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Inside the nuclear underworld: Deformity and fear
CNN.Com / asia ^ | 08/31/2007 | By Matthew Chance CNN

Posted on 08/31/2007 12:27:48 PM PDT by F15Eagle

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To: FreedomCalls

Is that to mean that no Russian people were affected by the radioactivity from their weapons testing?


51 posted on 09/01/2007 4:03:53 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Tim 1:4; Gal 1:6-10; 1Cor 2:2; Matthew 22:30; Mark 12:25; Luke 20:34-35; 2Thess 2:11; Jude 1:3)
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To: fso301

Don’t know but there’s a lot of good stuff on the thread, including struww’s post on Chelyabinsk-40.


52 posted on 09/01/2007 4:10:17 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Tim 1:4; Gal 1:6-10; 1Cor 2:2; Matthew 22:30; Mark 12:25; Luke 20:34-35; 2Thess 2:11; Jude 1:3)
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To: FreedomCalls

How far from Las Vegas? Nobody was affected?


53 posted on 09/01/2007 4:11:46 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Tim 1:4; Gal 1:6-10; 1Cor 2:2; Matthew 22:30; Mark 12:25; Luke 20:34-35; 2Thess 2:11; Jude 1:3)
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To: Popman
...the results of our own nuclear testing upon innocent men, women and children are not much different. Horse crap!

Knee. Jerk. Uncontrolled Spasm.

You need to check out this link Pop:

http://www.rls.org

Good Luck.
54 posted on 09/01/2007 4:17:06 PM PDT by mkjessup (Jan 20, 2009 - "We Don't Know. Where Rudy Went. Just Glad He's Not. The President. Burma Shave.")
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To: F15Eagle
Is that to mean that no Russian people were affected by the radioactivity from their weapons testing?

It simply means that more than twice as many underground nuclear tests were carried out in Nevada than in Semipalatinsk and about an equal number of above-ground tests. There are other factors in play -- the sheer number of tests carried out at a test site by itself is not a good indication of the number of people affected nor the severity of those afflictions.

55 posted on 09/01/2007 4:20:35 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: FreedomCalls

True but it was the above-ground tests that I meant to emphasize because you expect the airborne dust to have the lethality. Semipalatinsk residents have such odd deformities that there must be some connection and there was a good post in the thead on it.


56 posted on 09/01/2007 4:31:02 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Tim 1:4; Gal 1:6-10; 1Cor 2:2; Matthew 22:30; Mark 12:25; Luke 20:34-35; 2Thess 2:11; Jude 1:3)
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To: silverleaf
speaking of spinning-

I see you're back to do some more of that.

I am still waiting for you to post a picture of a US “nuclear veteran” (civilian) exposed after the 1963 atmospheric test ban...

I am not obligated to post a bloody thing for your straw man argument(s).

I have more pictures of Russian/FSU Republic civilians and their deformed children deliberately exposed to Russian military nuke radiation and other environmental poisons - through the late 1990’s...

Well post them all, whatever gets you off pal. What you're missing here is that not once did I suggest or imply that the United States Government delibrately and maliciously exposed anyone (American or foreign national) to 'military nuke radiation', et al.

What I do contend, is that our illustrious government, while not acting with malice towards those who were exposed during U.S. atomic testing of the 50's, was utterly stupid, reckless and irresponsible in not doing more to protect both military personnel and civilians from the radiological effects of the many aboveground atomic tests that were conducted at the Nevada test site.

And they were not at all ignorant of the dangers, even under controlled laboratory conditions, they had accidents and miscalculations, you might look up the name 'Harry Daghlian', who died 62 years ago as of the 15th of this month as a result of a nuclear boo-boo at noneother than the Los Alamos facility itself.

tick tick tick

That's your faulty logic getting ready to explode in your face.
57 posted on 09/01/2007 4:45:51 PM PDT by mkjessup (Jan 20, 2009 - "We Don't Know. Where Rudy Went. Just Glad He's Not. The President. Burma Shave.")
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To: southland
I agree with your view of US bomb testing. Very little protection was offered even though some actually knew what the results would be.

After the Trinity test and the subsequent Hiroshima and Nagasaki detonations, all U.S. atomic testing should have been confined to the isolated Pacific regions (Eniwetok, Rongelap, Bikini, etc.), regardless of the cost.
58 posted on 09/01/2007 5:03:11 PM PDT by mkjessup (Jan 20, 2009 - "We Don't Know. Where Rudy Went. Just Glad He's Not. The President. Burma Shave.")
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To: UCANSEE2
Very true. Much of the testing was done out in the SouthWestern desert of the US, and when TIME magazine did a photo shoot of nearby townspeople, they used STAND-INS. They didn’t want YOU to see the real townspeople. The MSM didn’t start lying to us recently, as many might think. It has always been this way. So there will always be those who do not see, those who do not hear.

Not only the MSM, but the federal government. I don't buy into the idea that there was some sort of malicious conspiracy to deliberately nuke parts of the U.S. population in Utah and surrounding areas, but I do believe that in the name of expediency, 'national security', and the always pressing need to do it cheaper, that the entire nuclear testing debacle of the 50's at the Nevada site took place because nobody had the damn common sense to understand that radiation and fallout not only do not respect state or national borders, they don't respect any political affiliation whatsoever.

It can be summed up like this:

The Soviet nuke test programs? Run by EVIL and uncaring men.

The U.S. aboveground nuke test program in Nevada? Run by a bunch of dumb asses.

Let the flames begin.
59 posted on 09/01/2007 5:10:16 PM PDT by mkjessup (Jan 20, 2009 - "We Don't Know. Where Rudy Went. Just Glad He's Not. The President. Burma Shave.")
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To: mkjessup

You are correct. The above ground tests in the US were very lethal and has not been disclosed how bad...


60 posted on 09/01/2007 5:18:51 PM PDT by southland (Proverbs 22:7)
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To: F15Eagle

CNN is not trying to show the evils of communism, they’re trying to show the evils of nuclear power.


61 posted on 09/01/2007 5:21:40 PM PDT by balch3
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To: mkjessup
I fail to see what Restless Leg Syndrome has to do with my post.

You URL brings me to that website.

Try again?

62 posted on 09/02/2007 7:40:22 AM PDT by Popman (Nothing + Time + Chance = The Universe ---------------------Bridge in Brooklyn for sell - Cheap)
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To: TChris
True. But nuclear power plants would mostly be pushing out coal-powered ones, so the effect on oil wouldn't necessarily be much.

If we build enough of them the price of electricity *should* drop, and that might make electric cars and electric home heating more sensible.

But you are right, now it would be used to replace coal, then natural gas.

63 posted on 09/02/2007 7:44:02 AM PDT by Tribune7 (Michael Moore bought Haliburton)
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To: Popman
I fail to see what Restless Leg Syndrome has to do with my post. Your URL brings me to that website. Try again?

Well c'mon Pop, I couldn't find a URL for 'Kneejerk Reaction Syndrome', don't be so picky.
64 posted on 09/02/2007 8:34:51 AM PDT by mkjessup (Jan 20, 2009 - "We Don't Know. Where Rudy Went. Just Glad He's Not. The President. Burma Shave.")
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