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'First time dog had snapped,' says boy's mother
wfaa ^ | September 1, 2007 | BOB GREENE

Posted on 09/02/2007 8:40:18 PM PDT by stainlessbanner

DALLAS — A new Texas law went into effect at midnight Friday that could put dog owners behind bars for up to 20 years if their pet fatally attacks someone.

Just hours before earlier, a six-year-old Dallas boy was mauled to death by his family's dog.

The mother of Scott Warren said the family had had the pit bull since Scott was a baby.

Kressie Warren said Friday's attack was the first time the dog had snapped at anyone.

But, she says, with a young daughter in the house, now her only child, it will be the last.

"It's going to be difficult from now on," said Warren said.

She weeps, regretful she ever got the pit bull that took her son, Scott's, life.

"I don't want to never see another pit bull, never. Because he took a precious life."

The mauling happened just before 7 p.m. Friday night.

"We were sitting there in the room and all of the sudden the dog just jumped at him, grabbed at him," Warren said.

Her daughter was in the room with them.

"She was at the back, I was grabbing his mouth trying to get him loose but he was slinging him everywhere."

By the time they got the dog off, it was too late.

Scott eventually died at Baylor Hospital.

Six years old, he'd just finished the first week of first grade.

"I'm not going to see that little boy go back to school, I'm not going to see him play sports, graduate or anything. All because of a stupid dog," Warren said.

Warren is fortunate the attack took place yesterday and the dog was in a contained area.

Otherwise, under a new state law that went into effect today, she could have faced up to 20 years in prison.

Patricia Hughes, Warren's neighbor says, while she doesn't like the idea of having pit bulls and other dangerous breeds at home, she thinks that punishment is too harsh.

"I really think that's too severe. People have committed worse crimes and haven't served that much," she said.

Warren says she's already been given a life sentence.

"Learn from a single parent struggling to raise two children and now I'm down to one. Get rid of the dogs," she said.

Police say right now, they're considering this an accidental death, so they're not pressing charges against the mother at this time.

They say that could change depending on the outcome of their investigation in conjunction with Child Protective Services.


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Kressie Warren vows that dogs will no longer be a part of her household.

Kressie Warren clutched a photograph of her dead son.

1 posted on 09/02/2007 8:40:20 PM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: stainlessbanner

My sympathies for the family. The dog was perfectly normal etc... Just sad.


2 posted on 09/02/2007 8:47:11 PM PDT by kinoxi
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To: stainlessbanner

Tragic.......... again..... and again..... and again.


3 posted on 09/02/2007 8:47:15 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: Ditter

3,2,1.... here come the pit bull defenders.....


4 posted on 09/02/2007 8:48:23 PM PDT by Walkingfeather (u)
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To: kinoxi
My sympathies for the family. The dog was perfectly normal etc... Just sad.

Yeah. The dog was a perfectly normal pit bull.
5 posted on 09/02/2007 8:49:24 PM PDT by Old_Mil (Rudy = Hillary, Fred = Dole, Romney = Kerry, McCain = Crazy. No Thanks.)
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To: Walkingfeather
3,2,1.... here come the pit bull defenders.....

...their number depleted by two in the Lone Star state.
6 posted on 09/02/2007 8:50:05 PM PDT by Old_Mil (Rudy = Hillary, Fred = Dole, Romney = Kerry, McCain = Crazy. No Thanks.)
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To: Walkingfeather

Yeah, it’s the media blowing it out of proportion. >///sarcasm


7 posted on 09/02/2007 8:50:11 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: stainlessbanner

Another sad Pit Bull story...


8 posted on 09/02/2007 8:54:10 PM PDT by missnry (The truth will set you free ... and drive liberals Crazy!)
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To: stainlessbanner

The first time is enough.


9 posted on 09/02/2007 9:00:34 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Brian J. Marotta, 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub, (1948-2007) Rest In Peace, our FRiend)
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To: stainlessbanner
Friday's attack was the first time the dog had snapped at anyone.

