Skip to comments.Why Duncan Hunter Won the (Texas) Straw Poll - If You Build it, They Will Vote
Posted on 09/01/2007 11:18:33 PM PDT by anymouse
The Texas Straw Poll is one for the history books. The failure of the legislature to move up the Texas primary date, the scheduling of the event on Labor Day weekend and the first day of dove-hunting season, the limiting of participants to past convention delegates rather than Republican primary voters, and the lack of participation by the leading candidates all contributed to an extremely low turnout.
The event ended up being a showcase for Texas Congressman Ron Paul and California Congressman Duncan Hunter. Expectations were high for Ron Paul, and no doubt his supporters are disappointed by his third place showing. But Duncan Hunter, despite his lack of standing in the polls, gave an inspiring speech. And the fact that he took on the border problem in San Diego, got a wall built on the border to stem the tide of illegal immigrants, and was instrumental in the Secure Fence Border Act (which has yet to be implemented) made him a favorite with the grassroots of Texas. Here in Texas, the immigration issue rules. Memo to the other candidates: If you want to fire up the base, commit to securing our borders and our ports. Ordinary Americans are concerned about our national security. Congressman Hunter is right on this issue, and if he had the funding and the organization, he would go far. He also focused on the war on terror and the trade imbalance with China. The fact that China continues to capitalize on the trade imbalance and invests so heavily in military buildup is another national security issue, and one that needs to be addressed.
It is always good theater to attend a political event such as this, and the speeches of all five of the candidates were interesting. The fact that Senator Fred Thompson came in second and, since he is not yet an official candidate, did absolutely nothing to try to win this straw poll, demonstrates his undeniable appeal to the party faithful. And I would recommend that, as he officially launches his candidacy, he follow the example of Congressman Duncan Hunter and be a strong proponent of the Secure Fence Act. Those who say it will only be climbed over or tunneled under are missing the point. We have to close our borders, and a wall is the starting point. No system is perfect, but we must do something. It has helped curb terrorism in Israel, and it will help slow the illegal traffic of both humans, drugs, and terrorists into the United States. Just ask Duncan Hunter. It has worked in San Diego. And if you build it, Republicans will turn out to vote..
Denise McNamara Republican National Committee Texas
Fred Thompson will be the next president of the United States.
I agree. President Fred Thompson. Everyone else is backing a loser.
And if you don't, they won't.
(Just ask Speaker Pelosi...)
No doubt that Duncan Hunter is a good man, even an admirable one, and the devotion that some folks have for him is laudable. Loyalty is a good thing.
But anyone who is thinking that there is a snowball’s chance in hedoubleell that he can get the nomination is simply indulging a delusion.
And anyone who defends such a delusion with vigor is SERIOUSLY delusional.
Even Duncan Hunter’s own campaign manager reckons Hunter hasn’t got a chance.
Actually it was the campaign’s Director of Communications, Roy Tyler, and here’s the quote:
“The chances of Hunter winning the candidacy are about as good as pushing a string through a maze.”
“The fact that Senator Fred Thompson came in second and, since he is not yet an official candidate, did absolutely nothing to try to win this straw poll, demonstrates his undeniable appeal to the party faithful.”
That is pretty powerful.
The fact is that I love both Hunter and Fred.
Your cocky remarks don’t make your opinions true.
Hunter won’t win the nomination.
Hopefully some far-sighted new President will appoint Hunter to be DHS.
That’s where my hopes lie.
He was quoting someone else.
The GOP and elected Republicans in Texas need to quit ignoring the planks set forth by the party in Texas.
Too many RINOs spoil the leadership.
Thompson-Hunter 2008, the anti-Hunter S. Thompson.
Excellent point! ;o)
I have spoken with the person he quoted.
I have also seen both Hunter and Thompson together
and though Thompson is a good guy, Hunter has far more background and experience than the others running.
If folks want to brag up their candidate, fine.
Trashing the most qualified person doesn’t say much for your guy.
Sorry, but this was presented in the story as a direct quote from Roy Tyler:
“A presidential hopeful spoke to the campus community about border security Wednesday despite a lack of confidence from his campaign.
“Roy Tyler, campaign director of communication for Duncan Hunter, said the chances of Hunter winning the candidacy were about as good ‘as pushing a string through a maze.’”
Now, you seem to be saying that Roy Tyler was quoting someone else. At least as this is article is written, Tyler pretty much takes ownership of the quote himself.
Pretty ironic coming from a Hunter supporter. About 85% of Hunterite posts are direct trashing of Fred Thompson.
I have personally NEVER trashed Hunter. I take some delight in tweaking his supporters who seem to harbor the notion that he can actually win, but that's another kettle of fish entirely.
You should have pinged her to this quote.
I thought you were quoting someone else.
SoCalPol...I love Duncan Hunter.
My husband was a Navy pilot in a shortly later era...however still Viet Nam.
He’s a great man, and hopefully will be a great SecDef.
One thing I would like to ask of you is that you don’t insult those of us who like Hunter, but disagree that he is electable.
Duncan is my choice.
My buddy is a Romney man.
We had a pool tournament today and my buddy placed a bet that I would get smoked.
He lost due to my competition scratching on the 8 ball twice.
Duncan reminds me of Alan Keyes.
Good man but not a chance.
Stupid media is all Romney and my buddy gets all jazzed.
I’ll have to bring up the point about him losing 10 bucks on a game he thought was a shoe in next time MSM cackles about Mr. wonderful Romney.
” About 85% of Hunterite posts are direct trashing of Fred Thompson.”
I totally agree!
