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If people are getting money for making predictions they are incapable of really making, shouldn't they be prosecuted for fraud?

I think the whole idea of global warming was made up by people who want well paying government jobs, but don't really have any ability. They get paid with our tax money to scare us. Government funds for weather should go to trying to control it rather than making scary predictions.

1 posted on 09/03/2007 1:27:44 PM PDT by kathsua
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Basic References:

Lawrence Solomon's "The Deniers" (a series of articles on the view of scientists who have been labelled "Global Warming Deniers"):

Other References:

Antarctic Temperature Trend 1982-2004:


This map (left) shows key areas of Antarctica, including the vast East Antarctic ice sheet. The image on the right shows which areas of the continent's ice are thickening (coloured yellow and red) and thinning (coloured blue). © (Left)British Antarctic Survey, (Right)Science

2 posted on 09/03/2007 1:32:26 PM PDT by sourcery (fRed Dawn: Wednesday, 5 November 2008!)
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To: kathsua

Algore and his hard of thinking sheeple have perpetrated this alarmist myth long enough. It’s time for real science to put all this junk science garbage to rest once and for all.


3 posted on 09/03/2007 1:32:44 PM PDT by stm (Fred Thompson in 08!)
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What if we all lowered our carbon emissions to a level Gore found acceptable for several years, and....THE AVERAGE GLOBAL TEMPERATURE DIDN’T DECREASE. That would be proof that man-made global warming is all a hoax. Sometimes the best way to convince a fool he is wrong is to let him have his way...


4 posted on 09/03/2007 1:37:35 PM PDT by G8 Diplomat (It's campaign season. Let's rumble!)
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Science Fiction? I wonder what part of global warming they are calling science.


5 posted on 09/03/2007 1:38:35 PM PDT by FreePaul
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They tried making "predictions" using conditions from the past i.e. they knew what the weather/ temps were. It didn't work. The "predictions" were wrong. Doesn't that tell them anything?

I predict that global warming will occur every year, in the northern hemisphere, from around mid June to mid September. Now where's my check?

8 posted on 09/03/2007 1:43:25 PM PDT by Pajamajan (Pray for president Bush. Pray for our troops. Pray for congress, Pray for our nation.)
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I think the whole idea of global warming was made up by people who want well paying government jobs, but don't really have any ability.

No, these guys do have ability. They mostly got good grades from very good schools and are now in search of a career. What do you go for with a graduate degree in weather? TV weatherman? Airline forecaster? DoD weather specialist? All of the above and more, but when the positions are filled and the attrition rate is nil what can you do? A good scare will bring grant money in like flies to honey.

That's the ticket!

11 posted on 09/03/2007 2:03:44 PM PDT by Wingy
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al gore lied, billions were inconvenienced.


12 posted on 09/03/2007 2:20:16 PM PDT by Disciplinemisanthropy (...and that, friends, is what grinds my gears.)
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As one whom has made a fine living for 35 years by studying global climate change, I can assure you that it occurs, rigth before global cooling and right afterwards. Sea level, as we know it, was 200’ below us in the past, and also 200’ above us. Since the continents were not in the their present positions, it is hard to acertain what the real effect was. One thing I do know, however, is if you spent the entire GDP of the planet, you would not be able to change a thing.


19 posted on 09/03/2007 2:49:29 PM PDT by richardtavor (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem in the name of the G-d of Jacob)
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The earth has been WARMING since the last Ice Age..


20 posted on 09/03/2007 2:50:50 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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21 posted on 09/03/2007 3:09:31 PM PDT by xcamel (FDT/2008 -- talk about it >> irc://irc.freenode.net/fredthompson)
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I think he got one of the arguments wrong, and in a strange way.

That is, it has been discovered that plants open their skin pores to inhale CO2. But when they do so, they lose water. If there is more CO2 in the air, they they don’t need to open their skin pores as widely, so don’t lose as much water.

Therefore, they don’t need to uptake as much water through their roots, and more water stays in the soil. In turn, this means that with more CO2 in the air, typically *dry* soil can support more plants on the same water. This means de-desertification, and more plant growth, and in turn, more CO2 consumption.

One last factor, the question of “Are plants made up of more soil, or more air?”, has been answered. Plants are mostly “air”, made up of mostly CO2 converted to sugar which feeds the growing plant. This means that with just a few trace minerals from the soil, and a *given* amount of water for each plant, the vast majority of the plant is made from CO2.

So a lot more plants means a lot more CO2 used. Not “flooding”, however, because more plants will grow in a dry soil until they have used the available water.


23 posted on 09/03/2007 4:04:41 PM PDT by Popocatapetl
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Cold air is necessary to freeze water droplets into ice and to freeze more water to that ice to form large hail stones. Cold air plays a major role in tornado formation. The biggest tornadoes typically come in front of strong cold fronts.

An actual greenhouse effect would be warming the upper atmosphere at a greater degree than it warms the ground level so this would mean less divergence of temperature which would mean weaker storms. Any goofball local TV weatherman would know this so why doesn't NASA?

24 posted on 09/03/2007 4:22:22 PM PDT by Perchant
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Ping for later reading.


25 posted on 09/03/2007 4:35:45 PM PDT by Tanniker Smith (I didn't know she was a Liberal when I married her.)
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