution to our problems. Government is the problem.)
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To: DManA

Who is this little prick and where did he come from ? Wasn’t he once a film director? Anti-American sacum...


14 posted on 08/31/2007 7:01:12 AM PDT by astounded
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To: DManA

That a$$ wipe dePalmer still alive? I thought that creep died of AIDS years ago!


15 posted on 08/31/2007 7:03:55 AM PDT by Al Gator (Refusing to "stoop to your enemy's level", gets you cut off at the knees.)
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To: tcrlaf

Politics are (is?) dirty, but people like these film producers carry it way, way beyond indecency to nausea.

Flm can be a powerful medium, playing on emotions with visual cues and music, and in the process, can abandon all respect for truth, ala Michael Moore and Al Gore.

It is a prime tool of the propagandaministers. While the truth will set you free, the opposite will enslave you. For that reason, these are sinister people.


16 posted on 08/31/2007 7:04:02 AM PDT by RoadTest (And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. -John 8:32)
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“The pictures are what will stop the war. One only hopes that these images will get the public incensed enough to motivate their Congressmen to vote against this war...”

He wants American Congressmen to vote for suicide, I guess. BTW, why didn’t he make a film about Muslim atrocities and crimes... I am certain that the frequency of these events is greater and actual good quality images are more readily available from the perpetrators themselves who have been airing the stuff openly from the beginning. Muslim murderers and torturers are doing with film what the Nazis had such a sick compulsion for doing with written records... so I am sure there is a regular goldmine of images he could use to make a really gory flick about Muslim crimes.

17 posted on 08/31/2007 7:05:46 AM PDT by SMARTY ("Stay together, pay the soldiers and forget everything else." Lucius Septimus Severus)
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...all based on real material he found on the Internet.

I found this material on the internet. Is it in his film too?

18 posted on 08/31/2007 7:10:32 AM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: 3AngelaD
Doesn’t this guy usually specialize in misogyny, violence and horror?

Amen! This drug addled hack has been churning out one loser film after another for almost 4 decades. His films are marked by graphic violence, more often than not, directed towards women. Critics have not been kind to him over the last 20 years, but I'll be they love this one.

19 posted on 08/31/2007 7:19:37 AM PDT by danno3150
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To: tcrlaf
“all based on real material he found on the Internet.”

Its on the internet, so it must be true!! Hollywood absurdity at its finest.
20 posted on 08/31/2007 7:20:18 AM PDT by kb2614 (Hell hath no fury than a bureaucrat scorned)
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To: tcrlaf

Deafening silence from Hollywood about the countless atrocities committed by Al Queda in Iraq, while this ONE INCIDENT by a few bad American GI’s is singled out.

Too bad there are a lot of fools out there who will buy into this crap.


21 posted on 08/31/2007 7:21:22 AM PDT by Elpasser
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To: tcrlaf
Hollywood is the main reason that Americas image has been destroyed.

If not for Hollywood and their inexcusable abuses of freedom of speech our image might just be a tad higher.

This piece of antiwar chicken manure needs to live in some foreign country.

In my lowly opinion, what a piece of scum bag liberal garbage.

22 posted on 08/31/2007 7:24:57 AM PDT by OKIEDOC (Kalifornia, a red state wannabe. I don't take Ex Lax I just read the New York Times.)
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To: popdonnelly
I came up with 1,630,000 hits for a Google search for "Number of Multiple Murders in the United States Since 2002"

We have to pull out of the U.S. now!

23 posted on 08/31/2007 7:25:14 AM PDT by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: tcrlaf

Such a very sad statement of today’s times. Imagine such a film on WWII back then. It is a wonder we are still free at all. Hollywood can drop in the ocean for all I care.


24 posted on 08/31/2007 7:30:33 AM PDT by SueRae
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To: tcrlaf

I keep waiting for the movie on the hugh number of rapes by UN peacekeepers.


25 posted on 08/31/2007 7:32:13 AM PDT by NeilGus
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To: tcrlaf

He used to be my favorite director. What a pathetic way to wrap up a career!


26 posted on 08/31/2007 7:34:50 AM PDT by Ozone34
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To: OKIEDOC

“Hollywood is the main reason that Americas image has been destroyed”

I had a close business acquaintance, an engineer, in the early eighties, a Russian Jew married to a a non-Jew. He had learned English in underground classes and eventually had an opportunity to immigrate to the US on one of those special State programs.