The pit bull lovers here will assure everyone that a lovable family pet pit bull would never do that. Says something about credibility.

10 posted on 09/02/2007 9:01:35 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: stainlessbanner
Here's another link to the story.

Link.

In this article, the dog's owners don't sound at all like they were responsible dog owners.

Neighbors said that Scott's family had moved in only about four months ago, but that their dogs had already become a nuisance. One neighbor, Rudy Lopez, said he saw a woman beating one of the dogs a few weeks ago with a shovel after it was involved in a fight with another dog.

11 posted on 09/02/2007 9:01:53 PM PDT by SIDENET (Inventor of the 12-hour "power nap".)
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To: Old_Mil

sadly true. you can bet she heard the warnings and blew them off.


12 posted on 09/02/2007 9:02:26 PM PDT by Walkingfeather (u)
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To: Old_Mil
...their number depleted by two in the Lone Star state.

Yuk yuk. You're a funny guy.

You should take your act on the road.

(barf)

13 posted on 09/02/2007 9:03:32 PM PDT by SIDENET (Inventor of the 12-hour "power nap".)
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To: stainlessbanner
not for nothing but if I had a nickel for every time I hear "my dog don't bite"...
Every time someone tells me that I say and the next thing that the owner says is..."Wow he never did that before"....
14 posted on 09/02/2007 9:06:33 PM PDT by Gone_Postal (We are not interested in the possibilities of defeat)
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To: stainlessbanner

When a dog starts behaving purely on instinct and doesn’t listen to the master, anything can happen. There are often signs of bad behavior before a dog “snaps” completely.


15 posted on 09/02/2007 9:10:15 PM PDT by Kirkwood
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To: stainlessbanner

Even PETA wants to ban the breed.


16 posted on 09/02/2007 9:12:59 PM PDT by MHT
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To: Kirkwood
Yup, and it can be any breed, just ask the police dog handler after the dog attacked the mail man last week. He totally ignored his handlers commands and it was a German Shepherd.
17 posted on 09/02/2007 9:14:09 PM PDT by eastforker (.308 SOCOM 16, hottest brand going.2350 FPS muzzle..M.. velocity)
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To: MHT
Even PETA wants to ban the breed.

Well, that's good enough for me!

< /s>

18 posted on 09/02/2007 9:14:46 PM PDT by SIDENET (Inventor of the 12-hour "power nap".)
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To: Kirkwood; SIDENET

Beating your dog with a shovel is a sign there is a problem.


19 posted on 09/02/2007 9:14:55 PM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: stainlessbanner

I couldn’t agree more.


20 posted on 09/02/2007 9:15:42 PM PDT by SIDENET (Inventor of the 12-hour "power nap".)
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To: Gone_Postal

I get tired of hearing that, too.


21 posted on 09/02/2007 9:16:03 PM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: stainlessbanner

Well, I never used a shovell but I have a Jack Russell that has been thrown up against the wall before to get his attention. He’s about 4 YO now and have not seen a flare up in over a year. Mind you, he has never been aggresive to people, just other dogs in the pecking order.


22 posted on 09/02/2007 9:18:33 PM PDT by eastforker (.308 SOCOM 16, hottest brand going.2350 FPS muzzle..M.. velocity)
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To: kinoxi
>>>"I'm not going to see that little boy go back to school, I'm not going to see him play sports, graduate or anything. All because of a stupid dog," Warren said.

I assume this mental midget of a Mother was totally unaware that pit bulls have a reputation for sudden unreasonable attacks, especially on children and small dogs.

People that trust these animals are like those that repeat the same action over and over expecting a different result. Idiots by definition.

23 posted on 09/02/2007 9:19:27 PM PDT by HardStarboard (Take No Prisoners - We're Out of Qurans)
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To: SIDENET

Beating a dog with a shovel? No, nothing wrong there, with the dog owner or the dog. Sheesh.


24 posted on 09/02/2007 9:20:56 PM PDT by Shortstop7
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To: HardStarboard
People that trust these animals are like those that repeat the same action over and over expecting a different result. Idiots by definition.


