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Drive your car to death, save $31,000
CNN Money/Consumer Reports ^ | August 31 2007

Posted on 08/31/2007 10:27:15 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

By keeping your car for 15 years, or 225,000 miles of driving, you could save nearly $31,000, according to Consumer Reports magazine. That's compared to the cost of buying an identical model every five years, which is roughly the rate at which most car owners trade in their vehicles.

In its annual national auto survey, the magazine found 6,769 readers who had logged more than 200,000 miles on their cars. Their cars included a 1990 Lexus LS400 with 332,000 miles and a 1994 Ford Ranger pick-up that had gone 488,000 miles.

Consumer Reports calls the Honda Civic a "Good bet" to make it to 200,000 miles.

Calculating the costs involved in buying a new Honda Civic EX every five years for 15 years - including depreciation, taxes, fees and insurance - the magazine estimated it would cost $20,500 more than it would have cost to simply maintain one car for the same period.

Added to that, the magazine factored in $10,300 in interest that could have been earned on that money, assuming a five percent interest rate and a three percent inflation rate, over that time.

The magazine found similar savings with other models.

To have much hope of making it to 200,000 miles, a car has to be well maintained, of course. The magazine recommends several steps to help your car see it through.

Follow the maintenance guide in your owner's manual and make needed repairs promptly.

Use only the recommended types of fluids, including oil and transmission fluids.

Check under the hood regularly. Listen for strange sounds, sniff for odd smells and look for fraying or bulges in pipes or belts. Also, get a vehicle service manual. They're available at most auto parts stores or your dealership.

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KEYWORDS: automobiles; automotive; car; economizing; frugality; gasoline; oil
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Good idea. My 1984 Mercedes 300D diesel cost $100 almost three years ago and is running fine.
1 posted on 08/31/2007 10:27:17 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

my 1998 saturn cost me 5,000.00 in 2003. paid for and still going strong.


2 posted on 08/31/2007 10:28:52 PM PDT by television is just wrong (deport all illegal aliens NOW. Put all AMERICANS TO WORK FIRST. END WELFARE.i)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

2002 mustang still going strong, approaching 200K.


3 posted on 08/31/2007 10:30:42 PM PDT by mysterio
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I buy 3 year old luxury cars wholesale, drive em for a year, and usually break even.


4 posted on 08/31/2007 10:32:02 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

BUMP


5 posted on 08/31/2007 10:32:30 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

For you guys that can afford it, replace your cars frequently, the growth in technology is so rapid, that unless you have to (like me) don’t live with an outdated car.

I drive a 2000 car and it is fine for me, but if I wasn’t concerned about the money why would I skip seven years of modernity?


6 posted on 08/31/2007 10:37:24 PM PDT by ansel12 (Paranoia, conspiracy, superiority, otherness, pod people "The Invasion" 2007 imdb)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I got a 1966 Mustang for sale anyone want to buy it and try to kill it?


7 posted on 08/31/2007 10:37:37 PM PDT by usmcobra (I sing Karaoke the way it was meant to be sung, drunk, badly and in Japanese)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Than I must have saved a lot of money. I always keep my cars for 10 years or more. My 1998 Mercury Grand Marqui is really nice. Palomino leather seats, white with tan half top. All tricked out; but half the cost of the Lincoln Town Car. Had a Grand Prix for 10 years.


8 posted on 08/31/2007 10:39:50 PM PDT by freekitty (May the eagles long fly over our beautiful and free American sky.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Our 1987 Plymouth Reliant (new when I bought it) has 280,000 miles on it! We brought our son home from the hospital in it when he was born.

Last year he got his driver’s license in it.

This year he was driving the car up to the day he went to boot camp MCRD San Diego.


9 posted on 08/31/2007 10:42:41 PM PDT by Edgewood Pilot (Proud father of a United States Marine)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
By keeping your car for 15 years, or 225,000 miles of driving, you could save nearly $31,000, according to Consumer Reports magazine.

Yes, but you need a car that will last that long in the first place. Case in point:

'78 VW Scirocco - 225,000+ miles (the odometer broke around 185,000). Every month it didn't need a repair, it was like saving a car payment. I literally drove it until the driver's seat welds broke loose from the floor, and it became unsafe to be behind the wheel during a turn :D

'95 Plymouth Voyager minivan - needed to replace the transmission at 65,000 miles, and again at 115,000 miles. I refused to replace it the second time, and dumped the vehicle.

10 posted on 08/31/2007 10:42:58 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (As heard on the Amish Radio Network! http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1675029/posts)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Here in Alaska, no one cares about looks or style, since your car is either covered with snow, frost, mud, or insects for most of the year, the roads (in our town, at least) are all gravel, and there’s no way you can haul a moose leg, 40 salmon, or a yard of gravel in a new Prius. So there are many of us with cars that are at least 15 years old, and we tend to drive them until they die, at which time someone else comes along and resurrects them like Dracula in an old Christopher Lee movie. You do save a lot of money when substance trumps style.


