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German Town Wants Its Own Great Pyramid
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 9-2-2007 | Bojan Pancevski

Posted on 09/01/2007 7:06:49 PM PDT by blam

German town wants its own Great Pyramid

By Bojan Pancevski in Berlin, Sunday Telegraph
Last Updated: 12:17am BST 02/09/2007

The pharaohs may have set the standard, but German entrepreneurs are hoping to challenge Egypt's pre-eminence in monumental self-indulgence by building the world's largest pyramid.

The pyramid of tombstones planned at Dessau

They have secured €90,000 (£61,000) in state funding to assess the feasibility of building a 1,600ft tall "Great Pyramid" near the town of Dessau, in the impoverished east German state of Saxony-Anhalt.

Like the original Great Pyramid at Giza in Egypt, this would be a place of burial. But instead of one ruler and his hangers-on, it would come to house the remains of millions of people.

The improbable plan is based on the belief that people will pay to have their ashes encased in the concrete blocks used to construct the monument. Millions of people would have to sign up to make it viable, though if the team behind it is successful, its members will be rich beyond the wildest dreams of even the most ambitious pharaoh.

Jens Thiel, one of the initiators of the project, says that becoming part of what he expects to be the greatest memorial in the world should be affordable to everyone: "Our current estimates are that a burial space in a concrete block will cost up to €700, depending on the size. Outlasting physical existence was reserved for the select few in Egypt, but this pyramid will be open to everyone. No one should be denied a place just because they can't afford it."

The blocks are expected to be up to one cubic metre in size and, given that the volume of the completed pyramid is likely to be in excess of 40 million cubic metres, it could ultimately bring in £13.2 billion.

The completed pyramid would dwarf the Great Pyramid at Giza in Egypt, which, at about 432ft, was built as the last resting place of Pharaoh Cheops and his entourage.

Mr Thiel, an economist, teamed up with local artists and engineers to secure state funding for the development of the idea, while the rest of the money is expected to come from private investors.

The Weimar Bauhaus University has confirmed the technical feasibility of the project, and its backers are inviting architectural proposals. The international jury to select the final concept will be headed by the Dutch architect Rem Koolhaas and construction work is pencilled in to start next year.

Hundreds of people from around the world are said to have reserved a place in the memorial, which is being marketed as a "monument for all of us" and a "tomb for all people". A decorated custom memorial stone is available for those willing to pay extra.

The pyramid team expects Dessau to attract churches and other spiritual organisations, as well as visitors from around the world viewing their future grave, paying respects to loved ones, or just admiring the project.

Giza's Great Pyramid is said to have taken 20 years to build. With blocks expected to be added only as they are paid for, this one may take longer. According to Mr Thiel, the pyramid is unlikely to be much higher than 150 metres (492 ft) within two decades. "It is an open-end project that will develop perpetually, and that is the beauty of it," he said.


TOPICS: Germany; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: architecture; german; great; pyramid; town

1 posted on 09/01/2007 7:06:53 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
Dessau - home of the Bauhaus. I don't know if that's less is more architecture.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

2 posted on 09/01/2007 7:08:15 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: blam
Das Gebäude von Original Bauhaus - Dessau:


Original Bauhaus Building - Dessau

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

3 posted on 09/01/2007 7:15:34 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

In light of minimalism, shall the 1600 ft tall pyramid be three sided?


4 posted on 09/01/2007 7:17:36 PM PDT by Cvengr (The violence of evil is met with the violence of righteousness, justice, love and grace.)
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To: blam
Bauhaus Bauen des Eingangs in Dessau:


Bauhaus Building Entrance In Dessau

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

5 posted on 09/01/2007 7:18:32 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Cvengr
Its an interesting question that would challenge the German founders of architectural minimalism.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

6 posted on 09/01/2007 7:19:52 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

More minimal might be a cone,..no a pole (or a Czech)?


7 posted on 09/01/2007 7:24:02 PM PDT by Cvengr (The violence of evil is met with the violence of righteousness, justice, love and grace.)
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To: blam

As my Yiddishe Grandma would have said:

“From dis dey make a livink?”


8 posted on 09/01/2007 7:28:38 PM PDT by Maceman
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To: Cvengr
You've just reminded me we Americans beat the Germans to it already. In Long Beach, California, the CSULB 49ers sports hall is called The Pyramid:


Walter Pyramid In Long Beach, California

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

9 posted on 09/01/2007 7:31:58 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: blam

As crazy as this thing sounds, it might actually work.

Are the remains to be encapsulated in concrete, or their ashes used as part of the concrete?

If the latter, the thing will last a LONG time.


10 posted on 09/01/2007 7:33:51 PM PDT by patton (Congress would lose money running a brothel.)
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To: blam; Clemenza; darkangel82; JohnnyZ; Kuksool; Clintonfatigued

Gives new meaning to the phrase “pyramid scheme.”


