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Bark worse for blight: Forest Service to hound beetles
Rocky Mountain News ^ | September 1, 2007 | Jerd Smith

Posted on 09/02/2007 7:28:52 AM PDT by george76

Tree-thinning to begin in fall in Colorado, Wyo.

The U.S. Forest Service is launching a major effort to battle bark beetles across an 80,000-acre swath of Colorado and Wyoming, its largest assault to date on the fire-prone forests.

The plan, announced Friday, calls for thinning and tree removal in five Colorado counties and two in Wyoming. The program, aided by $8 million in new federal funding, relies on partnerships between the federal agency and the mountain counties where rust-red trees are causing the most danger to humans.

Mary Ann Chandler, a Forest Service spokeswoman, said the agency has structured the work just as it does when a fire is burning, with an incident-management team to oversee the ramp-up in work.

This fall, the Forest Service and its partners will begin work on wooded areas where environmental permits are in place. No wilderness or roadless areas will be involved...

(Excerpt) Read more at rockymountainnews.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Colorado; US: Wyoming
KEYWORDS: barkbeetles; beetles; blm; corruption; forestservice; logging; pests; usfs; wildfires

1 posted on 09/02/2007 7:28:53 AM PDT by george76
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To: george76

-—thi would be fun to watch if it weren’t going to involve taxpayer funds-—


2 posted on 09/02/2007 7:30:50 AM PDT by rellimpank (-don't believe anything the MSM states about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
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To: george76

AHH another boondoggle brought to you by the US Forest Service or as we call it here - A Mongolian Cluster F)$K.


3 posted on 09/02/2007 7:32:46 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Republican DOES NOT equal Conservative!)
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To: george76

The cicadas here in Northern VA are getting on my nerves. I am getting ready to torch some trees.


4 posted on 09/02/2007 7:47:43 AM PDT by Perdogg (Cheney for President 2008)
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To: george76

Give the enviros a few weeks to regroup from wherever they are causing damage and suffering today. They’ll be along shortly to get a court order to put a stop to this and any other kind of science-based forest management.


5 posted on 09/02/2007 8:26:36 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (When toilet paper is a luxury, you have achieved communism.)
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To: george76

Finally, when the problem of dying trees reached Aspen, and other liberal conclaves, some attention is being given to it.

Too bad we can’t use DDT, Colorado is quite likely to lose more than half of it’s tres in the coming years.


6 posted on 09/02/2007 9:18:21 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: george76

>This fall, the Forest Service and its partners will begin work on wooded areas where environmental permits are in place. No wilderness or roadless areas will be involved...<

In other words, they don’t want to do it but are being forced to. Let the wilderness and roadless areas burn. That will stop the spread of bark beetles ....... for two seasons.


7 posted on 09/02/2007 9:25:38 AM PDT by B4Ranch ("Freedom is not free, but don't worry the U.S. Marine Corps will pay most of your share.")
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To: B4Ranch; forester; Grampa Dave; Carry_Okie

The eco-nuts are trying to give themselves some political cover as the forest fires explode everywhere.

The nuts have been fighting this ‘logging’ full time for decades.

They now change the name from logging to removing bio mass...


8 posted on 09/02/2007 9:39:27 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

>They now change the name from logging to removing bio mass...<

It’s going to be a real laugh, 30 years from now, when we complete the circle of learning to find that we never should have stopped logging or shut down the saw mills.


9 posted on 09/02/2007 9:43:20 AM PDT by B4Ranch ("Freedom is not free, but don't worry the U.S. Marine Corps will pay most of your share.")
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I’ve given up on expecting intelligence from the Forest Service. They don’t spray when they need to, so bark beetles convert millions of acres of land into firewood. Instead of cutting temporary roads into the firewood, so people can go in and harvest it, they let it sit and wait for a lightning strike. Lightning strikes, or careless humans happen, and they scramble to put out the fires that end up destroying millions of more acres of forest. Then, instead of cutting temporary roads to let people in to harvest the burnt wood for firewood, they come with a restoration policy, giving the land a chance to recuperate, and then once it is recuperated a little, they decide to start thinning and allow firewood cutting, so people can trample back over the recuperated forest, and so on. Let the firewood cutters, the thinners and loggers in as soon as the bark beetles or fires do there damage, and the overall damage will be greatly reduced. The people who want to utilize the woods are doing everyone a huge favor.


