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Americans Are World's Most Productive Workers, U.N. Report Finds
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Posted on 09/03/2007 2:25:41 AM PDT by fabrizio

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To: Tafts Ghost

“We weren’t negotiating, ...”

So twisting history is your game? You support evil. That defines you.


41 posted on 09/03/2007 1:29:49 PM PDT by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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To: Tafts Ghost

More twisted history. We were negotiating with Japan. They attacked during that process. It is evil and you defend that conduct.


43 posted on 09/03/2007 2:14:29 PM PDT by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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LOL, try any decent history of WWII. The Jap’s didn’t even bother drafting a declaration of war until AFTER their treacherous attack. Their ambassador was still accredited to the US and had been, right up the last, involved in negotiations. On December 1st, Foreign Minister Togo cabled Washington Ambassador Nomura to continue negotiations “to prevent the U.S. from becoming unduly suspicious.”

It was a treacherous, sneak attack by a barbarous foe. You defend that evil. Yuck.


45 posted on 09/03/2007 2:56:28 PM PDT by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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"The huge gap in productivity and wealth is cause for great concern,"

In the same sense that grandma walking home from the bank after cashing her social security check is a cause for concern to Joe the Mugger.

47 posted on 09/03/2007 3:16:00 PM PDT by denydenydeny (Expel the priest and you don't inaugurate the age of reason, you get the witch doctor--Paul Johnson)
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To: Tafts Ghost

LOL, buy a decent history book. What were they negotiating? The sanctions against them placed on them for their unprovoked aggression against what is now Vietnam. They were barbarous and treacherous and you defend that infamy. For shame.


48 posted on 09/03/2007 3:25:41 PM PDT by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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To: Tafts Ghost

Mr. Vice President, Mr. Speaker, Members of the Senate, and of the House of Representatives:

Yesterday, December 7th, 1941 — a date which will live in infamy — the United States of America was suddenly and deliberately attacked by naval and air forces of the Empire of Japan.

The United States was at peace with that nation and, at the solicitation of Japan, was still in conversation with its government and its emperor looking toward the maintenance of peace in the Pacific.

Indeed, one hour after Japanese air squadrons had commenced bombing in the American island of Oahu, the Japanese ambassador to the United States and his colleague delivered to our Secretary of State a formal reply to a recent American message. And while this reply stated that it seemed useless to continue the existing diplomatic negotiations, it contained no threat or hint of war or of armed attack.

It will be recorded that the distance of Hawaii from Japan makes it obvious that the attack was deliberately planned many days or even weeks ago. During the intervening time, the Japanese government has deliberately sought to deceive the United States by false statements and expressions of hope for continued peace.

The attack yesterday on the Hawaiian islands has caused severe damage to American naval and military forces. I regret to tell you that very many American lives have been lost. In addition, American ships have been reported torpedoed on the high seas between San Francisco and Honolulu.

Yesterday, the Japanese government also launched an attack against Malaya.

Last night, Japanese forces attacked Hong Kong.

Last night, Japanese forces attacked Guam.

Last night, Japanese forces attacked the Philippine Islands.

Last night, the Japanese attacked Wake Island.

And this morning, the Japanese attacked Midway Island.

Japan has, therefore, undertaken a surprise offensive extending throughout the Pacific area. The facts of yesterday and today speak for themselves. The people of the United States have already formed their opinions and well understand the implications to the very life and safety of our nation.

As commander in chief of the Army and Navy, I have directed that all measures be taken for our defense. But always will our whole nation remember the character of the onslaught against us.

No matter how long it may take us to overcome this premeditated invasion, the American people in their righteous might will win through to absolute victory.

I believe that I interpret the will of the Congress and of the people when I assert that we will not only defend ourselves to the uttermost, but will make it very certain that this form of treachery shall never again endanger us.

Hostilities exist. There is no blinking at the fact that our people, our territory, and our interests are in grave danger.

With confidence in our armed forces, with the unbounding determination of our people, we will gain the inevitable triumph — so help us God.

I ask that the Congress declare that since the unprovoked and dastardly attack by Japan on Sunday, December 7th, 1941, a state of war has existed between the United States and the Japanese empire.


49 posted on 09/03/2007 3:29:11 PM PDT by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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To: Tafts Ghost
Your hero Ronald Reagan was a "free traitor."