11 posted on 09/01/2007 7:39:37 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: blam

12 posted on 09/01/2007 7:39:54 PM PDT by Larry Lucido (Hunter 2008)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Argh, you beat me to the punch line! :-)


13 posted on 09/01/2007 7:44:51 PM PDT by Liberty1970
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To: blam
The pharaohs may have set the standard, but German entrepreneurs are hoping to challenge Egypt's pre-eminence in monumental self-indulgence by building the world's largest pyramid.

And so be a cheap copy of the original. This kind of thinking annoys me. If you want to build a great mausoleum fine, but design your own style rather then ripping off someone else's idea.

Is there no artistic pride, no spark of creativity in this town?

14 posted on 09/01/2007 7:45:56 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (A good marriage is like a casserole, only those responsible for it really know what goes into it.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; Atlantic Bridge

This is preposterous! There are so many more useful things that could be done with the money.


15 posted on 09/01/2007 7:54:11 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Illegal aliens commit crimes that Americans won't commit)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Wait - people are willing to pay $1400 each to become part of a concrete block, that will be used to create a great pyramid...

And you don’t find that creative?

I think it is capatilism at its finest.

Frankly, I am going to steal the idea.


16 posted on 09/01/2007 8:07:00 PM PDT by patton (Congress would lose money running a brothel.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
"If you want to build a great mausoleum fine, but design your own style rather then ripping off someone else's idea. "

Who copied whom?

Voyages Of The Pyramid Builders

"The great pyramids of Egypt provide a wonderful glimpse of the artistry, skill and imagination of the ancient world. But pyramids can be found in India, China, Peru, Bolivia, Mexico and Ireland. In this provocative book, geologist Schoch (noted for his work in redating the Sphinx, which was recounted in his Voices of the Rocks) wonders how so many diverse cultures built such similar structures with similar purposes. Using geological, linguistic and geographical evidence, he contends that a protocivilization of pyramid-building peoples was driven out of its homeland, the Sundaland, which geologists believe connected Southeast Asia with Indonesia, by a rise in sea level caused by comet activity between 6000 and 4000 B.C. Fleeing their homeland, these peoples took their knowledge of pyramid building with them into Sumeria, Mesopotamia, Egypt, China and Peru. "

There are more pyramids in Mexico that all the rest of the world combined.

The pyramid at Caral, Peru could be the oldest pyramid in the world.

17 posted on 09/01/2007 8:10:46 PM PDT by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: goldstategop

I got it, I got it!

We build a castle, and charge people to become part of it! In stead of being built on their backs, it will be built with their backs...

I know the whole idea is crazy, but I can sell it...


18 posted on 09/01/2007 8:13:32 PM PDT by patton (Congress would lose money running a brothel.)
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To: patton
If it was any other form but a pyramid then yes.

As it is no.

Frankly, I am going to steal the idea.

Make a ziggurat, a column, a wall, a tower or something like that. Other wise they will sue you for copyright infringement.

19 posted on 09/01/2007 8:14:07 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (A good marriage is like a casserole, only those responsible for it really know what goes into it.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

See #18...if I can’t OWN a castle, I will BE a castle...

LOL.

Goofy, but actually, it could sell.


20 posted on 09/01/2007 8:16:46 PM PDT by patton (Congress would lose money running a brothel.)
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To: blam
1.)Ziggurats are not pyramids.

2.)They said that they were ripping off the idea from the Egyptians.

3.) Germany is not in South East Asia.

21 posted on 09/01/2007 8:17:08 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (A good marriage is like a casserole, only those responsible for it really know what goes into it.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

How about, eg, for a mere $1500, I arrange to have your remains permanently entombed in Heidelburg castle, with all the German emporers (actually, Palantine Princes).

Would that resting place be worth $1500 to ye, now?


22 posted on 09/01/2007 8:20:52 PM PDT by patton (Congress would lose money running a brothel.)
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To: patton
Actually that would be kind of cool! A castle would be far more in keeping with German traditions and culture.

But I am going to be recycled and cremated.

23 posted on 09/01/2007 8:23:51 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (A good marriage is like a casserole, only those responsible for it really know what goes into it.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

See, that is the thing, now.

Cremation creates ash.

Ash is an ingredient of concrete - the denser, the better. That is why the coluseum is still standing - the romans used volcanic ash.

You wish to be recycled? OK, I can do that, I will recycle you as a brick (stone, actually), in the reconstruction of Heidelburg.

And all for a mere $1500, less than the cost of a burial plot.

Think of your loved ones - the trip to Europe, the dining in, the funeral, the Altstadt - and no graveside maintence fees, ever!

The City of Heidelburg protect that tourist trap like you would never believe.

Would it be worth it, to you? Two be recycled as a stone in the world’s most famous castle?

In the world’s most romantic city?

For a mere $1500 dollars?


24 posted on 09/01/2007 8:34:50 PM PDT by patton (Congress would lose money running a brothel.)
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To: goldstategop

Mies van der Rohe once got on his wife’s bad side. He spent weeks in the bauauhaus.


25 posted on 09/02/2007 6:14:54 AM PDT by Erasmus (My simplifying explanation had the disconcerting side effect of making the subject incomprehensible.)
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To: blam

26 posted on 09/05/2007 12:46:56 PM PDT by redstates4ever
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