His wife, from a village in western Russia, told of how her family, knowing full well what kind of discrimination they endured, cried. weeped and wailed when they heard she was going to the US. They just knew she would be raped and murdered here. Why? Because all they knew of the US were Hollywood movies and only the most violent were allowed to be shown in Russia.


27 posted on 08/31/2007 7:37:30 AM PDT by elpadre
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To: tcrlaf

I hope one day a Marine kicks his pathetic ass!


28 posted on 08/31/2007 7:39:23 AM PDT by avacado
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To: tcrlaf

Of course, there are murderers in every country in the world, too.

That means everybody ought to leave every country, if we were to be consistent with the premise of this movie.


29 posted on 08/31/2007 7:41:58 AM PDT by ConservativeMind
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To: tcrlaf

I find it interesting that there have been no movies made about our highly successful Gulf War 1.


30 posted on 08/31/2007 7:52:37 AM PDT by FReepaholic (Vini ,Vidi, VD: I Came, I Saw, I Cankered)
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To: popdonnelly

We all know what his point is. He’s pissed that not enough people are spitting on US soldiers.

This is the “Birth of a Nation” of anti-American and anti-military movies.


31 posted on 08/31/2007 7:53:58 AM PDT by oldleft
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To: 3AngelaD
Doesn’t this guy usually specialize in misogyny, violence and horror?

He directed Carrie, and we know how that film ended. Get our kids out of government schools now! ;')

32 posted on 08/31/2007 8:09:49 AM PDT by Rocko ( "Where's the global warming? It's freezing in here." -- Bob Dylan)
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To: popdonnelly
Okay, five Americans committed an atrocity and were tried and convicted by American military tribunals. And DePalma’s point is?

To answer your rhetorical question:

His (idiotic) point is forget about atrocities committed on a REGULAR basis and as their MO by Saddam pre-2003 and by the insurgents now.

I have a story about an illegal alien committing an atrocity as well, here in the US. I'll tell it to Brian.

Will that turn Brian in favor of deporting ALL illegal aliens???

33 posted on 08/31/2007 8:21:28 AM PDT by beckaz (Dump Gonzales Before Yesterday, and Chertoff too.)
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To: DManA

One hopes that Brian De Palma or his loved ones one day meet the jihadis face to face. One hopes in that case, the jihadis are successful at getting him and his loved ones to submit...via the sword....

Brian, you clearly lost no one you cared about on 911- you are a piece of garbage,you deserve all ill that comes your way. In World War 2— you would have championed the good things that Herr Hitler was doing over in Germany. You would have defended Tojo during the Rape of Nanking. DePalma should be fragged..


34 posted on 08/31/2007 8:22:27 AM PDT by RadioCirca1970 (ISLAM and its Adherents ARE the enemy)
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To: avacado

AMEN


35 posted on 08/31/2007 8:23:18 AM PDT by RadioCirca1970 (ISLAM and its Adherents ARE the enemy)
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To: RadioCirca1970

Got this quote from Depalma on his page fromIMDB, At least he is consistant!!

“The camera lies all the time; lies 24 times/second.”


36 posted on 08/31/2007 8:33:54 AM PDT by Deek1969
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To: tcrlaf

Producers:
Jennifer Weiss;Simone Urdl;Jason Kliot;Joanna Vicente;Todd Wagner;Mark Cuban

Yes, that same Mark Cuban who owns the Dallas Mavericks


37 posted on 08/31/2007 8:54:24 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: SandRat; freema

ping

More Commie propaganda from Brian De Punk!


38 posted on 08/31/2007 8:55:54 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: tcrlaf

so is this firmly fake?

is there aaaaaany truth?

or is it another fake soldier story. (ala videos with actors dressed up as soldiers.)


39 posted on 08/31/2007 8:56:25 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: kellynla

Dallas Mavericks just died as a franchise.


40 posted on 08/31/2007 8:57:56 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: 3AngelaD
"misogyny, violence and horror"

Yes, DePalma gets off on rape, torture and steamy thrillers so this material had him salivating, I'm sure. Probably the most 'enjoyable' (for him) film he's ever made.

