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Justice Department Opens Investigation Of Hsu
Captain's Quarter ^ | 9/1/07

Posted on 09/01/2007 10:51:40 AM PDT by LdSentinal

The Department of Justice has opened an investigation into the fundraising activities of Norman Hsu, the man who put over a million dollars into Democratic coffers while remaining a fugitive con man. They want to find out whether more than just coincidence linked heavy donation activity between Hsu and at least two households of more modest means -- and the answers could prove very embarrassing for top Democrats:

The U.S. Justice Department is investigating possible campaign-finance violations by top Democratic fundraiser Norman Hsu, according to people familiar with the probe. On Friday, Mr. Hsu surrendered to California officials on an unrelated grand-theft charge dating to the early 1990s.

Mr. Hsu, who, until earlier this week was one of the biggest fundraisers for Democratic presidential frontrunner Hillary Rodham Clinton, was booked at the San Mateo County jail, where he was handcuffed and later released on $2 million bail. Wearing a black suit and white shirt, Mr. Hsu rushed to a waiting black Chevy Suburban outside the jail lobby Friday afternoon without answering any questions from reporters.

Mrs. Clinton's campaign declined to comment yesterday. The New York senator, along with other Democrats, has said she would turn over donations received from Mr. Hsu to charity.

But Mr. Hsu's legal woes are a political blow to the many prominent Democrats who accepted his funds, in particular Mrs. Clinton. While there is no sign any of them were aware of Mr. Hsu's actions and prior record, they could be embarrassed by the probe of his fundraising.

It may prove more than just embarrassing. No one can determine where Hsu got his money -- and that's just the cash he personally donated. If the Justice probe shows that he used other people as fronts to move money illegally to Democratic candidates, that will deepen the mystery of the source of Hsu's funds even further.

According to the Wall Street Journal, Hsu fled to China after his fraud conviction. Records show him working for a Hong Kong exporter for the two years after jumping bail. If Hsu turns out to have gotten his funds from international sources hostile to the US, giving the money to charity will do little to restore reputations.

Even just for using fronts like the Paw family, Hsu faces some stiff prison time. In 2002, Congress made such activities criminal, and Hsu could get 5 years and a $250,000 fine on each count. That's federal prison time, where parole doesn't exist and good behavior gets at best a 15% reduction in time served.

If the DoJ finds a foreign source for those funds, Hsu's sentencing will take a back seat to the sentence of the American people on those who took his money without checking him out. This could get very ugly for the Democrats.

UPDATE: You have to give credit to the LA Times. They haven't let up on this case. In today's edition, they demonstrate how easy it would have been to discover the con man behind the shower of cash:

Clinton and her aides said there was little they could have done to protect themselves, but fundraising experts from both parties pointed to warning signs that should have given aides pause. ...

The most obvious red flag: A check of a commonly used database produces a 1990 San Francisco Chronicle news story detailing how Norman Hsu had been kidnapped by gang members in the San Mateo County suburb of Foster City. A second widely used database discloses that Norman Yuan Yuen Hsu of Foster City had a bankruptcy in 1990.

Having established that he lived in San Mateo County, a check of the San Mateo County Superior Court's website reveals that Norman Yuan Yuen Hsu had a criminal case.

The LAT quotes "aides to Clinton" as saying that Hsu never asked any favors and just liked having his picture taken with politicians. Uh, riiiiiiiiiight. And he committed the latex-glove fraud because he likes shaking hands with doctors. I suspect the FBI may have more information on whether Hsu asked for a favor or two every hundred thousand dollars by the time they complete their investigation.

UPDATE II: Gateway Pundit noticed that Hsu's name came up in the 1996 campaign finance scandal involving Charlie Trie and connections to China. It's tangential -- Hsu's name comes up in relation to a donation made to "Friends of Norman Hsu" by Sioeng San Wong. Even tangential, it connects the two scandals, and it could explain the FBI's interest in the case. Good work by Gateway Pundit in digging this one out.

UPDATE III: Commenter Lucky Bogey says GP wasn't the first to make the connection. Check the comments for the links.

