Posted on 08/31/2007 7:09:52 PM PDT by neverdem
The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives has issued a revised form 4473 which must be used as of Sept. 1, 2007
Read About It: BATFE (PDF link)
ATF REVISES FEDERAL FIREARMS TRANSACTION RECORD FORM WASHINGTON – The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives
(ATF) reminds federal firearms licensees that effective Sept. 1 they must use the revised Firearms Transaction Record Part I – Over-the-Counter (ATF Form 4473).
“In the immediate aftermath of the tragic events at Virginia Tech in April, many questions arose about whether the person responsible was prohibited under federal law from possessing a firearm and how the shooter passed the background check required before purchasing the two firearms used,” said ATF Acting Director Michael J. Sullivan. “ATF is clarifying this form in an effort to make it clear that any person who has been found by a court board or other lawful authority to be a danger to self or others is prohibited from purchasing a firearm or ammunition.”
The form clarifies the question regarding “mental defectives” and incorporates the definitions of this term set forth in the regulations, 27 CFR 478.11. The revision also incorporates certain provisions of the Violence Against Women and Department of Justice Reauthorization Act of 2005 (Public Law 109-162) by adding “tribal offense” and “Tribal Law” to the definition of Misdemeanor Crime of Domestic Violence.
ATF is a principal law enforcement agency within the U.S. Department of Justice dedicated to preventing terrorism, reducing violent crime and protecting our nation. The men and women of ATF perform the dual responsibilities of enforcing federal criminal laws and regulating the firearms and explosives industries. More information on ATF and its programs and resources is at www.atf.gov.
Yes, and the purchaser will dutifully answer the question truthfully.
They have come a long way from a tax collection agency. Leave it to the government to just grow and infringe, grow and infringe. Give them an inch and they will take a mile and never stop to look back.
The way it works here Florida is that the buyer completes the 4473. The FFL then reviews the form to determine if the the buyer is not prohibited from purchasing a firearm. Then the FFL makes a call-in background check with the Florida Department of Law Enforcement(FDLE). If the buyer is denied then the FFL can not transfer the firearm. After 30 days (the appeal time) the local law enforcement agency who has jurisdiction where the purchase was attempted is notified by the FDLE and they pick up the form 4473 and investigate the buyer for lying on the form which is a federal and state felony.
That's IF the FDLE can find the applicant. If the applicant lied on the 4473 about eligibility to buy a gun, he/she probably also lied about their home address. I guess an applicant would leave fingerprints on the form, but would fingerprints on paper remain detectable and readable after 30 days? It seems to me that the skin oils that leave the prints would have dispersed through the paper's fibers and become so blurred by the that time that they would be almost useless.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
When did the “BATF” become the “BATFE”?
Just what the heck does this mean??
"Tribal Law" is Sharia (sp) crap! Are we now under Islamic law?
When the SecondAmendment Enforcment Commission (SEC) finally adjudicated them morally and ethically bankrupt, and forced them to put an "E" at the end of their ticker symbol.
IIRC, when they left the Treasury and went to DOJ.
Thanks for the pic!
2002.
Not only is the barrel in his ear, but his finger is on the trigger.
In the last few days some one posted a pic of an officer with an AR-15 with magazine in backwards. Please ping me with that pic.
I an having an argument with an anti gunner that will not believe me.
THANKS
LOL! Let me know if you find it, please?
Neverdem,
It was posted in a thread in the last week or so, It was a female cop (sorry Ladies) at a stake out. You know, a newspaper photo and she had the mag in with it curving to the rear!
Form 11 was for Class III Dealer of fully automatic weapons or selling unadulterated butter...
what the hell ‘unadulterated butter’ is...got to http://www.greens.org.nz/searchdocs/PR4401.html
The Kewis get it!
That's generally true, but not always. When I was an FFL dealer in the early '90s I heard of applicants in that area who were turned down at other FFL dealers by the instant background check (which BTW was anything but instant in those early days of the system) because of a criminal record or a falsified yellow sheet application.
I never heard of BATF or any LE agency investigating those falsified 4473 forms, which led me to believe that prosecution in those cases may be more threat than reality, at least back at that time.
Native American tribes. In addition to everything else, the reservations have a big time domestic violence problem.
In 2003, when it moved from Treasury to Justice, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms became the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. They still call it “ATF,” though, as opposed to “ATFE.” (Answer Man has spent some time around ATF agents. They love explosives, so it’s nice to see that reflected in the name.)
Answer Man: Name That Agency
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A32537-2005Mar13_2.html
Thanks for the link.
They are tax collectors with delusions of grandeur. Or at least they *were* until they moved to DoJ. Now they don't bother with the "tax" fig leaf. They exist to violated the Constitution. They are also the very bottom of the barrel of federal law enforcement agencies,and it's a very deep barrel.
When they were transferred to the Department of Justice, from the Treasury department. It was part of the reorganization of federal law enforcement that helped create the Homeland Security Department. On November 25, 2002, the Homeland Security Act of 2002 split the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms or BATF or, more commonly the ATF, into two different parts. The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms (BATF or ATF) was renamed the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives and was moved into the Justice Department from the Treasury Department, and is responsible for the law enforcement effort.
Honestly I assumed that this is what they meant but the way it seems to be worded thay left the door wide open.
Close the BAFTE, immediately!!!
2nd that
The inmates are running the asylum.
No, actually paper is an excellent medium for fingerprints.
I think they're probably referring to law enforcement and court systems on Indian reservations.
I know. That picture is so bizarre, every time I see it, I wonder if it’s a fake.
There was so much confusion as how to pronounce BATF that they added the 'e' to ensure the 'A' is pronounced as a long 'A' not the short 'A'. :^)
And just think, they started out as mere tax collectors.
You, too can have career success and attain high power if you join in the effort to scare everyone silly and turn the nation into a bunch of pencil-pushers.
My guess is that it’s a joke; I doubt that even the ATF would actually be stupid enough to let that kind of pic out.
Another great video of one of our “finest” feds giving gun safety lessons.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=MeGD7r6s-zU
“Tribal Law” is Sharia (sp) crap! Are we now under Islamic law?
No if you live on a Indian reservation you are under “Tribal Law” tribal courts etc. not US courts.
Amazing. Don’t be walking around pulling the trigger. I’m from the gov’t and I’m here to help. LOL.
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