Of course he will only do propaganda on behalf of the jihadists; we won't see any films from him depicting the overwhelming array of hideous acts by the jihadists as a matter of conscious policy and official terror.
41 posted on 08/31/2007 9:01:13 AM PDT by Enchante (Reid and Pelosi Defeatocrats: Surrender Now - Peace for Our Time!!)
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To: tcrlaf
Movie "Redacted" should be "Redacted"

This amounts to another psychotic stream of unconsciousness from a far-left nut-job. It's tantamount to "inconvienient truth" put out by AlGore. I'm sure Mr. DePalma spent countless hours ensuring accuracy and that the "material he found on the Internet" wasn't 'staged'. (drenched in sarcasm!)

Mr. DePalma states that he was "forced to fictionalize things that were actually real." Yea, riiiiight. Liberals never miss an opportunity to endanger American troops, hoping that one will loose his/her life. That's how DePalma hopes to affect the war! When he learned the truth didn't agree with what he wanted to portray, he decided it was time to concoct this trash masquerading as film-journalism.

DePalma is quoted as saying "...this message must be put forward and hopefully the public will respond," My response, "Mr. DePalma" (if that's even your real name) will be to not watch your attempt to kill American Soldier's with your Anti-Freedom, Anti-Capitalist, Anti-Life, Anti-American PROPAGANDA! I realize that you and your ilk remain dumbfounded at America's choice for President for the last 7 years but it's way past time for you to get over it.
42 posted on 08/31/2007 9:36:28 AM PDT by Arcy
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To: tcrlaf
United Nations troops have raped, killed, and abused more civilians than our troops. I'm sure De Palma's next film will be on the atrocities committed by the UN and he will be asking for all UN troops to be brought home.
43 posted on 08/31/2007 10:36:18 AM PDT by SantaLuz
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To: tcrlaf

I will NEVER go see another Brian DePalma film EVER.

You bastard, WAR is SUPPOSED to be HELL. Freaking bleeding liberal IDIOT! Its no DETERRENT if it ISN’T!

Burn in your own private hell DePalma.


44 posted on 08/31/2007 11:15:08 AM PDT by Danae (Anail nathrach, orth' bhais's bethad, do chel denmha (Smoke clears and Fred Thompson is President))
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To: Arcy

Who financed this piece of crap anyway??? I will boycott them as well.


45 posted on 08/31/2007 11:23:02 AM PDT by Danae (Anail nathrach, orth' bhais's bethad, do chel denmha (Smoke clears and Fred Thompson is President))
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To: Danae

Oh thats right, silly me, Al Qaeda and Iran. D’uh


46 posted on 08/31/2007 11:23:38 AM PDT by Danae (Anail nathrach, orth' bhais's bethad, do chel denmha (Smoke clears and Fred Thompson is President))
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To: tcrlaf
What a chump!!!!!


47 posted on 08/31/2007 11:52:03 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement
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To: tcrlaf

A fictionalized account of a single bad incident involving US troops is worth a Hollywood epic, but routine daily acts of murder by al-Qaeda thugs in Iraq elicit nothing, except for the occasional snide comment that it’s our fault they’re doing it. Treasonous bastards, all.


48 posted on 08/31/2007 12:00:56 PM PDT by andy58-in-nh (There are two kinds of people: those who get it, and those who need to.)
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To: tcrlaf
The movie is an attempt to bring the reality of what is happening in Iraq to the American people

For De Palma’s statement to be true, that would have to mean the horrific events he describes in his film are pervasive and typical of American operations in the area. That is the meaning of his quote ‘the reality of what is happening.’ If De Palma’s film is not only not entirely accurate, but equally, not pervasive and typical, then De Palma may be telling us (more or less) about an event that happened in Iraq, but he is not telling us ‘the reality of what is happening’ in Iraq.

In other words, De Palma is not a storyteller; he is a propagandist (in plain English, a damned liar). He ought to be awarded a Goebbels. His film is the very personification of one of the basic techniques (two actually) of The Art of Propaganda:

Select the few facts that support your case; discard the others, or simply indulge in a brazen reversal of their contents. Distort the facts that don’t quite fit without some creative reshaping. From that base add inference and conjecture. And, follow the techniques of the BIG LIE to drive the point home.

De Palma’s film is a exquisite example of how to lie by telling ‘the truth’ (more or less), and it is a repetition of how we were feed the lies that brought us down in Vietnam.

49 posted on 08/31/2007 12:18:16 PM PDT by YHAOS
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To: tcrlaf

Maybe De Palma and Craig can hook up and do to each other in an Airport bathroom what De Palma is trying to do to the American Troops in Iraq.


50 posted on 08/31/2007 12:27:37 PM PDT by dotnetfellow
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