Posted by Ed Morrissey on September 1, 2007 7:29 AM



TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; clinton; clinton2008; corruptdems; corruption; democrats; fbi; fundraising; hillary; hillaryscandals; howtostealanelection; hsu; hsunami; phonydonor; tr
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1 posted on 09/01/2007 10:51:42 AM PDT by LdSentinal
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To: LdSentinal

Ruh roh..


2 posted on 09/01/2007 10:53:36 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline—1-866-DHS-2-ICE)
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To: LdSentinal
Democrats & Hsu:
Couture of Corruption

 
3 posted on 09/01/2007 10:54:24 AM PDT by counterpunch ("The Democrats are the party of slavery." - Cindy Sheehan)
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To: NormsRevenge; seanrobins; BurbankKarl; SE Mom; jveritas; AliVeritas; Phsstpok; rodguy911; ...

Oh yeah!


4 posted on 09/01/2007 10:55:11 AM PDT by STARWISE (They (Rats) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: LdSentinal
Run, Hillie, run!

Bwah hah hah hah hah....

5 posted on 09/01/2007 10:55:48 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: NormsRevenge

This has legs!!!


6 posted on 09/01/2007 10:55:57 AM PDT by italianquaker (Obamas "spiritual advisor" , ." On the Sunday after the attacks, Dr. Wright blamed America.)
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To: mewzilla

And that CA jusge is gonna let Hsu out on bail?!


7 posted on 09/01/2007 10:56:28 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: mewzilla

...judge...


8 posted on 09/01/2007 10:56:43 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: LdSentinal

Good. Now can you re-open the one on Sandy Burglar, dammit.


9 posted on 09/01/2007 10:56:46 AM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: NormsRevenge
The DOJ should have their investigation wrapped up by 2012 or so. No worries there.

That'll give all the foreign principals time to leave the country very comfortably.

L

10 posted on 09/01/2007 10:56:46 AM PDT by Lurker ( Comparing moderate islam to extremist islam is like comparing smallpox and ebola.)
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To: Lancey Howard; Enchante; backhoe

PING~~!


11 posted on 09/01/2007 10:56:53 AM PDT by STARWISE (They (Rats) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: LdSentinal

Watch out, children, THEY’RE BAAAAAACK!!!

http://www.investors.com/editorial/cartoon.asp


12 posted on 09/01/2007 10:56:58 AM PDT by Enchante (Reid and Pelosi Defeatocrats: Surrender Now - Peace for Our Time!!)
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To: LdSentinal

Isn’t Chucky Schumer outraged and calling for congressional hearings? We need hearings and we need to demand them.


13 posted on 09/01/2007 10:57:17 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: LdSentinal

Don’t let the little SOB near an airport or a car rental agency or he’ll be gone - just like 121 of Bill Clinton’s
oriental donors.


14 posted on 09/01/2007 10:57:39 AM PDT by HardStarboard (Take No Prisoners - We're Out of Qurans)
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To: STARWISE

This has the potential to be the lid to the Clinton campaign coffin. We’ll wait to see who holds the final nail.


15 posted on 09/01/2007 10:59:48 AM PDT by JesusBmyGod (1 Corinthians 2:5, Jeremiah 29:11-13)
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To: STARWISE

Norman, Is that Hsu 8-?

16 posted on 09/01/2007 11:01:46 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline—1-866-DHS-2-ICE)
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To: STARWISE

http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2007/08/more-bum-news-for-hillary-hsu-named-in.html

The report on the Clinton-Communist China donations scandal is riveting!
Certainly, Hillary does not need anyone to start scouring through this horrid report on the Clinton’s scandalous behavior and it’s obvious that Ben Smith at the Politico never read it.
Here are a couple of items from the report:

Sioeng’s relationship to the Government of the People’s Republic of China has been the subject of press speculation since early 1997.\3\ Based on its own investigation, as discussed more fully elsewhere in the report,\4\ the Committee has learned that Sioeng worked, and perhaps still works, on behalf of the Chinese government.