11 posted on 08/31/2007 10:44:04 PM PDT by redpoll (redpoll)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Or, buy a new car/pre owned every five years and enjoy your car to the maximum.... 31,000 after 15 years? BFD


12 posted on 08/31/2007 10:44:26 PM PDT by Porterville (I'm an American. If you hate Americans, I hope our enemies destroy you. I will pray for my soul.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Works for me. Still driving my 1990 Dakota 4 x 4, paid off in 1993. Ugly dog, boring to drive, but...cheap cheap cheap. I’m afraid it won’t last 5 more years, then I will be forced to buy another...boring old dog.


13 posted on 08/31/2007 10:44:26 PM PDT by FlyVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

1984 Toyota Supra. 270,000 miles. Paid $1500 for it in 1998. Runs like an absolute top. I think I’ve gotten my money’s worth.


14 posted on 08/31/2007 10:45:50 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Purchased a new Ford ZX2 in 98 and still going strong at 65k miles (I don’t drive long distances very often). Paid off in 2002 and about $5k on maintenance and repairs so far.

I think I picked the wrong car to go the long haul with though.
This article makes me want to buy a new civic.


15 posted on 08/31/2007 10:46:25 PM PDT by Teflonic
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
You are a good judge of sheet metal...

As for me, the twins have 379,000 between them...

1986 745i, 1984 733is

The 1984 733 above has 214K on the original drive train...

And I own and have restored both for less than a base model Accord.

16 posted on 08/31/2007 10:48:04 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (I don't use a sarcasm tag, it kills the effect...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I put almost 200,000 on a Mazda RX convertible. That was a really fun car. I wish, of course, I still had that beautiful 1959 Porsche convertible with 15 coats of black laquer paint.

This isn't a photo of mine, but this is the car.


17 posted on 08/31/2007 10:50:35 PM PDT by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

215,000 miles in one of these. It'll still go fast enough to put me in jail. Nothing quite like it being built today, either.

18 posted on 08/31/2007 10:52:08 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: ejonesie22
Beautiful automobiles. I need to spend a little more time & money on my car to restore that “new car” look like you have. It’s black with palomino (tan) leather interior.
19 posted on 08/31/2007 10:52:46 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Cuius testiculos habeas, habeas cardia et cerebellum)
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To: Billthedrill

Subaru SRX, right?


20 posted on 08/31/2007 10:54:06 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Cuius testiculos habeas, habeas cardia et cerebellum)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
SVX. Man, do you know your cars!

I had it to 135 once and backed off. The car had plenty left but I didn't.

21 posted on 08/31/2007 10:55:06 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Alex Murphy

They don’t build them like they used to. The new ones, while nice will not hold up, not if for any other reason than no one wants to work on them.


22 posted on 08/31/2007 10:56:26 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (I don't use a sarcasm tag, it kills the effect...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It is worth it. the 70s and 80s produced some fine German cars. IMHO they rival the comfort of modern cars but with much less head ache.

The 733 is done, the 745 waits paint and upholstery.

I would drive either across country tonight.

23 posted on 08/31/2007 10:57:12 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (I don't use a sarcasm tag, it kills the effect...)
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To: doug from upland

Yes, very nice.


24 posted on 08/31/2007 10:57:50 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (I don't use a sarcasm tag, it kills the effect...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

My truck has 140,000 miles which I drive on weekends, but my company forces me to get a new car every two years now. They pay for it so I guess they have a right. I barely get 75-80,000 on it before its gone. It takes a couple of years get to get the seat wore in right.


25 posted on 08/31/2007 11:00:37 PM PDT by ThomasThomas
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Looks more like an SVX to me. SRX is the new Cadillac crossover SUV.


26 posted on 08/31/2007 11:01:57 PM PDT by Adams
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Nobody in my family has ever had a car payment in his/her life.
We pay cash for a car and then drive it into the ground. A couple hundred every year for maintenance, and maybe several hundred for something major every five years beats that crap by a mile. I want to write a check for $200 every month, month after month?

"I don't think so, Tim."


27 posted on 08/31/2007 11:05:17 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Cars are not an investment. They depreciate over time.


28 posted on 08/31/2007 11:06:20 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: television is just wrong

>>my 1998 saturn cost me 5,000.00 in 2003. paid for and still going strong.<<

Yep, the way to really save is to not buy new cars in the first place.


29 posted on 08/31/2007 11:06:51 PM PDT by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Depends on the car and the owner.


30 posted on 08/31/2007 11:11:18 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (I don't use a sarcasm tag, it kills the effect...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Consumer Reports calls the Honda Civic a "Good bet" to make it to 200,000 miles.

Yea, let's all climb into beater Civics and save some coin. Yeetch . . .
31 posted on 08/31/2007 11:13:51 PM PDT by BraveMan
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

1994 Acura Legend Coupe...123,000 miles and plan on another 100,000 easily (hope no tranny problems).....engine is a masterpiece in that thing.


32 posted on 08/31/2007 11:14:13 PM PDT by chasio649
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You might be a redneck if you’re still driving the car you were conceived in.


33 posted on 08/31/2007 11:18:10 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: ejonesie22

Those body styles will never go out of style. Classic!


