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Treason at the Kos? (Report: U.S. Navy Officer in Theater Leaks Iran Attack Details to Kos Diarist)
MacsMind.com ^ | Sunday, Sepember 2, 2007 | Macranger

Posted on 09/02/2007 1:09:49 PM PDT by kristinn

This might just be another BS moment at the Kos - they’ve had so many of them I’ve lost count. But if this is legit we just had a serious breach of national security.

“I have a friend who is an LSO on a carrier attack group that is planning and staging a strike group deployment into the Gulf of Hormuz. (LSO: Landing Signal Officer- she directs carrier aircraft while landing) She told me we are going to attack Iran. She said that all the Air Operation Planning and Asset Tasking are finished. That means that all the targets have been chosen, prioritized, and tasked to specific aircraft, bases, carriers, missile cruisers and so forth.

I asked her why she is telling me this.Her answer was really amazing. ….”I know this will sound crazy coming from a Naval officer”, she said. “But we’re all just waiting for this administration to end. Things that happen at the senior officer level seem more and more to happen outside of the purview of XOs and other officers who typically have a say-so in daily combat and flight operations. Today, orders just come down from the mountaintop and there’s no questioning. In fact, there is no discussing it. I have seen more than one senior commander disappear and then three weeks later we find out that he has been replaced. That’s really weird. It’s also really weird because everyone who has disappeared has questioned whether or not we should be staging a massive attack on Iran.”"We’re not stupid. Most of the members of the fleet read well enough to know what is going on world-wise. We also realize that anyone who has any doubts is in danger of having a long military career yanked out from under them. Keep in mind that most of the people I serve with are happy to be a part of the global war on terror. It’s just that the touch points are what we see since we are the ones out here who are supposedly implementing this grand strategy. But when you liason with administration officials who don’t know that Iranians don’t speak Arabic and have no idea what Iranians live like, then you start having second thoughts about whether these Administration officials are even competent.”

(So much for the “apolitical” moniker)

“I asked her about the attack, how limited and so forth.

“I don’t think it’s limited at all. We are shipping in and assigning every damn Tomahawk we have in inventory. I think this is going to be massive and sudden, like thousands of targets. I believe that no American will know when it happens until after it happens. And whatever the consequences, whatever the consequences, they will have to be lived with. I am sure if my father knew I was telling someone in a news organization that we were about to launch a supposedly secret attack that it would be treason. But something inside me tells me to tell it anyway.”

I asked her why she was suddenly so cynical.

“I have become cynical only recently. I also don’t believe anyone will be able to stop this. Bush has become something of an Emperor. He will give the command, and cruise missiles will fly and aircraft will fly and people will die, and yet few of us here are really able to cobble together a great explanation of why this is a good idea. Of course many of us can give you the 4H Club lecture on democracy in the Mid East. But if you asked any of the flight officers whether they have a clear idea of what the goal of this strike is, your answer would sound like something out of a think tank policy paper. But it’s not like Kosovo or when we relieved the tsunami victims. There everyone could tell you in a sentence what we were here doing.”

“That’s what’s missing. A real sense of purpose. What’s missing is the answer to what the hell are we doing out here threatening this country with all this power? Last night in the galley, an ensign asked what right do we have to tell a sovereign nation that they can’t build a nuke. I mean the table got EF Hutton quiet. Not so much because the man was asking a question that was off culture. But that he was asking a good question. In fact, the discussion actually followed afterwards topside where someone in our group had to smoke a cigarette. The discussion was intelligent but also in lowered voices. It’s like we aren’t allowed to ask the questions that we always ask before combat. It’s almost as if the average seaman or soldier is doing all the policy work.”

She had to hang up. She left by telling me that she believes the attack is a done deal. “It’s only a matter of time before their orders come and they will be sent to station and told to go to Red Alert. She said they were already practicing traps, FARP and FAST.” (Trapping is the act of catching the tension wires when landing on the carrier, FARP is Fleet Air Combat Maneuvering Readiness Program- practice dogfighting- and FAST is Fleet Air Superiority Training).

She seemed lost. The first time in my life I have ever heard her sound off rhythm, or unsure of why she is doing something. She knows that there is something rotten in the Naval Command and she, like many of her associates are just hoping that the election brings in someone new, some new situation, or something.

“Yes. We’re gong to hit Iran, bigtime. Whatever political discussion that are going in is window dressing and perhaps even a red herring. I see what’s going on below deck here in the hangars and weapons bays. And I have a sick feeling about how it’s all going to turn out.”

I passed this post on to the ONI AG - Office of Naval Intelligence AG to have a look-see and see if they can find this young lady - if she exists and have a chat. An active duty officer on a ship preparing for operations giving out the op plans to said operation is called - treason.

