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Giuliani 47% Clinton 44%; Clinton 48% Thompson 44%
Rasmussen Reports ^ | August 30, 2007

Posted on 09/03/2007 9:21:17 AM PDT by Clintonfatigued

Survey of 800 Likely Voters August 27-28, 2007

Rudy Giuliani (R) vs. Hillary Clinton (D)

Rudy Giuliani (R) 47%

Hillary Clinton (D) 44%

Fred Thompson (R) vs. Hillary Clinton (D)

Fred Thompson (R) 44%

Hillary Clinton (D) 48%

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Giuliani 47% Clinton 44%; Clinton 48% Thompson 44% Friday, August 31, 2007 Advertisment Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani leads New York Senator Hillary Clinton 47% to 44% in the latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey. A month ago, Giuliani enjoyed a seven-point edge.

In six polls conducted between November 2006 and April of this year, Giuliani was ahead of Clinton each time with margins ranging from two to nine points. The match-up between the frontrunners tightened from May to early July. During that stretch, the two candidates were within a point of each other four times. Clinton led by a single point in a July 10 survey, the only time all year she’s topped Giuliani in a national poll.

However, the last two polls show Giuliani ahead once again.

The latest poll also shows Clinton leading former Tennessee Senator Fred Thompson 48% to 44%. Thompson, who will formally announce his candidacy next Thursday, has been closely matched with Clinton in six polls conducted since March. The candidates have been within one point of each other in three of the six polls while Clinton has enjoyed a 3 or 4 point lead in the others.

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; 2008polls; elections; fredthompson; polls
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1 posted on 09/03/2007 9:21:19 AM PDT by Clintonfatigued
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To: Clintonfatigued

There was an article in the NY Post about the support RG has from the religious groups and how it was surprisingly strong


2 posted on 09/03/2007 9:24:04 AM PDT by italianquaker (Obamas "spiritual advisor" , ." On the Sunday after the attacks, Dr. Wright blamed America.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Given that the margin of error is going to be about 4%, it looks like both matchups show statistical ties.


3 posted on 09/03/2007 9:24:26 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: PhiKapMom; JulieRNR21; fieldmarshaldj; LdSentinal; Cincinna; Senator Goldwater; ClaireSolt; ...

Fred Thompson hasn’t even announced and he’s running almost even. That’s very impressive on his part. When he enters, he may pull ahead, in spite of the political climate.

Rudy Giuliani also continues to show strength.


4 posted on 09/03/2007 9:24:45 AM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Illegal aliens commit crimes that Americans won't commit)
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To: PAR35; mmanager; W04Man; hershey; vietvet67

Here’s a related thread.


5 posted on 09/03/2007 9:27:23 AM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Illegal aliens commit crimes that Americans won't commit)
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To: Clintonfatigued

OK, liberals don’t like the idea of having to deal with Fred Thompson and are praying it’s Giuliani the GOP candidate...


6 posted on 09/03/2007 9:28:08 AM PDT by fabrizio (God bless President Bush.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Interestingly, someone who is relatively unknown and not even an announced candidate is within striking distance of HRC.


7 posted on 09/03/2007 9:28:52 AM PDT by GovernmentIsTheProblem (The GOP is "Whig"ing out.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Considering Clinton’s negatives are close to 50%, I find these poll results to be incredible.


8 posted on 09/03/2007 9:29:11 AM PDT by Bob J (Rightalk.com...a conservative alternative to NPR!)
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To: Clintonfatigued

9 posted on 09/03/2007 9:29:15 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Clintonfatigued

This election is going to come down to the wire, just like the last two.

But I think we have the advantage and will take the W against Hildabeast, just like the last two times.

The liberal tears that will be shed from losing 3 elections in a row will raise the sea level more than global warming could ever do. :)


10 posted on 09/03/2007 9:30:40 AM PDT by Tears of a Clown
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To: Clintonfatigued

Well isn’t that nice. Now can we have a state by state analysis please, since presidents are elected by the states individually, not collectively.


11 posted on 09/03/2007 9:31:40 AM PDT by cotton1706
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To: GovernmentIsTheProblem

“Interestingly, someone who is relatively unknown and not even an announced candidate is within striking distance of HRC.”

The man is appealing from many standpoints.

I didn’t like his support for CFR but that is the only fault I find.