You also forget that automation has been more responsible for the decline of jobs for the lunchpail set than "outsourcing." Industrial employment has declined in CHINA over the past 20 years.

50 posted on 09/03/2007 3:31:31 PM PDT by Clemenza (Rudy Giuliani, like Pesto and Seattle, belongs in the scrap heap of '90s Culture)
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To: Tafts Ghost

Try reading it. Unless English is not a skill you possess, or unless you insist that FDR lied to Congress, in the address itself he explain the facts of the situation. Your apologia for evil is again noted. Ditto your movement of your claims and ignorance of the facts.


52 posted on 09/03/2007 3:41:00 PM PDT by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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I get it, you seem to have a grotesque lack of knowledge of the run up to Pearl Harbor, just as you are clueless about matters economic. You want FDR to be the bad guy, not the aggressors who had raped Nanking, were raping Indochina and thanks to their uncivilized behavior lost access to the US credit markets and the international oil markets. While negotiating with the US, essentially under a truce flag, they attacked infamously and treacherously. You seem to feel that was a natural and expected outcome of our policies. You align yourself with evil. Yuck.


54 posted on 09/03/2007 3:55:51 PM PDT by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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To: fabrizio

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55 posted on 09/03/2007 4:00:47 PM PDT by EverOnward
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To: Tafts Ghost
"...it’s time to become America Firsters."

Wow, I missed that.

America First staunchly opposed the convoying of ships, the Atlantic Charter, and the placing of economic pressure on Japan.
So you would have allowed Japan free rape all over Asia? Or is your use of the phrase "America Firsters" not indicative of your support of the organization of the same name?
56 posted on 09/03/2007 4:03:21 PM PDT by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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57 posted on 09/03/2007 4:10:22 PM PDT by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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58 posted on 09/03/2007 4:10:41 PM PDT by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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American workers stay longer in the office, at the factory or on the farm than their counterparts in Europe and most other rich nations,

Well, that pretty much explains things. We are frickin' killing ourselves paying taxes while he rest of the world goes on vacation.

59 posted on 09/03/2007 7:25:41 PM PDT by Barnacle (Hunter 2008)
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So you imply that this erroneously or misleadingly skews the results.
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I don’t imply it, I state it as fact. Google no more distorts this data than does Bill Gate's net worth distort the average of per-capita wealth, as Gate's wealth of about $53 billion exceeds the GDP of a number of nations. To get a full picture, we really need to see the distribution table along with the rest of the rankings. Norway’s results are probably also skewed by a few special situations.

Norway illustrates another aspect of these types of comparisons: there is a big difference between per-employee productivity and the standard of living after taking the tax burden and other local factors in to account.

For example, a person on a even a modest income can afford their own modest home in the part of Missouri that I live in, while such a pay-scale would not pay for much at all in Manhattan.

Indeed, on August 27 the Heritage Foundation released a background report, “How Poor Are America’s Poor? Examining the “Plague” of Poverty in America” [1] and it points out from just released Census Data that 43% of people classified as “poor” in the US own their own homes, and “[t]he average poor American has more living space than the average individual living in Paris, London, Vienna, Athens, and other cities throughout Europe. (These comparisons are to the average citizens in foreign countries, not to those classified as poor.)”

The wages in some countries are high because they have to be in order to pay the taxes.

But to your latent concern for “blue-collar jobs”, in truth we cannot un-ring the bell so to speak. We cannot stop peasants in China, or Pakistan from going to school and learning a skill that they are willing to practice for far less than someone in the west thinks they deserve. The only answer is for people in the US to create more value. There are a variety of factors in play here which are far beyond the scope of this topic.

Needless to say, Google is a delightful example of innovation, and of the benefits of having the environment that can nurture a business idea, nurture that includes access to venture capital and a culture that is well practiced at how to maximize the potential of a good idea. At the time, Google could not have started, let alone grown into the heavy (information) industry it has become in anywhere else in the world except California. Even today, there is more startup and VC activity in California than occurs on entire continents elsewhere, but the jobs that are created are far more white collar than blue and that is the way it is. We cannot un-ring that bell.

[1] How Poor Are America’s Poor? Examining the “Plague” of Poverty in America by Robert E. Rector Backgrounder #2064
http://www.heritage.org/Research/Welfare/bg2064.cfm

60 posted on 09/03/2007 8:00:52 PM PDT by theBuckwheat
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