Then, there are the Romney people...lol
Maybe we should tie a Rat to the string.
It’s so good to see you. ;o)
I absolutely LOVE your analogies. lol
Other folks should take them to heart, too.
They are profound.
You take GOOD care of you. ;o)
Great idea Dix.
The only way I can see politcal peace under our roof is a Romney/Hunter ticket.
I know I know when hell freezes over.
I don’t see any other Republicans running or to run that can win.
Today’s society is far more liberal than four years ago.
Many people on FR live in small towns or homogeneous
areas and are wishful thinkers.
I hope a conservative can win but am facing reality
It’s still early, despite what those “in the know” tell ya’.
Don’t give up, or give in, yet.
It ain’t over ‘til it’s over.
But...yeah...I don’t think a Romney/Hunter ticket is “doable”.
And anyone who defends such a delusion with vigor is SERIOUSLY delusional."
So if you were Hunter how would you go about building name recognition for future runs, or perhaps to put yourself into consideration for the VP slot on the ticket?
I like it, but I posed this ironic teaming months ago.
IMO, given that he's in CA, there's not much that he can do,
except be appointed to a high office like SecDef.
I'd love to see that!
Then let him stick his nads in the arena instead if hiding. I tire of this "maybe" crap. Hunter is putting his neck on the debates like a fighter and from a conservative point of view .. he is smelling like a rose... Time Fred did the same.
Right on, Dixie!
His "nads" as you so "eloquently", "delicately"...POLITELY...termed it, have been in the arena for a long time.
Just not on YOUR timetable.
Personally, I'm tired of folks like you.
Bump you, and sing for freedom some more!
Lord, THEY might kill each other! We definitely don’t need that!
I’ve seen it happen to many times, locally and nationally.
Actually, I like it. The only problem I can see is both of them have such strong California ties. Would that make it hard for them to draw votes from some other parts of the country?
After reading all the âdiscussionâ I call for a Hunter - Thomson debate. A real debate, media asking questions, maybe the public, with a reasonable time limit for each candidate to state their position and rebut.
As I have posted on other threads, I was there, literally, been there, done that and got the t-shirt.
First ever Texas straw poll, and Denise pegs it, this lead balloon fell over when legislature failed to move the primary. Big we are, but by the time we hold an election, the Republican candidate will have been annointed.
Anyone thinking this is a measure of Texas Republican opinion is deluded. Mind you, I met Duncan Fri. very impressive, but with this turnout, any delegate with a bit of patience could meet any candidate who showed.
It was not a total waste for me, I got to grip & grin with old allies and worthy opponents from Rules committee, sort of feel out the waters amongst the true political junkies, only 1,300 showed out of about 30,000 eligible
One surprise was the degree of support Ron Paul had with the old Make-us-a-caucus-state and adopt-by-reference-the-King-James-New-Testament-as-Platform hard core religious right. Also, if you get the chance to hear a who-dat candidate from Georgia, Ray McKinney, he makes Hunter look like an odds on favorite, but gives a really great speech. He ain’t Alan Keyes, but really good, it wouldn’t hurt a real candidate to study Ray’s game tapes.
Fun, but “sound and fury, signifying nothing”, to quote the Bard.
Let me say once again, that I have no problem with Duncan Hunter. I have no problem that he is running. He adds a lot to the campaign. I have no problem with the way he is running, either.
I’d be extraordinarily pleased if Hunter could start getting some traction. It would help all conservatives as it would help get the conservative message out. Even though I still don’t think it will happen, I wish him well.
Catch up with the news.
Just as a point of research, does anyone have a handle where the Bushbot vote on FR, at this point at least, tends to be bunching up? Are most of the BB’s going for Rudy? Romney? Fred Thompson? I am curious about this one and any fellow Freeper who might have a good hand it on would be appreciated if he or she could give some updates.
That’s really not very nice of you to call the other candidates losers.
Are you sure about those statistics? Where did you get that stat? Is it trashing, or are perhaps some of them just fact-based comparatives between the two candidates? Now is the time to compare and contrast and to do the vetting. My telling you " I told you so" 2 years from now isn't going to help any of us.
“And anyone who defends such a delusion with vigor is SERIOUSLY delusional.”
I’m praying Hunter will win because he’s the only real conservative running for president (including Thompson). Well, I’d say Tancredo is a true conservative but he really has no chance. It looks like Hunter wont get the nomination, I’m not delusional, but if he doesn’t, I wont have anyone to vote for.
I think that’s where a lot of us Hunter supporters stand. We’re tired of being burned by establishment rinos like Thompson and will simply not vote for another one. I don’t care how many times I’m called stupid or accused of giving the election to the RATS. If we stay home, and Hitlery becomes president, those people who nominated another tired DC elitist are to blame.
“Trashing the most qualified person doesnt say much for your guy.”
“Pretty ironic coming from a Hunter supporter. About 85% of Hunterite posts are direct trashing of Fred Thompson.”
But when hunter supporters trash Thompson, they’re not trashing the “most qualified person” so it’s not quite so ironic.
You "purists" can try to wash your hands of any responsibility for potentially electing Clinton if you stay home, but the truth is that you are just don't understand the sausage-making that is politics.
“Just as a point of research, does anyone have a handle where the Bushbot vote on FR, at this point at least, tends to be bunching up? Are most of the BBs going for Rudy? Romney? Fred Thompson? I am curious about this one and any fellow Freeper who might have a good hand it on would be appreciated if he or she could give some updates.”
Without a doubt, IMO....they’re with Fred Thompson.
Excellent post, delighted to see Hunter win it, and yes, Fred will be the next President.
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