34 posted on 08/31/2007 11:19:19 PM PDT by Timbo64
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

By the time a car gets that old and has that many miles on it the risk of an unexpected breakdown (usually coming at the worst possible time) goes up, no matter how well maintained it is. It’s just not worth it to us. When things start going south on a car, it’s time to sell!


35 posted on 08/31/2007 11:27:30 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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Consumer Reports calls the Honda Civic a "Good bet" to make it to 200,000 miles. Calculating the costs involved in buying a new Honda Civic EX every five years

I bought a brand-new 2006 Civic coupe right after they came out with the body style. The car had fit and finish problems and a ton of rattles. In addition, the steering and front suspension made strange noises. I ended up getting rid of it in disgust. I thought it was a great design, but built poorly. The problems were probably mostly due to it being from an early batch of a new model of car, but I was surprised to see that type of poor quality coming from Honda. I guess that every company has its share of lemons.

36 posted on 08/31/2007 11:31:54 PM PDT by SIDENET (More fun than a beer left in the freezer.)
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I inherited my Mom’s 91 Olds Cierra. It has required one repair, an overdrive sensor switch. 30 MPG on the highway, and I’m not a slow driver. My newest vehicle is a 99 Chevy pickup, and my oldest is a 78 Chevy pickup. The old one still suns good, but the rust is eating it up. When I buy a new vehicle, I’ll pay cash for it and keep it as long as it lasts.


37 posted on 08/31/2007 11:32:00 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I have a 2000 Toyota Tundra 4x4 with 90,000 miles on it. It’s got rock dings, scratches all over it, the clearcoat on the roof is blistering, and it’s more comfortable than an old pair of sneakers. Hasn’t cost me a dime in anything but gas, oil, tires, and a battery. I’ll drive it until it croaks. It still rides like a Lexus sedan.


38 posted on 08/31/2007 11:32:04 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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inherited (sort of) a 2000 chevy cav coupe, only has 49,000 miles on it and as it is my first car I will drive it till it rusts out ahd the shocks break through into the drivers compartment.


39 posted on 08/31/2007 11:32:04 PM PDT by LukeL
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To: LibWhacker

Again, depends on the car and the owner.


40 posted on 08/31/2007 11:33:34 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (I don't use a sarcasm tag, it kills the effect...)
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To: Porterville
Or, buy a new car/pre owned every five years and enjoy your car to the maximum....

My '05 Silverado has convinced me that what you say is true: hassle-free these last two years, something I'm not used to, but a blessing nonetheless.

Funny thing, I'm not as emotionally attached to this truck as others I've had, yet, it keeps on ticking. I do maintainence myself as before, and almost expect to have a problem someday- as I drive a lot.

I'm beginning to think newer is better, especially if you stay within the maintainence parameters. This little half-ton has earned my respect, to say the least.

41 posted on 08/31/2007 11:33:46 PM PDT by budwiesest (Knock on wood, monkeyboy!)
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To: LibWhacker

Again, depends on the car and the owner.


42 posted on 08/31/2007 11:34:23 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (I don't use a sarcasm tag, it kills the effect...)
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To: ansel12
don’t live with an outdated car.

I don't have an airbag waiting to blow up in my face.

43 posted on 08/31/2007 11:34:39 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: Timbo64

They are built like tanks, fun to drive and rock solid dependable if maintained.

The running joke is I’ll be buried in the silver car. It’s my baby...


44 posted on 08/31/2007 11:35:54 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (I don't use a sarcasm tag, it kills the effect...)
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To: ansel12

I can give you a few. Like the fact I have driven my best friend to the BMW dealership 5 times to pick up his 2006 750 in my 1984 733. The 733 has not been rendered in operable in 23 years and 214,000 miles of driving.


45 posted on 08/31/2007 11:38:43 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (I don't use a sarcasm tag, it kills the effect...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Fellow FredHead, I have 247,000 miles and growing by 500 a week. I paid 2200 for it at 205,000 and have spent less than 400 including oil changes. (trying to find wood)


46 posted on 08/31/2007 11:39:20 PM PDT by eyedigress
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To: eyedigress
Oops! forgot the car. :^)


47 posted on 08/31/2007 11:51:23 PM PDT by eyedigress
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
1995 Honda Odyssey 185,000 miles – 3 brake jobs, burns about a quart of oil a month. Still going strong. Got my moneys worth.


48 posted on 09/01/2007 12:01:48 AM PDT by sinclair (The constructs of man often leave matters wished for.)
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To: ejonesie22

Seriously, there is real advancement in many parts of our lives, dishwashers, refrigerators, music systems, televisions (monitors?),microwaves, flashlights, cell phones, etc.

Probably the most concentrated area of technology (including what we can’t see, in passive safety systems etc.) is cars. I’m guessing that the difference between a 1993 Lexus, and a 2008 Lexus would be stupid for a wealthy person to ignore.


49 posted on 09/01/2007 12:02:44 AM PDT by ansel12 (Paranoia, conspiracy, superiority, otherness, pod people "The Invasion" 2007 imdb)
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To: ejonesie22

I hope some day to have a restored BMW 2002 model.


50 posted on 09/01/2007 12:28:22 AM PDT by Timbo64
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