10 posted on 09/02/2007 9:45:00 AM PDT by pallis
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To: B4Ranch
It’s going to be a real laugh, 30 years from now, when we complete the circle of learning to find that we never should have stopped logging or shut down the saw mills.

No problem, with those sawmills long gone, the real goal will have been met: consolidating production into the hands of the corporate aristocracy.

11 posted on 09/02/2007 9:45:18 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The fourth estate is the fifth column.)
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To: pallis

The forest service could make money by allowing loggers to do the work.

Now the taxpayers get to pay millions instead...


12 posted on 09/02/2007 9:51:31 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Carry_Okie

Or the BLM.


13 posted on 09/02/2007 10:28:03 AM PDT by B4Ranch ("Freedom is not free, but don't worry the U.S. Marine Corps will pay most of your share.")
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To: B4Ranch

I really don’t think so. This is about using regulation to make money for those holding notes against the assets of the US government. When they want that resource productivity back (after they’re done raping it abroad) and can take advantage of regulatory oligopoly, they’ll do it.


14 posted on 09/02/2007 10:41:58 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The fourth estate is the fifth column.)
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To: george76
"The work is going to be very strategic," Severson said, "with priorities being to protect human life, public infrastructure and very critical watersheds."

I have lived in Colorado for over 30 years, and the beetle fight has been going on at least that long. This is nothing new.

We have lots to learn about forest management. We have not been at it all that long. It takes a long time, maybe a life time, to evaluate the impact of a government policy on a forest. I am not a rabid environmentalist, but I do not believe that the 50s log-it-all is the right answer nor do I believe that let-it-burn should be the policy. The answer is probably between the two...but we don't have enough data to know what the right balance is...not yet.
15 posted on 09/02/2007 11:04:34 AM PDT by goldfinch
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To: Carry_Okie

By then we’d probably need a permit from the UN to cut a tree.


16 posted on 09/02/2007 11:14:32 AM PDT by B4Ranch ("Freedom is not free, but don't worry the U.S. Marine Corps will pay most of your share.")
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By then we’d probably need a permit from the UN to cut a tree.

The favored corporate weasel wouldn't have any trouble getting one.

17 posted on 09/02/2007 11:20:38 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The fourth estate is the fifth column.)
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To: goldfinch

Foresters with graduate degrees, a life time of real world experiences, and their passion for a healthy forest should make these decisions.

Instead the final decisions are made by Sierra Club lawyers who find friendly judges who over-rule science and scientists. The lawyers make big fees for themselves even if the forests are destroyed.

These massive fires cause air pollution, water pollution, and soil destruction. The ash kills fish, frogs...because they need oxygen in the water to breathe. Lots of other wildlife is killed by the fires too.

The organism in the soil are destroyed by the long, high temperatures...


18 posted on 09/02/2007 11:50:44 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76
[These massive fires cause air pollution, water pollution, and soil destruction.]
 
Fire is part of the natural forest cycle. 
The seeds of many plant species require fire in order to be released and sprout.

19 posted on 09/04/2007 10:33:13 AM PDT by VxH (One if by Land, Two if by Sea, and Three if by Wire Transfer)
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To: george76
The plan, announced Friday, calls for thinning and tree removal in five Colorado counties and two in Wyoming.

Gosh, that sounds a lot like logging, you bloomin' morons! Only, now, we can pay many times more in taxes than what professional loggers could have done it for.

Environmentalists drive me up a wall.

20 posted on 09/04/2007 10:35:35 AM PDT by TChris (Has anyone under Mitt Romney's leadership ever been worse off because he is Mormon?)
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To: VxH

The Forest Service has developed a five-year plan to combat the infestation, but officials acknowledge the work and the new money will reach only a very small part of the 755,000 acres at risk.

Chandler said the agency hopes to secure another $6.2 million for additional work next year.

Because resources are slim, the Forest Service is carefully choosing the most at-risk areas to protect.

“The work is going to be very strategic,” Severson said, “with priorities being to protect human life, public infrastructure and very critical watersheds.”


21 posted on 09/04/2007 12:34:45 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76
[five-year plan]

five-year plan? Hmmm where have I heard that before?

Pages from the Soviet Department of Forestry’s manual?

The Forest Service is a bureaucratic joke.

22 posted on 09/04/2007 12:42:28 PM PDT by VxH (One if by Land, Two if by Sea, and Three if by Wire Transfer)
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