25 posted on 09/02/2007 9:28:22 PM PDT by SIDENET (Inventor of the 12-hour "power nap".)
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To: stainlessbanner
Otherwise, under a new state law that went into effect today, she could have faced up to 20 years in prison.

"I really think that's too severe. People have committed worse crimes and haven't served that much," she (Patricia Hughes, Warren's neighbor) said.

Warren says she's already been given a life sentence.

In this case the parent herself is suffering because it was her dog that killed her child. She reacted immediately to try to stop the dog. This wasn't a matter of irresponsible pet ownership where she let the dog run the neighborhood.

The state law is not too harsh for people whose dogs kill others. They are not going to have to live with the consequences of their dog's actions like this lady is.

26 posted on 09/02/2007 9:31:06 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: SIDENET

Can’t speak for the whole breed...but my little APBT was a sweetheart...but lord did she hate cats! She was worthless as a watchdog....wouldn’t even bark >:(


27 posted on 09/02/2007 9:31:48 PM PDT by chasio649
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To: metmom; SIDENET; Walkingfeather
This wasn't a matter of irresponsible pet ownership where she let the dog run the neighborhood.

Oops, gotta take that back. I just read your posts. I meant more that the attack on her son wasn't because she let the dog loose, but it looked like some kind of incident was going to happen, if not with her son, with someone else.

28 posted on 09/02/2007 9:34:46 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: stainlessbanner

That dog should have been put down by now. I hope other owners of pit bulls read about this tragic killing of a precious child, and get rid of their dog.


29 posted on 09/02/2007 9:35:01 PM PDT by Paperdoll ( Vote for Duncan Hunter in the Primaries for America's sake!)
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To: metmom
This wasn't a matter of irresponsible pet ownership where she let the dog run the neighborhood.

Is it responsible pet ownership if you keep a dangerous pet from running the neighborhood but allow it access to your children at home?
30 posted on 09/02/2007 9:38:59 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: stainlessbanner

Ban the breed. Pit Bulls serve very little good purpose. Want a “safe” dog? Get a Yorkie.


31 posted on 09/02/2007 9:40:42 PM PDT by Thumper1960 (Unleash the Dogs of War as a Minority, or perish as a party.)
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To: SIDENET

Oh yeah this old bit again....

I am sure we could drum up some cute pictures of hitler holding babies and helping old women across the street too would that prove anything? This is such an old schtick I am suprised people still use it, I know if works for the more emotionaly driven, but not much use here.

By the way I work with dogs on a Search and Rescue team, I know dogs save lives, I also know dogs can maim and kill.


32 posted on 09/02/2007 9:43:09 PM PDT by Walkingfeather (u)
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To: Gone_Postal

My son got attacked by a dog, a german shepard/chow type mix.
Exact words out of the owner’s mouth “He’s never done that before.” The dog knew my son, and they’d played before, but it just snapped I guess. The dog went straight for his neck, and he has the scars to prove it.
That said, the dog did let go, and I believe a pit bull would have ripped my son’s throat out.


33 posted on 09/02/2007 9:46:03 PM PDT by chae (R.I.P. Eddie Guerrero He lied, he cheated, he stole my heart)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

No. I see your point. Somehow what I’m trying to get across just isn’t coming out the way I intended.

Lots of pit attacks happen because the dogs are allowed to run loose. In this case, the attack happened without any direct irresponsible (letting them run loose) type action.

I agree that it sounds like she was ignoring the warning signs of the dog becoming dangerous. The fact that a neighbor saw the dog being beat with a shovel by someone else should have alerted the lady.

From another thread: “ One neighbor, Rudy Lopez, said he saw a woman beating one of the dogs a few weeks ago with a shovel after it was involved in a fight with another dog. “

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1889965/posts


34 posted on 09/02/2007 9:49:51 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: chae

So what did the owner do about it?


35 posted on 09/02/2007 9:51:11 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: stainlessbanner
"I really think that's too severe. People have committed worse crimes and haven't served that much," she said.