Again, considering the source (Kos), buyer beware, but if true the poster who goes by the name “Maccabee” - will be having some visitors.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: iran; iraq; islam; israel; kos; leaks; marines
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There are over 1200 comments posted to the Kos thread on this bit o' treason.

Whether the report by the Kos poster, screen name Maccabee, is accurate is something that needs to be investigated by the Navy ASAP. If true, hopefully they'll keelhaul the traitor before bringing her back home for trial.

1 posted on 09/02/2007 1:09:53 PM PDT by kristinn
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To: kristinn
This might be another BS moment at the kos

Or disinformation spread be an useful idiot.

2 posted on 09/02/2007 1:12:04 PM PDT by Vigilantcitizen
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To: kristinn
I saw this posted on the Seattle PI's forums. My response was:

I'm going to take a lesson from Baghdad Diarist Army Private Scott Thomas Beauchamp and wait until I have a little more proof than a random person claims to know somebody "who is an LSO on a carrier attack group that is planning and staging a strike group deployment into the Gulf of Hormuz" that a strike against Iran is imminent
3 posted on 09/02/2007 1:12:25 PM PDT by SoldierMedic (Rowan Walter, 23 Feb 2007 Ramadi)
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To: kristinn

*Military leaks..? Media treason..?
Sounds like the plot line of this new novel— http://anonymoussedition.com/


4 posted on 09/02/2007 1:15:10 PM PDT by Shqipo
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To: kristinn

treason


5 posted on 09/02/2007 1:15:13 PM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: AliVeritas

Saw you’re comment on the Sunday talk show thread. Thanks for finding this.


6 posted on 09/02/2007 1:16:31 PM PDT by kristinn
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To: kristinn

All ‘LSO’ types in the mideast had better cover their $ss:-()


7 posted on 09/02/2007 1:16:38 PM PDT by geo40xyz ((Born a democRAT, Dad set me free in 1952: He said that I was not required to be a MF'ing democRAT))
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To: kristinn
No doubt the DBM will use it this week... referred to as ‘the buzz’... or ‘anonymous sources’...
8 posted on 09/02/2007 1:17:55 PM PDT by johnny7 ("But that one on the far left... he had crazy eyes")
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To: kristinn

I hear we’re gonna hit 1200 targets at the same time,at least that’s what I read in the old media.


9 posted on 09/02/2007 1:18:02 PM PDT by mdittmar (May God watch over those who serve,and have served,to keep us free)
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To: kristinn; SandRat; LUV W; gpapa; Kathy in Alaska; Lancey Howard; Enchante; Grampa Dave; ...

I just mailed you and JR about that .. wasn’t sure if it was OK to post.

SO glad it’s OK ... it’s outrageous!! Somebody needs to get her and seditious comrades off that ship NOW!!


10 posted on 09/02/2007 1:20:44 PM PDT by STARWISE (They (Rats) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: kristinn
But when you liason with administration officials who don’t know that Iranians don’t speak Arabic and have no idea what Iranians live like...

There's one problem with this report.

11 posted on 09/02/2007 1:20:49 PM PDT by decimon
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To: kristinn

“Is this BS? Please check yes or no”

YES: check
NO :

“Bush has become something of an Emperor. He will give the command, and cruise missiles will fly and aircraft will fly and people will die, and yet few of us here are really able to cobble together a great explanation of why this is a good idea.”


12 posted on 09/02/2007 1:21:27 PM PDT by james500
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To: kristinn

As much respect is shown Bush whenever he appears before any of our Troops, I call BS on the accuracy of this “report.”

Targets inside Iran have been noted for decades, the Pentagon maintains “contingency plans” as a matter of everyday business.

If some LSO did indeed say this, and I seriously doubt it, especially the “we are all waiting for this administration to end” BS, I’m sure Naval Intelligence will have a field day over it.


13 posted on 09/02/2007 1:21:50 PM PDT by DakotaRed (Liberals don't rattle sabers, they wave white flags)
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To: kristinn
Pegged.


14 posted on 09/02/2007 1:21:56 PM PDT by Chuck54
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To: kristinn

Oh my gosh.


15 posted on 09/02/2007 1:23:47 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: geo40xyz

I’ll bet there are not that many LSO “Shes” over there.

Should be easy to find if the Navy wants to.


16 posted on 09/02/2007 1:23:58 PM PDT by PeteB570 (Guns, what real men want for Christmas)
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To: kristinn
Re: I have a friend who is an LSO on a carrier attack group that is planning and staging a strike group deployment into the Gulf of Hormuz. (LSO: Landing Signal Officer- she directs carrier aircraft while landing)

If this is true, finding "Her" and making sure "She" never ever takes another breath of free air during her remain lifetime should not be much of a problem...