Sioeng regularly communicated with PRC embassy and consular officials at various locations in the United States, and, before the campaign finance investigation broke, he traveled to Beijing frequently where he reported to and was briefed by Chinese communist party officials...

Contributions to:
Norman Hsu—a $7,500 check was written on Sioeng San Wong’s account to Friends of Norman Hsu on March 11, 1995.90 Hsu is a former president of the Chinese-American Association.

..... [partial list of Sioeng contributions]......

So there you have it.
Hsu was mentioned in the Sioeng-Clinton Chinese Communist Party scandal report.
It makes you wonder what else is out there.
You would think that the Clintons would want to stay away from the Communists in China this go around.
Maybe not.


17 posted on 09/01/2007 11:01:58 AM PDT by Enchante (Reid and Pelosi Defeatocrats: Surrender Now - Peace for Our Time!!)
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To: LdSentinal
UPDATE II: Gateway Pundit noticed that Hsu's name came up in the 1996 campaign finance scandal involving Charlie Trie and connections to China. It's tangential -- Hsu's name comes up in relation to a donation made to "Friends of Norman Hsu" by Sioeng San Wong. Even tangential, it connects the two scandals, and it could explain the FBI's interest in the case. Good work by Gateway Pundit in digging this one out.


18 posted on 09/01/2007 11:01:59 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("I like to legislate. I feel I've done a lot of good." Sen. Robert Byrd)
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To: mewzilla
Bail will likely be paid by some anonymous charity that just lately came into some extra funds.
19 posted on 09/01/2007 11:02:30 AM PDT by michigander (The Constitution only guarantees the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself.)
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To: LdSentinal
Well thank goodness we have a vigilant liberal media that will give this a lot of exposure. /s

They are sharpening their shovels to bury this story as soon as possible.

20 posted on 09/01/2007 11:03:09 AM PDT by Reagan is King (Every immigrant who comes here should be required within five years to learn English or leave.)
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To: LdSentinal
Before folks chase a red herring, the current "Norman Hsu" doesn't seem to be the same "Norman Hsu" Capt. Ed mentions in the 1996 Clintonian scandal. If you read the links the Captain gave and follow the links those provide you end up here showing them to be different. There are still plenty of unaswered questions about the current Hsu and they may still end up with Chicom cash for Clintons, but this apparently isn't the connection. At least the current Hsu didn't escape the country and is presently in prison, although I don't understand why he was even offered bond.
21 posted on 09/01/2007 11:04:49 AM PDT by JohnBovenmyer
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To: nathanbedford
Yep.
22 posted on 09/01/2007 11:05:22 AM PDT by michigander (The Constitution only guarantees the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself.)
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To: Reagan is King
They are sharpening their shovels to bury this story as soon as possible.

Surprisingly, the LA Times is doing exactly opposite. Perhaps they're finally figuring out why their circulation numbers keep plummeting.

23 posted on 09/01/2007 11:05:33 AM PDT by JesusBmyGod (1 Corinthians 2:5, Jeremiah 29:11-13)
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To: LdSentinal

Could Pelosi be connected somehow? Please.,


24 posted on 09/01/2007 11:07:33 AM PDT by eyedigress
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To: STARWISE; backhoe; Fedora; ravingnutter
"Norman Hsu—a $7,500 check was written on Sioeng San Wong’s account to Friends of Norman Hsu on March 11, 1995.90 Hsu is a former president of the Chinese-American Association."

This is not 'tangential' as a couple of bloggers have stated -- this is a record of funds going from an obvious agent of the PRC to Norman Hsu!!!!!!!!! Not that our media will care, but this is the money trail from the PRC to Norman Hsu!!!! "Follow the money" as the saying goes.....
25 posted on 09/01/2007 11:07:49 AM PDT by Enchante (Reid and Pelosi Defeatocrats: Surrender Now - Peace for Our Time!!)
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To: italianquaker
This has legs!!!

Big, fat, cankled ones, to boot!

26 posted on 09/01/2007 11:08:46 AM PDT by digger48
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To: Lurker

“The DOJ should have their investigation wrapped up by 2012 or so. No worries there”

ROTFLMAO !!