Actually this new law brings the punishment in line with any other criminally negligent manslaughter charge in Texas, two to twenty.

36 posted on 09/02/2007 9:51:13 PM PDT by Between the Lines (I am very cognizant of my fallibility, sinfulness, and other limitations.)
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Friday's attack was the first time the dog had snapped at anyone.

They are always sweethearts until they kill or maim.

37 posted on 09/02/2007 9:52:13 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: metmom

The owner had a small infant and runs a hair salon out of her home, so the dog was put down.
Come to find out later it had been growling at the baby recently.


38 posted on 09/02/2007 9:55:58 PM PDT by chae (R.I.P. Eddie Guerrero He lied, he cheated, he stole my heart)
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To: eastforker

I got bitten by a dalmatian as a kid. That thing was F’n nasty.


39 posted on 09/02/2007 9:57:31 PM PDT by miliantnutcase
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To: stainlessbanner

Someone please tell me if this is wrong but the way I see it is that Pit Bulls are less likely to bite or attack than other breeds, but when they *do* bite or attack, they are just so powerful and determined that they are more likely to cause major damage or even death, whereas other breeds generally don’t have the power or determination to inflict major damage.

Is that not the gist of it?


40 posted on 09/02/2007 10:03:45 PM PDT by Miztiki (My vote will be for the best candidate, but my heart and soul longs for God's Kingdom)
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To: Walkingfeather
Oh yeah this old bit again....

There's no "bit" to it.

Please notice that it was a reply to a specific post.

I am sure we could drum up some cute pictures of hitler holding babies and helping old women across the street too would that prove anything?

Congrats. You accuse me of "schtick, yet you drag HITLER in to this discussion.

41 posted on 09/02/2007 10:05:35 PM PDT by SIDENET (Inventor of the 12-hour "power nap".)
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To: stainlessbanner

Home invasion by pit bulls:

http://www.king5.com/topstories/stories/NW_082107WAB_dog_mauling_SW.583497bb.html


42 posted on 09/02/2007 10:21:03 PM PDT by zipper
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To: SIDENET

I take it you’re biased towards these canines that were regressively bred.


43 posted on 09/02/2007 10:22:03 PM PDT by kinoxi
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To: SIDENET

good night, kiss fluffy for me...


44 posted on 09/02/2007 10:36:29 PM PDT by Walkingfeather (u)
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To: kinoxi
I take it you’re biased towards these canines that were regressively bred.

"Regressively"? They don't look much like Canis lupus to me.

If you mean; "Do you like pit bulls?", the answer is yes. I like the American Pit Bull Terrier.

45 posted on 09/02/2007 10:43:53 PM PDT by SIDENET (Inventor of the 12-hour "power nap".)
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To: Walkingfeather

Nighty night.


46 posted on 09/02/2007 10:44:42 PM PDT by SIDENET (Inventor of the 12-hour "power nap".)
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To: SIDENET

It bears little resemblance (the Pit Bull Terrier) to what is being discussed here.


47 posted on 09/02/2007 10:48:25 PM PDT by kinoxi
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To: kinoxi
It bears little resemblance (the Pit Bull Terrier) to what is being discussed here.

I believe that is what is being discussed here, unless you're referring to what is known as a "bully-style" pit bull which seems to be a hybrid of pit bull, American Bulldog, and possibly Bullmastiff dogs.

48 posted on 09/02/2007 10:54:54 PM PDT by SIDENET (Inventor of the 12-hour "power nap".)
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To: SIDENET
There is no name for this ‘breed’ of overly aggressive dogs. They most closely resemble Pits. The name does not matter.
49 posted on 09/02/2007 10:56:00 PM PDT by kinoxi
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To: SIDENET
You believe that is not what they are breeding in the inner cities for aggression. You believe that is not what they are breeding in the boondocks to fight. Not yours. Never. Keep it away from me.
50 posted on 09/02/2007 10:59:19 PM PDT by kinoxi
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