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Huckabee backs D.C. voting rights bill
The Hill ^ | 8/31/07 | Karissa Marcum

Posted on 08/31/2007 8:26:21 PM PDT by LdSentinal

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To: EternalVigilance
Virginia got its piece of the District a long time ago. The current retrocession question only involves Maryland.
61 posted on 09/01/2007 4:51:36 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: pnh102
I agree with you totally about DC's getting congressional representation being a bad idea, but is it right that us in Maryland must be made to suffer having to deal with the train wreck that is DC voting in our elections? :)

Not imposing federal taxes on DC residents is a more pracitcal and constitutional idea.

I live here. Both of these ideas are horrendous. DC is such a bizarre place, because of the Federal presence, that it does not need or deserve a right to vote in the elections. Remember, all it will do is to vote for whomever is backing the expansion of government and tax revenue.

The second idea of exempting DC from taxes is about the worst idea anyone has ever had. As you argued a plurality (but not majority) of folks here work for the Federal Government. They need to feel the pain of taxes just as much as anyone.

On a personal note, however, owning a house here, I applaud the idea of not paying federal taxes. My property value will immediately increase another million or so beyond the Alan Greenspan memorial housing bubble subsidy (praise be to his glorious name) because of the discounted value of the benefit. At that point no federal employee would be able to afford the place. It will ALL be high priced attorneys, corporate officers (and for reasons I fail to understand a lot of companies are now headquartered in the DC area), and overaged trust fund babies.

You would never get anyone competent to work in DC on a federal salary again.

62 posted on 09/01/2007 5:34:51 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: cookcounty
No taxation without representation is “Crazy?”Excuse me, but with 100 Senators and 435 representatives who reside in the metropolitan area and work in the district, DC is not exactly without representation.
63 posted on 09/01/2007 5:36:13 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
There should be no city government whatsoever or residents living there.

This is wrong. Someone has to worry about cleaning the streets and issuing parking tickets. If you want to argue that "home rule" is a disaster, well, no one believes that more than me. Why is it that DC has the least effective public school system of any major metropolitan area in the world? It is an embarassment.

On your second point, residents have always lived in DC, even before it was DC and 3/4 of the land area is covered by housing and residential services and businesses, if not more. You do not even want to think about the kind of bureaucracy that would fill 100 sq miles of land, or the king of bureaucrats who would agree to commute from far away, every day to work there.

Huckabee has lost any moorings of sanity. I cannot believe that anyone who actually worked here would make such idiotic statements.

64 posted on 09/01/2007 5:42:09 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: DaveLoneRanger

“The House of Representatives shall be composed of members chosen every second year by the people of the several states...”

Article I, Section II, US Constitution. Members of the House of Representatives are chosen by the people of the several states, not territories or Districts.


65 posted on 09/01/2007 6:14:24 AM PDT by ops33 (Retired USAF Senior Master Sergeant)
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To: AndyJackson
DC's being exempt from federal taxes doesn't mean the residents won't pay increased local taxes.

On a personal note, however, owning a house here, I applaud the idea of not paying federal taxes. My property value will immediately increase another million or so beyond the Alan Greenspan memorial housing bubble subsidy

Puerto Rico and other US territories do not pay US federal taxes either. Has what you claimed happened there?

66 posted on 09/01/2007 6:40:55 AM PDT by pnh102
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To: pnh102
Puerto Rico and other US territories do not pay US federal taxes either. Has what you claimed happened there?

The corporate officers of Lockhead Martin, Northrop, or the attorneys at Williams Connolly are not about to move to Puerto Rico to escape the federal income tax.

They already live in the DC area and you are just offering them an enormous tax break at everyone else's expense.

There is already a DC income tax, but by eliminating the federal income tax, you merely invite Marion Barry's cronies to raise the local tax and increase the flow to their coffers, at the very great expense of the US taxpayer.

I don't know why anyone outside of DC would be in favor of any special favors for DC. We deserve none and need none.

I live here, and I take it you don't.

67 posted on 09/01/2007 7:40:41 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: pnh102

In fact, I see you live in MD. You ought to be really against special favors for DC.


68 posted on 09/01/2007 7:42:54 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: cookcounty

Yes, because this legislation is unconstitutional. They have 3 electoral votes.


69 posted on 09/01/2007 7:48:35 AM PDT by LdSentinal
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To: AndyJackson
What is wrong with D.C. just being a federal capital? It can just be a capital without all the hassles of corrupt city government or ordinary citizens living there. Just let it be a capital where gov't workers and politicians go to.

This is wrong. Someone has to worry about cleaning the streets and issuing parking tickets.

I'm sure there'll still be Capital police & the capital can contract municipal services from the private sector.

70 posted on 09/01/2007 12:41:05 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: ClaireSolt
I think the constitution established the District of Columbia. How could it just be dissolved into Md and VA?

The District Clause (Article I, Section 8, Clause 17) of the Constitution establishes how a national capital, separate from any State, may be created. It did not create the District of Columbia. The portion of DC that came from Virginia was retroceded (returned) to Virginia in 1846. All of the land that is the current DC came from Maryland. Therefore, it could only be returned to Maryland.

71 posted on 09/01/2007 2:25:01 PM PDT by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Personally, D.C. should just be a federal capital. There should be no city government whatsoever or residents living there. It should be a federal "campus", so to speak.

That's absolutely right. There should no more be people living there than in a big commercial office park.

72 posted on 09/01/2007 5:08:41 PM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: LdSentinal

Yes, he’s a lose cannon. Get him off deck ASAP.


73 posted on 09/01/2007 5:15:20 PM PDT by Jack Black
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To: AndyJackson
This is wrong. Someone has to worry about cleaning the streets and issuing parking tickets.

Who cleans the streets and issues the parking tickets in this place?

C. B. Richard Ellis Property Management Inc., if I'm remembering correctly.

74 posted on 09/01/2007 5:19:11 PM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: LdSentinal
Huckabee is making a mistake many well meaning people have made. He is equating goodness and Constitutionality. Just because a bill would enact a good idea doesn't mean that idea is Constitutionally permissible.

Hopefully the President will do what he promised he would do: veto this blatantly Unconstitutional attempt at amending the Constitution via legislation, rather than a Constitutional amendment. In 1978, such an amendment was passed by the Congress. Only 16 States ratified it (38 needed for adoption). Clearly the D's want to avoid giving the States a say this time. Amazing how the D's show their love for the Constitution (NOT).

75 posted on 09/01/2007 5:33:06 PM PDT by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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