27 posted on 09/01/2007 11:09:17 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: JohnBovenmyer
Did not this Hsu flee to Hong Kong for a couple of years after his conviction? I don't see where it is clear that we have 2 Hsus.


28 posted on 09/01/2007 11:10:07 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("I like to legislate. I feel I've done a lot of good." Sen. Robert Byrd)
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To: LdSentinal

Congresswoman Doris Matsui of California was the guest of honor at a luncheon given by Mr. Norman Hsu. The event was held on 06/27/2005 in Manhattan.

http://www.camerarts.com/cgi/store/imageFolio.cgi

29 posted on 09/01/2007 11:10:49 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Enchante

Ooops, cancel my #25, seems to be clear it’s a different Norman Hsu........ too good to be true!!

I suppose the PRC agents would be more careful than that, now wouldn’t they..... but still there may be some intriguing parallels or even connections between Chinagate CLintonista trash and what THIS Norman Hsu has been doing recently with faked donation sources, etc.


30 posted on 09/01/2007 11:11:31 AM PDT by Enchante (Reid and Pelosi Defeatocrats: Surrender Now - Peace for Our Time!!)
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To: LdSentinal

Follow the money.


31 posted on 09/01/2007 11:18:41 AM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Elections have consequences.)
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To: LdSentinal
Repeat after me: Bernard L. Schwartz.

Bernard L. Schwartz.

Bernard L. Schwartz.

Bernard L. Schwartz put Norman Hsu on the Board of Trustees of The New School:

http://www.newschool.edu/administration.html

Bernard L. Schwartz parties down at fundraisers with Norman Hsu:

http://www.creators.com/opinion/robert-novak/will-newt-run.html

A further 109,000 pages at Google listing both their names:

http://www.google.com/search?safe=off&q=%2BBernard+%2BSchwartz++%2BNorman+%2BHsu

And, of course, Bernard L. Schartz taught the Chicoms how to build missiles that could make their way out of the lower atmosphere, giving rise to Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles which could reach the continental United States and anti-satellite missiles which could take out our command and control infrastructure:

http://www.google.com/search?safe=off&q=loral+china+missile

Bernard L. Schartz needs to be hung for treason.

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32 posted on 09/01/2007 11:19:57 AM PDT by KayEyeDoubleDee (const Tag &referenceToConstTag)
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To: counterpunch

You just watch...

They’ll find that Hsu gave $50.00 to some republican and rule that this isn’t a case of democrat corruption after all.

It was bipartisain.


33 posted on 09/01/2007 11:23:54 AM PDT by DoughtyOne ((Victory will never be achieved while defining Conservatism downward, and forsaking its heritage.))
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To: LdSentinal; doug from upland
Maybe Doug from Upland can do something with this song from I think about 1981 Is It You by Lee Ritenour:

Is it Hsu, knocking at my door? Is it my imagination? Is it Hsu, I can`t get off my mind? Is it Hsu, Hsu, Hsu? Is it Hsu, sneaking around my heart? Is it my imagination? Is it Hsu, I can`t get off my mind? Hsu, Hsu, Hsu?
34 posted on 09/01/2007 11:23:59 AM PDT by jobim
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Lowlife Surplus Shop .. we take cash .. let's make a deal!


35 posted on 09/01/2007 11:25:01 AM PDT by STARWISE (They (Rats) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: Lurker
The DOJ should have their investigation wrapped up by 2012 or so. No worries there. That'll give all the foreign principals time to leave the country very comfortably.

Plus -- historically not much has happened to politicians that take illegal money. They just give it back.

36 posted on 09/01/2007 11:26:25 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: STARWISE

I want to know if he is connected to the chinese toy guy that killed himself recently. Selling tainted toys to the US to fund the Dems...hmmm...


37 posted on 09/01/2007 11:27:48 AM PDT by RDTF (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, but Democrats believe every day is April 15th. - Reagan)
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To: NormsRevenge

Widdle ole me ?