If it where up to me, true and "She" is found guilty, I would be happy to serve as "Her" executioner!

17 posted on 09/02/2007 1:23:58 PM PDT by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: DakotaRed

This reaks of BS to me. I could be real, but certain things lead me to believe this is made up and it is written by someone with very little respect for our military.

God bless our men and women in uniform and their loved ones!!


18 posted on 09/02/2007 1:24:06 PM PDT by CCGuy (USAF (Ret.))
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To: kristinn
Bush has become something of an Emperor. He will give the command, and cruise missiles will fly and aircraft will fly and people will die,

Nothing paints the left so stupid as when it speaks.

19 posted on 09/02/2007 1:24:07 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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To: kristinn
On a related note....

Report: Pentagon Has 3-Day Plan to Knock Out Iran's Military

20 posted on 09/02/2007 1:24:45 PM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: kristinn

WOW they are actually practicing carrier landings!


21 posted on 09/02/2007 1:25:11 PM PDT by countess
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To: mdittmar

Assuming this is real, how do we go about finding out who this traitor is and reporting them? Or maybe just pass it along to Naval intelligence and see if they can find out out.


22 posted on 09/02/2007 1:25:16 PM PDT by Tears of a Clown
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To: kristinn

Well, I messed up the last reply.

She has liaison with administration officials? And those officials don’t know most Iranians don’t speak Arabic? What grade must she be?


23 posted on 09/02/2007 1:25:27 PM PDT by decimon
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To: kristinn
I believe it's the turd, Wayne Masen...he's a huge moonbat and nut. However, he was once a naval officer of some type and has sources [he says] of classified material. So to post this under a women naval officer...doesn't surprise me. He's a treasonous bassturd...


24 posted on 09/02/2007 1:25:39 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: kristinn

If they have been taking every available Tomohawk on board and out of inventory then this is news that shouldn’t be disseminated. If it is true, then they should find him or her and jail him or her.


25 posted on 09/02/2007 1:25:40 PM PDT by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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To: decimon

The poroblem is with the spelling of ‘liaison’. Most Iranisns’ first language is Farsi (or Modern Persian, as some would have it).


26 posted on 09/02/2007 1:25:40 PM PDT by SAJ
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To: kristinn

LSO’s are also pilots. Not too many navy combat pilots even these days. The odds of a female combat pilot passing out this information is pretty low. Combined with the source and its impossible. Only thing that could make it less credible is if John Edwards was the source.


27 posted on 09/02/2007 1:25:52 PM PDT by driftdiver
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To: kristinn

Pentagon ‘three-day blitz’ plan for Iran

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article2369001.ece


28 posted on 09/02/2007 1:26:12 PM PDT by Smartaleck
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To: STARWISE
Pentagon ‘three-day blitz’ plan for Iran
29 posted on 09/02/2007 1:26:37 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: countess
Sounds rather necessary, assuming they ever intend to take off for any reason.

Such a conspiracy, eh?

Sheesh.

30 posted on 09/02/2007 1:27:11 PM PDT by SAJ
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To: kristinn

The attack will begin at dawn and will occur from the west on Tuesday. The planes will come in at 4000’. When asked what color the uniforms were that they would be wearing, the LSO answered, that’s a secret (From the movie Airplane)


31 posted on 09/02/2007 1:27:26 PM PDT by richardtavor (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem in the name of the G-d of Jacob)
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To: kristinn

I hope this shows that DoD is doing a great deal more sophisticated psyops than we’ve been seeing to date.


32 posted on 09/02/2007 1:27:29 PM PDT by the Real fifi
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To: kristinn

I have to say it’s pure BS. Any Naval officer is fully aware they’d have free room and board in Leavenworth for the remainder of their life.


33 posted on 09/02/2007 1:28:17 PM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: DakotaRed

Iranians targets were on the big map in Baghdad in 2003. For some reason, nothing was done to make them stand back further.


34 posted on 09/02/2007 1:28:28 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: Vigilantcitizen; kristinn
This might be another BS moment at the kos

Or disinformation spread be an useful idiot.

The LSO sounds like a complete fabrication. "She" told the Kosmoron every lie he/she wanted to believe.

It's their fantasy. It's all "pretend"...

35 posted on 09/02/2007 1:28:39 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: SAJ
Sorry. Didn't proof. Message should read:

The problem is with the spelling of ‘liaison’. Most Iranians’ first language is Farsi (or Modern Persian, as some would have it).