I simply cannot vote for a liberal Julie-Annie. If he represents what the Republican party wants, then I am without a party.


12 posted on 09/03/2007 9:32:09 AM PDT by EEDUDE
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To: Clintonfatigued

Fred Thompson (R) vs. Hillary Clinton (D)

Fred Thompson (R) 44%

Hillary Clinton (D) 48%

Since Thompson is not even a declared candidate, this does not look good for Clinton.


13 posted on 09/03/2007 9:32:24 AM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Rasmussen is marinated in bullsh•t...


14 posted on 09/03/2007 9:32:49 AM PDT by johnny7 ("But that one on the far left... he had crazy eyes")
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To: italianquaker
There was an article in the NY Post about the support RG has from the religious groups and how it was surprisingly strong

Watch in the coming months how that transfers to Thompson. Julie will undergo a reverse metamorphosis -- from a butterfly to a worm.

15 posted on 09/03/2007 9:32:54 AM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Don’t worry, the Beast will get a third party candidate (Michael Blomberg or some such) to tip the balance toward her.


16 posted on 09/03/2007 9:34:18 AM PDT by fhayek
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To: johnny7

These results are pretty much on par with every single poll taken in the last couple months.

Hillary just isn’t that popular...


17 posted on 09/03/2007 9:35:05 AM PDT by Tears of a Clown
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To: Tears of a Clown

With a loss the dems will go from on top of the world to the “facing extinction” and “naval gazing” charges of the media. Especially they are considered strong favorites in the generic ballot.


18 posted on 09/03/2007 9:37:29 AM PDT by Norman Bates
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To: Tears of a Clown

“The liberal tears that will be shed from losing 3 elections in a row.” .............. “Losing” in liberal speak is “stolen”. They never lose elections, they always have them stolen. When their candidate wins an election (i.e.1992) with only 39% of the votes then it’s considered an overwhelming victory.


19 posted on 09/03/2007 9:38:23 AM PDT by Bringbackthedraft
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To: Tears of a Clown; Clintonfatigued; Grampa Dave; devolve; ntnychik; dixiechick2000; gonzo
The liberal tears that will be shed from losing 3 elections in a row
will raise the sea level more than global warming could ever do.


20 posted on 09/03/2007 9:38:49 AM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: fhayek

That’s the plan. You can count it.

Personally, I think it’s Ron Paul.


21 posted on 09/03/2007 9:38:56 AM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
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To: cotton1706

That is true. But no one has ever lost an election with such a wide discrepancy in the popular vote. Giuliani would win with these numbers - somehow - if he is the nominee. Clearly Fred is within striking range too.


22 posted on 09/03/2007 9:40:00 AM PDT by Norman Bates
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To: Tears of a Clown

All of the republican front running candidates are head and shoulders above any of the democrats. My preference is Romney at this point, but I could vote for any of them.

Hillary Clinton... Give me a brake. The woman is a bitter, cold, psychologically impaired bitch. You thought Stalin was bad?

Obama... What the hell has he done? Where the hell did he come from?

John Edwards...? Geoffrey Fieger is one of his biggest fans. That says it all.

Dennis Kucinich.... No comment necessary.

Conservatives need to unite and win in 2008. Remember, run like you’re 10 points behind.


23 posted on 09/03/2007 9:41:43 AM PDT by TruthFactor (The Death of Nations... pornography, homosexuality, abortion)
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To: GovernmentIsTheProblem
Interestingly, someone who is relatively unknown and not even an announced candidate is within striking distance of HRC.

Bozo the Clown is within striking distance of HRC. When the pedal hits the metal and human Americans actually go to vote in November 2008, they will not vote for Hillary Clinton for President of the United States. If she is the rat nominee, that election will be the most astonishing GOP landslide in history. No matter WHO the GOP candidate is.

24 posted on 09/03/2007 9:42:09 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: fhayek
Don’t worry, the Beast will get a third party candidate

Unless it's a credible, conservative Independent... it won't help her. Bloomberg would take votes from her.

25 posted on 09/03/2007 9:44:39 AM PDT by johnny7 ("But that one on the far left... he had crazy eyes")
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To: cotton1706

I suspect that at this point Thompson and Giuliani get about the same electoral count in state by state polling. Most of the south and the west is going to be rather monolithic in opposing Hillary. Rudy gains a few points by not getting wiped as bad in New York, Pennsylvania, and California. Don’t get me wrong, I am sure Rudy is losing those states also, but not by as much.