;)


38 posted on 09/01/2007 11:28:31 AM PDT by STARWISE (They (Rats) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: LdSentinal
By the time this investigation ends old Hillry the former pardoning co-president will repeat history.
39 posted on 09/01/2007 11:30:49 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Enchante

Here .. per some checking I’ve done .. it’s a bit confusing, as there are TWO Norman Hsu. One is in Hacienda Heights, a school board member and a Republican party contributor.

If you check out those variables in a search, you’ll see. It’s confusing.


40 posted on 09/01/2007 11:30:54 AM PDT by STARWISE (They (Rats) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: Enchante

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0807/Two_Hsus.html


41 posted on 09/01/2007 11:35:17 AM PDT by STARWISE (They (Rats) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: nathanbedford
I don't see where it is clear that we have 2 Hsus.

One right and one left, or in this case two left Hsus.

(Sorry Nathan, couldn't help myself.)

L

42 posted on 09/01/2007 11:39:03 AM PDT by Lurker ( Comparing moderate islam to extremist islam is like comparing smallpox and ebola.)
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To: LdSentinal; doug from upland

Will the judges be Clinton appointed?????.....


43 posted on 09/01/2007 11:39:20 AM PDT by GitmoSailor (AZ Cold War Vet===Fairness Doctrine for TV First!!!!!.....I'Am With Fred)
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To: Enchante

Now even MORE confusing ... as this NORMAN HSU *is* the NY businessman and obvious mega donor .. and NOT the school board member ... and saying the fugitive Hsu was the President of the Chinese-American Association ... argh!!

“Norman Hsu
From SourceWatch

Norman Hsu is a “wealthy New York businessman in the apparel industry”,[1] former president of the Chinese-American Association,[2] and a “major Democratic Party fundraiser”.

Hsu has been described as a “Democratic megadonor and clothing company mogul”[3] and an “apparel magnate with a fat Rolodex”.[4]”

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Norman_Hsu

~~~~~

Which Hsu is which?


44 posted on 09/01/2007 11:45:02 AM PDT by STARWISE (They (Rats) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: JesusBmyGod
Surprisingly, the LA Times is doing exactly opposite.

Not really. I think they're pulling for Obama along with the local Hollywood types.

45 posted on 09/01/2007 11:45:58 AM PDT by Rockitz (This isn't rocket science- Follow the money and you'll find the truth.)
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To: LdSentinal

How long will it be before they find a Republican that received a donation from Hsu!!? Which I have no doubt they will find R’s who recd. money. When it is announced who recd. money it will be a dropped issue. It has to be this way, has to follow this pattern, after all it has worked for .. how many years have the clintons been around... ?

Impossible to believe that the clinton’s group (bill & hillary) did not cover this base!

And no!, I will not give credit to the LA X’s. This fugitive been hanging around far too long.

You can’t tell me they can catch a Republican Senator in a public bathroom, yet can’t find a big time Democrate money fugitive, crook, cheater, voter fraud, lying, all ready wanted, escaped on $2 million bail going back to early 90’s, showing up again as a Democrate donor again in late 90’s,(remember he is already a fugitive), also friend of Trie who is FOB/H in California. Now this same illegal crook is caught again donating to our politics. Well, at least he was arrested, again, but oopsy daisy Hsu is out of jail using his $2 million dollors to buy his out of jail card ........... again!

And the Democrats are concerned about the Iraqi Govt.!!!


46 posted on 09/01/2007 11:47:39 AM PDT by malia (Rush * * Beck * * Free Republic * * and posts & links by SandRat * *)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

Hey, that’s my tagline.


47 posted on 09/01/2007 11:48:45 AM PDT by Rockitz (This isn't rocket science- Follow the money and you'll find the truth.)
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To: Lurker; nathanbedford

. . . . if the Hsu fits . . . .


48 posted on 09/01/2007 11:49:55 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: LdSentinal

Yes, Yes, Yes


49 posted on 09/01/2007 11:50:09 AM PDT by evad
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To: LdSentinal
“and the answers could prove very embarrassing for top Democrats:”

oh, ok! Like the media will cover this with as much vigor as a toe-tapping queer?

50 posted on 09/01/2007 11:50:40 AM PDT by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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