36 posted on 09/02/2007 1:28:42 PM PDT by SAJ
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To: kristinn

BTTT


37 posted on 09/02/2007 1:29:00 PM PDT by Unicorn (Too many wimps around.)
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To: kristinn

I believe this is a total fabrication. Could be wrong but it feels that way to me.


38 posted on 09/02/2007 1:29:37 PM PDT by saganite (Billions and billions and billions----and that's just the NASA budget!)
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To: kristinn

“She said they were already practicing traps, FARP and FAST. (Trapping is the act of catching the tension wires when landing on the carrier, FARP is Fleet Air Combat Maneuvering Readiness Program- practice dogfighting- and FAST is Fleet Air Superiority Training).”

I call BS on this article. I wasn’t an aviator, so maybe someone with more expertise can chime in, but to my knowledge traps, FARP and FAST are routine, and not necessarily an indication of imminent combat ops. A real LSO would know that.


39 posted on 09/02/2007 1:29:40 PM PDT by LadyNavyVet
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To: Chuck54

Iran has set up torture chamber in Iraqi capital - report

40 posted on 09/02/2007 1:30:15 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: kristinn
There's a limited number of carrier in that area, only so many LSOs and out of that number, only so many split tails.

This is going to be fun.

41 posted on 09/02/2007 1:30:26 PM PDT by Doctor Raoul (The Chairman of the Iraq Veterans Against the War is a Marxist Sandinista Insurgent. Peace Out.)
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To: kristinn
Ah yes the DSM Dim stream media ... or ... Dip Shite Media

All the treason that's fit to print

42 posted on 09/02/2007 1:31:10 PM PDT by clamper1797 (Tonkin Gulf Yacht Club 72-73 ... USS Midway CVA-41 VA-93 Blue Blazers)
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To: james500

“Bush has become something of an Emperor. He will give the command, and cruise missiles will fly and aircraft will fly and people will die...”


Sounds more like Slick Willie! Just add a baby food factory.


43 posted on 09/02/2007 1:31:23 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: PJ-Comix

Bump


44 posted on 09/02/2007 1:31:33 PM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: kristinn

How can anyone take anything off KOS seriously? It’s like putting faith in something off the DU.

The Navy plans contingency strikes all the time. Just like the Army, Marines and Air Force. Just because they are planning strikes does not mean that they are going to be carried out. The whole idea behind drawing up contingency strike plans is to eliminate the planning phase time should a short fused order come down to execute a strike. Plus it gives them time to do rehearsals. Many strikes must be executed almost down to the second, especially if there are more than one sumultaneous run into the target (called deconfliction) so they have to be rehearsed over and over so the timing becomes second nature.

Nothing to see here. Show’s over. Move along folks.


45 posted on 09/02/2007 1:31:41 PM PDT by stm (Fred Thompson in 08!)
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To: kristinn
Well it can't be too hard to track down a female LSO. There can be only a handful.

I also question the authenticity of this article since I haven't heard any of these grumblings about waiting out the change in the administration. Some of the terms are strange as well. FARP hasn't been used by the fighter end of the Navy since the early 90's and I've never heard of FAST.

The military is constantly updating operational plans for all sorts of contingencies. My operational unit used to look at contingencies for the Korean Penninsula all the time. That was in the 90's and we still haven't bombed anybody in NK.

I've been flying in the Navy since 91, fighters since 94, instructing SFARP since 98.

46 posted on 09/02/2007 1:31:44 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: kristinn

If this is accurate, the lady should be shot on sight. One thing for sure though, if it is true, she doesn’t read history. Many things are done in the military that the average officer or sailor doesn’t know anything about. Many pilots during WWII were in the air before they even knew where they were going. When our bombers were sent to Iraq, the crew had no idea what the target was....their computers took over and the course was set. Once they were over Iraq, the crew was notified of the target.

The Navy will run a hundred different scenarios and practice, practice, practice. They may have just been given a problem to solve.........just in case the order came down.


47 posted on 09/02/2007 1:32:52 PM PDT by RC2
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To: Doctor Raoul

Please refrain from using the term split tails. It is highly offensive to Navy women. I usually have a thick skin, but that particular pejorative has always grated on me.


48 posted on 09/02/2007 1:33:02 PM PDT by LadyNavyVet
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To: Psycho_Bunny

If she were really in the Navy, she would realize that Bush is the CIC, the only Emperor that she will ever know. In fact, her Ass belongs to Bush—he can have her planted in a garden in Herzogovinia if he wants....and be perfectly legal.


49 posted on 09/02/2007 1:33:36 PM PDT by richardtavor (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem in the name of the G-d of Jacob)
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To: Tears of a Clown

It ain’t real...


50 posted on 09/02/2007 1:34:30 PM PDT by richardtavor (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem in the name of the G-d of Jacob)
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