26 posted on 09/03/2007 9:46:09 AM PDT by Ingtar (The LDS problem that Romney is facing is not his religion, but his Lacking Decisive Stands.)
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To: johnny7

Actually Rasmussen is themost accurate pollster.


27 posted on 09/03/2007 9:46:35 AM PDT by golfisnr1 (Democrats are like roaches - hard to get rid of.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Her highest number is 48%, and there is no way it can go above that. Too many people hate her. The other thing to consider is turnout. Her presence in the race guarantees massive Republican turnout and low Dem turnout. The only way she can possibly win is if there is a strong center-right third party candidate.


28 posted on 09/03/2007 9:46:55 AM PDT by lesser_satan (Fred Thompson '08)
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To: EEDUDE

“I simply cannot vote for a liberal Julie-Annie. If he represents what the Republican party wants, then I am without a party.”

Fine then! If your going to do that then I’m going to vow not to vote for Fred, President Hillary Clinton be damned. Making my point is more important than what happens to this country (and those poor darn military people over there in Iraq).


29 posted on 09/03/2007 9:47:02 AM PDT by willk
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To: Clintonfatigued

At this stage, it is all pure name recognition. Once the Thompson campaign engages and gets their man in front of the people on a consistent basis, I suspect these numbers will change.

I have to admit, I relish the thought of a Fred and Hillary debate. Her nasally screech against his down home drawl and “common folk” speech patterns. The contrast will be delicious.


30 posted on 09/03/2007 9:47:30 AM PDT by Buckeye Battle Cry (Life is too short to go through it clenched of sphincter and void of humor - it's okay to laugh.)
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To: Lancey Howard

“If she is the rat nominee, that election will be the most astonishing GOP landslide in history. No matter WHO the GOP candidate is.”

I wish you were right. However, what I would be concerned about is Ohio and Florida. Those are the only two places that everything being equal, Hillary can literally steal.

I think the RATS believed that they could steal Ohio in 2004 and something went seriously wrong. It is the only way I could explain Bush being up by 118,000 votes and CNN not giving him the state while Bush was down by 11,000 in Wisconsin and they already gave it to Kerry.

The RATS are going to steal something. Question is what? My thought is Richardson as veep and they go after Virginia and New Mexico.


31 posted on 09/03/2007 9:53:06 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (When O'Reilly comes out from under his desk, tell him to give me a call. Hunter/Thompson in 08.)
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To: Clintonfatigued
I know Scott Rasmussen is about the most accurate pollster around, but that still may be like being the world's smartest dumb person.

I just hope Fred doesn't have too many more "Miss Teenage South Carolina" momments like he did at the VFW. At least he'll get unlimited retakes for his campaign ads.

32 posted on 09/03/2007 10:00:29 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("We have met the enemy and he is us." -Pogo)
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To: Clintonfatigued

The point has already been made, Thompson is withing striking distance of HRC and this is without a formal announcement. I look forward to the coming days of the campaign when debates and townhall meetings start up. FDT will bury HRC she will be a footnote in history, the First Lady who became a senator and nothing else.


33 posted on 09/03/2007 10:00:34 AM PDT by YdontUleaveLibs (Reason is out to lunch. How may I help you?)
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To: cotton1706
"Now can we have a state by state analysis please, since presidents are elected by the states individually, not collectively."

The Libs' agenda is to go to popular elections.

34 posted on 09/03/2007 10:02:38 AM PDT by Redbob
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To: Sooth2222
I know Scott Rasmussen is about the most accurate pollster around, but that still may be like being the world's smartest dumb person.

Now that's the line of the day! LOL!

Too bad you followed with the other silliness.

35 posted on 09/03/2007 10:04:22 AM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm (John Cox 2008: Because Duncan Hunter just isn't obscure enough for me!)
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To: edcoil
"Since Thompson is not even a declared candidate, this does not look good for Clinton."

Exactly . I would suspect that there are many people who won't commit to someone who isn't in the race . If and when Thompson gets in , the whole dynamic of this Republican race will change dramatically .

There is a giant void not currently being filled , and Thompson appears to be the only one who can fill it, and go on to win the general .

36 posted on 09/03/2007 10:12:57 AM PDT by Neu Pragmatist ( Who's " Bot " are you ?)
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To: fhayek

Bloomie entering would be a Godsend to us.

No conservative or independent would vote for him, in fact they distain him, and that comes straight out of the pocket of (hillary!)

Your thinking is like saying that Nader would be bad for Bush.

Now if Bloomie was a real independent liber type like Perot, that would be one thing, but he is not. Far from it.


37 posted on 09/03/2007 10:15:19 AM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: Ingtar

Exactly why (hillary!) will tag someone who can deliver one of those SW states, ala Richardson.

Of course, if she gets Ohio, the game is damn near lost and that is very possible.

The South is red. The NE & California are blue.


38 posted on 09/03/2007 10:18:47 AM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: Clintonfatigued

Go, go Rudy !


39 posted on 09/03/2007 10:22:13 AM PDT by drzz
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To: EQAndyBuzz
Hillary doesn’t have a rat’s chance of taking Florida.

Actually, no dem did the last time either, but the MSM is not admitting that Florida is no longer a swing state anymore.

The gap here is getting larger, but Ohio may be trending towards blue.

As far as talk about landslides against (hillary!) that is whistling past the graveyard.

In the game, she has most of the advantages in 08, her foul personality aside.

40 posted on 09/03/2007 10:23:08 AM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: PAR35
Given that the margin of error is going to be about 4%, it looks like both matchups show statistical ties

That'd translate to an easy 'rat win once the dead cast their votes.

41 posted on 09/03/2007 10:28:05 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte
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To: golfisnr1
Maybe, but polls change. Lets just see how it goes AFTER Thompson is a CANDIDATE!

Bump! Go Fred Go!


PRESIDENTIAL MATERIAL.... for sure!


42 posted on 09/03/2007 10:29:50 AM PDT by W04Man (I'm Now With Fred http://Vets4Fred.net)
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To: Bob J
Negatives only matter to Republican candidates. It's the old cut-off-your-nose-to-spite-your-face gambit. You see it already, on FR and other places. "I won't vote for that RINO SOB, I'll stay home first", or "That so-and-so isn't a 'true conservative', so I'm gonna show them by not voting for them", or "That lousy Senator X didn't do what I told him to do, so I'm gonna take my ball and go home, I don't care if Hillary gets elected and destroys the Republic, I'm gonna 'send those old-boy Republicans a message'", blah blah blah.

Meanwhile, negatives or not, the 'Rats will come out in droves and vote for Hillary!, and the press will slobber and fawn all over her, enough to drag other sheeple along. I'm telling you, if we keep up the crap like we've been doing, fighting each other rather than the real enemy, we're going to get walloped, worse than in '06.

43 posted on 09/03/2007 10:41:45 AM PDT by chimera
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To: Clintonfatigued

the most important part of all these numbers is the piaps losing!!!!


44 posted on 09/03/2007 10:44:48 AM PDT by nyyankeefan
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To: willk

Well, we all have to do what we have to do.


45 posted on 09/03/2007 10:49:45 AM PDT by EEDUDE
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To: willk

Not surprising that you think he would be just making a show of not voting, and not based on principle. Any one who supports Giuliani isn’t a serious conservative, but is just playing the political party game.


46 posted on 09/03/2007 10:53:40 AM PDT by kenth
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To: Sans-Culotte
That'd translate to an easy 'rat win once the dead cast their votes.

Valid point.

47 posted on 09/03/2007 10:53:50 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: chimera

Agreed. Are your comments directed at this site for shoving off the Rudy supporters?

BTW - If Hillary wins the nom, more anti Hillary types who normally might have stayed home (because voting is too hard) will get to the polls than lazy dims getting off their duffs and shlepping down the street.

Hillary as the dem candidate is a God send.


48 posted on 09/03/2007 10:55:19 AM PDT by Bob J (Rightalk.com...a conservative alternative to NPR!)
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To: kenth

I’m a serious conservative. I’ll support Rudy if he gets the nomiation.


49 posted on 09/03/2007 10:59:41 AM PDT by wolfinator
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To: Clintonfatigued

Wow, with only 14 months to go before the election, Fred might as well concede now. No chance he could make up 4% in that short a time. </sarc>


50 posted on 09/03/2007 11:00:56 AM PDT by roballen
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